91st Academy Awards - Discussion thread - RACISM IS OVER, THANKS GREEN BOOK

[rukaio101]

I've not seen Vice (and don't really have any interest in doing so tbh), but it does strike me as amusing that it somehow managed to get more Oscar noms that The Big Short did in 2015, in spite of that being the Adam McKay Oscar vehicle that people actually liked.

 

(Although, I suppose in 2015, nearly half the BP nominees weren't made up of movies that people disliked, so that might've played a part)

[HouseOfTheSun]

I genuinely think Bohemian Rhapsody if the favorite over Roma. The academy is still relatively prejudices against what Roma and Netflix represent. Plus Queen is a pop culture icon. 

[Alli]

3 minutes ago, narniadis said:

Roma shouldnt be qualified since its a Netflix production but I know that doesnt sit well. If you don't have a reportable gross then in a sense you didnt release the film. 

 

 

THIS!!!!   How the heck is Roma eligible? where is the box office for the film?  The Academy really screwed up this Netflix thing.

[narniadis]

Im just ready for this season to be behind us. 2018 was such a meh and weird year quality and content wise. 

[That One Girl]

I saw Roma in theaters.  They released it.  It’s eligible.  Discussion over

[narniadis]

1 minute ago, Alli said:

THIS!!!!   How the heck is Roma eligible? where is the box office for the film?  The Academy really screwed up this Netflix thing.

Its not a netflix thing as much as its who the director is. 

[narniadis]

Just now, That One Guy said:

I saw Roma in theaters.  They released it.  It’s eligible.  Discussion over

I know it had that quasi "play by the rules" minimum art house release. However, it still shouldnt qualify. If Netflix wants to play with the big boys, it needs to play like a big boy and not just a want to be. 

[Alli]

It would be a disgrace if Roma wins Best Picture! I have not seen it yet, but how is Netflix different than other TV like HBO?

Edited January 22, 2019 by Alli

[grim22]

10 minutes ago, narniadis said:

With the last minute whispers of Cold War making it to Best Picture, one has to assume it was probably #9 just without enough first place support.... 

The support for Quiet Place just seemed to fizzle completely. 

 

I really think they should go back to a stable 10 noms but what do I know. 

First Man and Poppins also lost a lot of steam once they were released. First Man had probably the steepest fall from being a contender despite really good reviews.

[DAR]

I don't think Roma should win Best Picture, but it won't be a disgrace.   It won't be a disgrace whatever wins, they're just awards.

[That One Girl]

Just now, narniadis said:

I know it had that quasi "play by the rules" minimum art house release. However, it still shouldnt qualify. If Netflix wants to play with the big boys, it needs to play like a big boy and not just a want to be. 

 

Not sure what this is supposed to mean.  It’s a movie, and as such, it should qualify to compete in awards season.  Why discriminate just because it’s Netflix?

 

Just now, Alli said:

It would be a disgrace if Roma wins Best Picture!

 

christ no

[CoolioD1]

1 minute ago, narniadis said:

I know it had that quasi "play by the rules" minimum art house release. However, it still shouldnt qualify. If Netflix wants to play with the big boys, it needs to play like a big boy and not just a want to be. 

They’re clearly “playing with the big boys” right now just fine. But I’m sure they appreciate the advice.

[Avatree]

4 minutes ago, Slambros said:

 

Hello to you! Glad you're doing well!

 

For TSNGO, it was all because of the timing of the release. You may have noticed that the film was first released as an event; it wasn't released in theaters for a full week--not in 2018. Plus, the film definitely came out too late to make it onto the 15-film short list; the film's first theatrical release was about eight days after that announcement.

 

But it is still significant that Warner Bros. went through with the release of the film regardless of awards, just out of the passion they have for Peter Jackson's project. That, and its place in film history, is an award in and of itself.

Thanks for that info. 

 

And yeah, I assumed it wouldn't get released in America, was very happily surprised when not only did it get a US release but it did really well. 

I guess it is state-funded propaganda so no reason why it needs to do well at box office or get wide recognition outside of the UK, but it's still nice to see. 

When I saw it, Peter Jackson said that he did the same for 100 hours of other footage as a favour to the Imperial War Museum.

 

Can't wait to see what other filmmakers take Jacksons technology and go crazy with it.

[Alli]

1 minute ago, DAR said:

I don't think Roma should win Best Picture, but it won't be a disgrace.   It won't be a disgrace whatever wins, they're just awards.

yeah, but it would create a dangerous precedent

[That One Girl]

Just now, Alli said:

yeah, but it would create a dangerous precedent

 

Awarding a Mexican film from an acclaimed Mexican director is, like, the exact opposite of a “dangerous precedent”

[Carlangonz]

Poor BCoop. He put so much time  and effort campaigning for Director just to  get snubbed. Now he should go all the way as actor and take back all the love he lost to Bale and Malek.

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, grim22 said:

First Man and Poppins also lost a lot of steam once they were released. First Man had probably the steepest fall from being a contender despite really good reviews.

Vice would have been in the same position had it opened in October tbh. 

[Alli]

Just now, That One Guy said:

 

Awarding a Mexican film from an acclaimed Mexican director is, like, the exact opposite of a “dangerous precedent”

i don't care who's directin it. i was talking about the Netflix thing

[CoolioD1]

Btw that Cold War best director nomination... they’ve added so many foreign auteurs to that branch the last couple years. I think expect to see more nominations like that in the future.

[Avatree]

Was it Roma that Netflix told theaters that they could only show it if they showed it in 35mm ?

 

 

Really, for demanding such high standards, Netflix is the big boy. The other studios should be playing on Netflix's level.