91st Academy Awards - Discussion thread - RACISM IS OVER, THANKS GREEN BOOK

[Barnack]

15 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

He's cultured and intelligent, and yet somehow without the ignorant white guy he can't do shit. Can't eat fried chicken without his help, can't know who Aretha Franklin is without his help, can't have a gay fling without having to get rescued by him, can't even make his own decision about whether to play or not in the end without him. Now ain't that convenient? 

Aren't those simply real anecdotes that happened to them for the most part ?

 

https://deadline.com/2019/01/green-book-tapes-doc-shirley-tony-lip-vallelonga-actual-audio-mahershala-ali-viggo-mortensen-1202541392/

 

Never ate chicken with is hands, the YMCA, etc...

 

If you do not make the fish out of the waters element of those kind of movies (that in part why The Upside is not has good has the Intouchable, the rich being a new rich instead of old money) strong enough, it risk to end up quite flat, same for the buddy cops comedy.

 

[Lordmandeep]

Most minorities dont care if a film has a white lead or a minority lead.

 

You guys group all minorities as Twitter spaming SJW types 🤣

Edited February 25, 2019 by Lordmandeep

[The Futurist]

1 hour ago, CoolioD1 said:

 

These people are so full of resentment.

I pity them.

I really do.

[That One Girl]

Just now, The Futurist said:

These people are so full of resentment.

I pity them.

I really do.

 

But you, the person with 36,000 posts bitching about this sort of stuff, aren’t full of any resentment whatsoever.

[The Futurist]

The interpretations I am reading of Greenbook are really hilarious.

Again, resentment will lead you nowhere but please, continue this shit show.

[CoolioD1]

7 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

Again, resentment will lead you nowhere

great for you to announce you've turned over a new leaf. what with this sentiment directly contradicting 98% of your posts.

[Barnack]

To be fair I am certain The Futurist will fully agree all is anger, constant triggering and bitching and everything he do online will not lead him anywhere and was just a big waist of time.

Edited February 25, 2019 by Barnack

[dxmatrixdt]

Green Book was an excellent movie that we all wanted to see rise to the very top even in the awards circuit.

But it isn't the movie we wanted to see breaking history against 4 other nominations.

 

Edited September 22, 2019 by belligerent talking robot

[Theprophet]

1 hour ago, Slave Animal Rights said:

Green Book was an excellent movie that we all wanted to see rise to the very top even in the awards circuit.

But it isn't the movie we wanted to see breaking history against 4 other nominations.

 

The one we want to win is usually the other film that stands out more (and breaks more), then the one that gets the most thumbs up

 

Unfortunately Green Book winning could add resentment and fuel racism, as opposed to it loosing and helping to end racism

Films dont add or end racism. They are just films

[dxmatrixdt]

1 hour ago, Theprophet said:

Films dont add or end racism. They are just films

not everybody agrees

[Macleod]

2 hours ago, Theprophet said:

Films dont add or end racism. They are just films

If you don't believe in the power of movies, then why are you even here?  I guess just for Box Office?

[Theprophet]

1 hour ago, Slave Animal Rights said:

not everybody agrees

I think if someone needs a movie to tell them what's wrong and what's right then something's gone wrong with the upbringing of that person. There are certain films however that make me more aware of certain situations, an example of that would be Spotlight. It's just crazy to think a movie like Green Book would fuel racism. Sure it pokes fun at certain stereotypes but that doesn't mean people will go around offering fried chicken to every black man they come across.

 

37 minutes ago, Macleod said:

If you don't believe in the power of movies, then why are you even here?  I guess just for Box Office?

I love movies and have always had a strange fascination with box office, writing in forums has never been my thing though, I'm a newbie 

[dxmatrixdt]

 

Dear Hollywood, this is my assessment of the 1989 movie review term.

Spoiler

Here is most of what is in the top 200 movies, after i took the liberty to go through the trailers.  I spent about 4 hours on YouTube with the trailers and rated them in order of how i want to see them.  (for comparison, 2018-2019 would be almost all 7's)

I bolded the ones that were in the top 30 at the 1989 box office.  I would have thought the majority of the romantic comedies was a test for hate , as they made all the money, and looked like I would have wanted to cry from their reign over the masses.  

Spoiler

Dead Poets Society, Parenthood, Ghostbusters 2, Indiana Jones 3, Batman, 
Christmas Vacation, Pet Semetary, The Abyss
A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child
Halloween 5, Akira
Always, License to Kill, 
Friday the 13th Part VIII

7 - Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - 52.2
7 - Lethal Weapon 2 - 147.3
7 - Do the Right Thing - 27.5
7 - Born on the Fourth of July - 70.0
7 - Roger and Me - 6.7
7 - Fat Man and Little Boy - 3.6
7 - Red Scorpion - 4.2
7 - The Phantom of the Opera - 4.0
7 - Communion - 1.9
7 - The Fly II - 20.0
7 - Shocker - 16.6
7 - Back to the Future II - 118.5
7 - Millennium - 5.8
7 - Glory - 26.8
7 - Deepstar Six - 8.1
7 - 976-Evil - 3.0
7 - Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure - 40.5
7 - Relentless - 7.0
7 - Fright Night II - 3.0
7 - Stepfather 2 - 1.5
7 - Say Anything - 20.8
7 - Tango & Cash - 63.4
7 - Leviathan - 15.7
7 - The Terror Within - 0.9
7 - Harlem Nights - 60.9
7 - The Little Mermaid - 84.4
7 - Dead Calm - 7.8
7 - Lean on Me - 31.9
7 - Cyborg - 10.2
7 - Earth Girls Are Easy - 3.9
7 - Henry V - 10.2
7 - For All Mankind - 0.8
7 - Heart of Dixie - 1.1
7 - A Dry White Season - 3.8
7 - Drugstore Cowboy - 4.7

6 - Rooftops - 2.0
6 - My Left Foot - 14.7
6 - Miss Firecracker - 1.9
6 - Crimes and Misdemeanors - 18.3
6 - Casualties of War - 18.7
6 - Field of Dreams - 64.4
6 - Renegades - 9.0
6 - Gleaming the Cube - 2.8
6 - Best of the Best - 1.7
6 - The Horror Show - 1.7
6 - How I Got Into College - 1.6
6 - Farewell to the King - 2.4
6 - The Little Thief - 1.1
6 - Music Box - 6.3
6 - Rude Awakening - 3.2
6 - The Wizard - 14.3
6 - Black Rain - 46.2
6 - Sea of Love - 58.6
6 - Lock Up - 22.1
6 - Dead Bang - 8.1
6 - Sex, Lies, and Videotape - 24.7
6 - New York Stories - 10.8
6 - Enemies: A Love Story - 7.8
6 - Dream a Little Dream - 5.6
6 - Physical Evidence - 3.6
6 - Scandal - 8.8
6 - The Mighty Quinn - 4.6
6 - She-Devil - 15.4
6 - Pink Cadillac - 12.1
6 - The Package - 10.6
6 - Johnny Handsome - 7.2
6 - Crack House - 0.9
6 - UHF - 6.2
6 - Heathers - 1.1
6 - The January Man - 4.6
6 - Apartment Zero - 1.3
6 - Let it Ride - 5.0
6 - Kickboxer - 14.7
6 - Bloodfist - 1.8
6 - American Ninja 3: Blood Hunt - 0.9
6 - Camille Claudel - 3.3
6 - Valmont - 1.1
6 - Chocolat - 2.3
6 - Romero - 1.3
6 - Who's Harry Crumb? - 11.0
6 - Young Einstein - 11.5
6 - Immediate Family - 5.9
6 - We're No Angels - 10.6
6 - Scenes from the Class Struggle in Beverly Hills - 2.2
6 - Vampire's Kiss - 0.7
6 - Parents - 0.9
6 - Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects - 3.4
6 - Speed Zone - 3.1
6 - The Adventures of Baron Munchausen - 8.1
6 - All Dogs Go to Heaven - 27.1
5 - Prancer - 18.6
5 - Uncle Buck - 66.8
5 - Next of Kin - 15.9
5 - In Country - 3.5
5 - Road House - 30.1
5 - Steel Magnolias - 83.8
5 - The War of the Roses - 86.9
5 - When Harry Met Sally... - 92.8
5 - Major League - 49.8
5 - Driving Miss Daisy - 106.6
5 - See No Evil, Hear No Evil - 46.9
5 - Family Business - 12.1
5 - Getting it Right - 1.0
5 - The Karate Kid Part III - 39.0
5 - Slaves of New York - 0.5
5 - Little Monsters - 0.8
5 - Miracle Mile - 1.1
5 - Little Vera - 1.3
5 - The Adventures of Milo and Otis - 3.0
5 - War Party - 0.7
5 - Jacknife - 2.1
5 - Chances Are - 16.3
5 - The Dream Team - 28.9
5 - Weekend at Bernies - 30.2
5 - Tap - 9.1
5 - Erik the Viking - 1.9
5 - Sing - 2.3
5 - Shag: The Movie - 7.0
5 - Welcome Home - 1.0
5 - Police Academy 6: City Under Siege - 11.6
5 - Loverboy - 4.0
5 - Gross Anatomy - 11.6
5 - Cheetah - 8.2
5 - The 'Burbs - 36.6
5 - Fletch Lives - 35.2
5 - Criminal Law - 10.0
5 - Old Gringo - 3.6
5 - The Girl in a Swing - 0.7
5 - Winter People - 2.0
5 - Troop Beverly Hills - 8.5
5 - Turner & Hooch - 71.1
5 - An Innocent Man - 20.0
5 - Cookie - 1.9
5 - Honey, I Shrunk the Kids - 130.7
5 - Look Who's Talking - 140.1 
5 - True Believer - 8.7
5 - True Love - 1.4
5 - Great Balls of Fire! - 13.7
5 - Mystery Train - 1.5
5 - Second Sight - 5.4
5 - Wired - 1.1
5 - The Toxic Avenger Part II - 0.8
5 - Shirley Valentine - 6.1
5 - Disorganized Crime - 7.7
5 - Listen to Me - 4.3
5 - The Fabulous Baker Boys - 18.4
5 - Skin Deep - 19.7
5 - Blaze - 19.1
5 - She's Out of Control - 12.1
5 - Worth Winning - 3.7
5 - See You in the Morning - 4.8
5 - Staying Together - 4.3
5 - Breaking In - 1.9
5 - Dad - 22.1
5 - No Holds Barred - 16.1
4 - The Bear - 31.8
4 - Three Fugitives - 40.6
4 - Queen of Hearts - 1.2
4 - Cousins - 22.0
4 - Her Alibi - 18.7
4 - K-9 - 43.2

 

and the list submitted

Spoiler

1 - Halloween

2 - Nightmare on Elm Street

3 - Friday the 13th

4 - The Abyss

5 - Batman

6 - Indiana Jones     

7 - License to Kill

(8 - Star Trek 5)

(9 - Lethal Weapon 2)

10 - Do the Right Thing

11 - Roger and Me

12 - Dead Poet's Society

13 - Born on the Fourth of July

14 - Leviathan

15 - Glory

16 - 976-Evil

17 - Phantom of the Opera

18 - Pet Semetary

(19 - The Fly 2)

20 - Christmas Vacation

21 - Communion

22 - Casualties of War

23 - Always

24 - Fat Man and Little Boy

25 - Deepstar Six

26 - Ghostbusters 2

27 - Millenium

28 - Parenthood

29 - The Punisher

30 - Field of Dreams

31 - Shocker

32 - Dead Calm

33 - Cyborg

 

 

i'm still not literate with movie history from 80s to early 90s.  it should take a few weeks to cover each year 

Edited November 27, 2019 by belligerent talking robot

[Theprophet]

On 2/25/2019 at 6:01 PM, Rebeccas said:

Anthony McCarten is literally a best actor whisperer at this point. I guess we should pencil in The Pope as our winner next year.

 

Green Book's win is going to age very poorly. Pretty much every film in the line up except Vice and Bohemian Rhapsody will be better remembered. Its has the lowest metacritic score of any Best Picture winner since Crash (both have 69!).

I fail to see how a movie like Bohemian Rhapsody which earned 850m through the power of amazing WOM will be less remembered in 10 years than the likes of The Favourite and Blackkklansman which really haven't made much of an impact anywhere. Judging from social media Green Book's win has been better received than last years winner. The people who dislike it are just a lot louder but clearly part of the few and not the many.

 

Also metacritic scores doesn't mean much, look at BR, the critics got that very wrong

Edited February 27, 2019 by Theprophet

[Rebeccas]

1 hour ago, Theprophet said:

I fail to see how a movie like Bohemian Rhapsody which earned 850m through the power of amazing WOM will be less remembered in 10 years than the likes of The Favourite and Blackkklansman which really haven't made much of an impact anywhere. Judging from social media Green Book's win has been better received than last years winner. The people who dislike it are just a lot louder but clearly part of the few and not the many.

 

Also metacritic scores doesn't mean much, look at BR, the critics got that very wrong

The Favourite will be showing up on Best of Decade lists, BR will not..

[Theprophet]

48 minutes ago, Rebeccas said:

The Favourite will be showing up on Best of Decade lists, BR will not..

And BR will be on everyone's DVD shelves

Edited February 27, 2019 by Theprophet

[SLAM!]

2 minutes ago, Theprophet said:

And BR will be on everyone's DVD shelves 

 

[Jake Gittes]

1 hour ago, Theprophet said:

And BR will be on everyone's DVD shelves

On the shelves of everyone who still buys DVDs? Sure I guess.

[Theprophet]

18 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:

On the shelves of everyone who still buys DVDs? Sure I guess.

Lets not pretend BR wont be more popular than The favourite in 10 years time. Its a huge crowd pleaser 

[filmlover]

I suspect BoRap's legacy will be similar to the original Mamma Mia!'s where everybody thinks of it as more of a playlist than an actual movie. No joke any time that film's come up since 2008 it's been that they love the music and they love Meryl.