Top 30 films of 1989 (baumer's favourite year)IMDB is the source...if it's 1989 on IMDb it qualifies...Aug 25th is deadline

[tawasal]

2 hours ago, captainwondyful said:

I don't know his thoughts, but my thoughts are it was released in 1988 

Like baumer said it was released in the US box office in 1989.

[Jake Gittes]

9 minutes ago, tawasal said:

Like baumer said it was released in the US box office in 1989.

we were using imdb to go by year of premiere/first release, not american release.

[Plain Old Tele]

This is why IMDB is trash.  

 

edit: I mean, it’s not trash-trash, but it doesn’t have enough curation by people who know what they’re doing. HEATHERS is listed as having a 1988 release in Italy, but the “release” was at MIFED, which is literally a film market for international buyers/sellers/distributors. It’s not even a standard film festival. To equate that with an actual release seems insane to me. 

Edited August 22, 2019 by Plain Old Tele

[baumer]

Well I saw Heather's at the theatre in 1989. Listing it as a 1988 movie is just kind of silly.

[baumer]

And I'm making an executive decision LOL, Heather's is obviously qualifying for 1989.

[cannastop]

1 hour ago, Plain Old Tele said:

This is why IMDB is trash.  

 

edit: I mean, it’s not trash-trash, but it doesn’t have enough curation by people who know what they’re doing. HEATHERS is listed as having a 1988 release in Italy, but the “release” was at MIFED, which is literally a film market for international buyers/sellers/distributors. It’s not even a standard film festival. To equate that with an actual release seems insane to me. 

Good catch!

[cannastop]

9 minutes ago, baumer said:

Well I saw Heather's at the theatre in 1989. Listing it as a 1988 movie is just kind of silly.

If I run a 1988 list, I'm giving Heathers an extra chance there because I think a lot of people just checked IMDB and concluded Heathers shouldn't be eligible.

[dxmatrixdt]

9 hours ago, 2010s Painkiller Race said:

what time is this due?  i'm going to get started watching about 30 selections today.  i'm going to try to hand it in as late as possible.

about to start up Communion 1989.  it's a trip all these movies are there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_(1989_film)

[Plain Old Tele]

COMMUNION is pretty good.

[tawasal]

3 hours ago, cannastop said:

If I run a 1988 list, I'm giving Heathers an extra chance there because I think a lot of people just checked IMDB and concluded Heathers shouldn't be eligible.

But everyone should also check BOM, if they are unsure of when a movie was released. They should use both sources. 

[cannastop]

Just now, tawasal said:

But everyone should also check BOM, if they are unsure of when a movie was released. They should use both sources. 

Well I don't know about that. Maybe it should be rated by when it had a major release in its home country.

[tawasal]

5 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:

we were using imdb to go by year of premiere/first release, not american release.

I didn't know. I thought we were able to use both sources for release date. 

[tawasal]

Just now, cannastop said:

Well I don't know about that. Maybe it should be rated by when it had a major release in its home country.

Of course.

A movie like say The Intouchables was released in france on 2nd of November 2011, but had US box office release of the 25th of May 2012. 

 

So should that movie count for both years or just 2011 where it was released in its home country? 

[cannastop]

1 minute ago, tawasal said:

Of course.

A movie like say The Intouchables was released in france on 2nd of November 2011, but had US box office release of the 25th of May 2012. 

 

So should that movie count for both years or just 2011 where it was released in its home country? 

If it was disqualified for either year, the person who makes a list should make sure that it's qualified for at least one list.

[dxmatrixdt]

On 8/9/2019 at 6:25 PM, 2010s Painkiller Race said:

Here is most of what is in the top 200 movies, after i took the liberty to go through the trailers.  I spent about 4 hours on YouTube with the trailers and rated them in order of how i want to see them.  (for comparison, 2018-2019 would be almost all 7's)

I bolded the ones that were in the top 30 at the 1989 box office.  I would have thought the majority of the romantic comedies was a test for hate , as they made all the money, and looked like I would have wanted to cry from their reign over the masses.  

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Dead Poets Society, Parenthood, Ghostbusters 2, Indiana Jones 3, Batman, 
Christmas Vacation, Pet Semetary, The Abyss
A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child
Halloween 5, Akira
Always, License to Kill, 
Friday the 13th Part VIII

7 - Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - 52.2
7 - Lethal Weapon 2 - 147.3
7 - Do the Right Thing - 27.5
7 - Born on the Fourth of July - 70.0
7 - Roger and Me - 6.7
7 - Fat Man and Little Boy - 3.6
7 - Red Scorpion - 4.2
7 - The Phantom of the Opera - 4.0
7 - Communion - 1.9
7 - The Fly II - 20.0
7 - Shocker - 16.6
7 - Back to the Future II - 118.5
7 - Millennium - 5.8
7 - Glory - 26.8
7 - Deepstar Six - 8.1
7 - 976-Evil - 3.0
7 - Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure - 40.5
7 - Relentless - 7.0
7 - Fright Night II - 3.0
7 - Stepfather 2 - 1.5
7 - Say Anything - 20.8
7 - Tango & Cash - 63.4
7 - Leviathan - 15.7
7 - The Terror Within - 0.9
7 - Harlem Nights - 60.9
7 - The Little Mermaid - 84.4
7 - Dead Calm - 7.8
7 - Lean on Me - 31.9
7 - Cyborg - 10.2
7 - Earth Girls Are Easy - 3.9
7 - Henry V - 10.2
7 - For All Mankind - 0.8
7 - Heart of Dixie - 1.1
7 - A Dry White Season - 3.8
7 - Drugstore Cowboy - 4.7

6 - Rooftops - 2.0
6 - My Left Foot - 14.7
6 - Miss Firecracker - 1.9
6 - Crimes and Misdemeanors - 18.3
6 - Casualties of War - 18.7
6 - Field of Dreams - 64.4
6 - Renegades - 9.0
6 - Gleaming the Cube - 2.8
6 - Best of the Best - 1.7
6 - The Horror Show - 1.7
6 - How I Got Into College - 1.6
6 - Farewell to the King - 2.4
6 - The Little Thief - 1.1
6 - Music Box - 6.3
6 - Rude Awakening - 3.2
6 - The Wizard - 14.3
6 - Black Rain - 46.2
6 - Sea of Love - 58.6
6 - Lock Up - 22.1
6 - Dead Bang - 8.1
6 - Sex, Lies, and Videotape - 24.7
6 - New York Stories - 10.8
6 - Enemies: A Love Story - 7.8
6 - Dream a Little Dream - 5.6
6 - Physical Evidence - 3.6
6 - Scandal - 8.8
6 - The Mighty Quinn - 4.6
6 - She-Devil - 15.4
6 - Pink Cadillac - 12.1
6 - The Package - 10.6
6 - Johnny Handsome - 7.2
6 - Crack House - 0.9
6 - UHF - 6.2
6 - Heathers - 1.1
6 - The January Man - 4.6
6 - Apartment Zero - 1.3
6 - Let it Ride - 5.0
6 - Kickboxer - 14.7
6 - Bloodfist - 1.8
6 - American Ninja 3: Blood Hunt - 0.9
6 - Camille Claudel - 3.3
6 - Valmont - 1.1
6 - Chocolat - 2.3
6 - Romero - 1.3
6 - Who's Harry Crumb? - 11.0
6 - Young Einstein - 11.5
6 - Immediate Family - 5.9
6 - We're No Angels - 10.6
6 - Scenes from the Class Struggle in Beverly Hills - 2.2
6 - Vampire's Kiss - 0.7
6 - Parents - 0.9
6 - Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects - 3.4
6 - Speed Zone - 3.1
6 - The Adventures of Baron Munchausen - 8.1
6 - All Dogs Go to Heaven - 27.1
5 - Prancer - 18.6
5 - Uncle Buck - 66.8
5 - Next of Kin - 15.9
5 - In Country - 3.5
5 - Road House - 30.1
5 - Steel Magnolias - 83.8
5 - The War of the Roses - 86.9
5 - When Harry Met Sally... - 92.8
5 - Major League - 49.8
5 - Driving Miss Daisy - 106.6
5 - See No Evil, Hear No Evil - 46.9
5 - Family Business - 12.1
5 - Getting it Right - 1.0
5 - The Karate Kid Part III - 39.0
5 - Slaves of New York - 0.5
5 - Little Monsters - 0.8
5 - Miracle Mile - 1.1
5 - Little Vera - 1.3
5 - The Adventures of Milo and Otis - 3.0
5 - War Party - 0.7
5 - Jacknife - 2.1
5 - Chances Are - 16.3
5 - The Dream Team - 28.9
5 - Weekend at Bernies - 30.2
5 - Tap - 9.1
5 - Erik the Viking - 1.9
5 - Sing - 2.3
5 - Shag: The Movie - 7.0
5 - Welcome Home - 1.0
5 - Police Academy 6: City Under Siege - 11.6
5 - Loverboy - 4.0
5 - Gross Anatomy - 11.6
5 - Cheetah - 8.2
5 - The 'Burbs - 36.6
5 - Fletch Lives - 35.2
5 - Criminal Law - 10.0
5 - Old Gringo - 3.6
5 - The Girl in a Swing - 0.7
5 - Winter People - 2.0
5 - Troop Beverly Hills - 8.5
5 - Turner & Hooch - 71.1
5 - An Innocent Man - 20.0
5 - Cookie - 1.9
5 - Honey, I Shrunk the Kids - 130.7
5 - Look Who's Talking - 140.1 
5 - True Believer - 8.7
5 - True Love - 1.4
5 - Great Balls of Fire! - 13.7
5 - Mystery Train - 1.5
5 - Second Sight - 5.4
5 - Wired - 1.1
5 - The Toxic Avenger Part II - 0.8
5 - Shirley Valentine - 6.1
5 - Disorganized Crime - 7.7
5 - Listen to Me - 4.3
5 - The Fabulous Baker Boys - 18.4
5 - Skin Deep - 19.7
5 - Blaze - 19.1
5 - She's Out of Control - 12.1
5 - Worth Winning - 3.7
5 - See You in the Morning - 4.8
5 - Staying Together - 4.3
5 - Breaking In - 1.9
5 - Dad - 22.1
5 - No Holds Barred - 16.1
4 - The Bear - 31.8
4 - Three Fugitives - 40.6
4 - Queen of Hearts - 1.2
4 - Cousins - 22.0
4 - Her Alibi - 18.7
4 - K-9 - 43.2
 

Communion is at a B-/C+ right now

I got Akira at the median with 85% with the rest of these suckers to outscore it.

96 - Indiana Jones

95 - Batman

93 - Halloween 5

92 - Nightmare on Elm Street 5

88 - Friday the 13th 8 

88 - The Abyss

86 - License to Kill

85 - Pet Semetary

85 - Akira

84 - Dead Poets Society

83 - Christmas Vacation

78 - Always

77 - Parenthood

75 - Ghostbusters 2

[Jake Gittes]

16 minutes ago, tawasal said:

Of course.

A movie like say The Intouchables was released in france on 2nd of November 2011, but had US box office release of the 25th of May 2012. 

 

So should that movie count for both years or just 2011 where it was released in its home country? 

For me it depends on whether that list is done contemporaneously or years later. If the former, it makes sense to count it as a 2012 movie because only the French would've had an opportunity to see it earlier. But if we're doing a retrospective and going years back, we should revert to the year it first premiered anywhere. And especially when we go back 20-30 years, when a lot of major films didn't have commercial US releases - it's much easier to just stick with a single source. But this Heathers thing is not a hill I'm gonna die on.

[Plain Old Tele]

36 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

For me it depends on whether that list is done contemporaneously or years later. If the former, it makes sense to count it as a 2012 movie because only the French would've had an opportunity to see it earlier. But if we're doing a retrospective and going years back, we should revert to the year it first premiered anywhere. And especially when we go back 20-30 years, when a lot of major films didn't have commercial US releases - it's much easier to just stick with a single source. But this Heathers thing is not a hill I'm gonna die on.

 

This is very sensible. What gets really wacky are films that were either banned or unavailable in other countries for years. Like, what should ANDREI RUBLYEV's release date be?

[Jake Gittes]

3 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

 

This is very sensible. What gets really wacky are films that were either banned or unavailable in other countries for years. Like, what should ANDREI RUBLYEV's release date be?

1966. Today it isn't ours or the film's problem what distribution problems it had half a century ago. 

[baumer]

Well this is what I am here for guys. If we run into some minor problems like this then feel free to come and talk to me. I know the deadline is pretty much just around the corner but I feel very comfortable in saying that Heather's is eligible because it is listed as a 1989 film in the US on the Internet movie database

[cannastop]

7 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

 

This is very sensible. What gets really wacky are films that were either banned or unavailable in other countries for years. Like, what should ANDREI RUBLYEV's release date be?

Hey Limelight won an Oscar for Charlie Chaplin in the 1970s.

I will probably not allow Limelight on my list of 1970s movies though.