Firepower Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, a2k said: Joker OS > SW9 OS by possibly 100? Both don't have China I think it's a big possibility. TROS is destined to drop overseas, they care less and less about Star Wars. Edited October 23, 2019 by Firepower 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 has it passed 500M OS yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ 95 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Valonqar said: has it passed 500M OS yet? Of course, in tuesday morning it should already passed it. Last Sunday it makes 491m. Possibly after Wednesday it will be around 515-520m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkKnightOfSteel Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 For what is worth, by Sunday this will be the #1 title of the decade in Greece and among the highest grossing films of all time in the market when all is said and done.By now it had earned more than 5M. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, RJ 95 said: Of course, in tuesday morning it should already passed it. Last Sunday it makes 491m. Possibly after Wednesday it will be around 515-520m. Nice! @TheDarkKnightOfSteel Wow, Greece has good taste! Edited October 23, 2019 by Valonqar 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, a2k said: Joker OS > SW9 OS by possibly 100? Both don't have China Wait....tros dont have china? How can disney mess thing up ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, martin said: Wait....tros dont have china? How can disney mess thing up ? Yes, it is being released there. It is just they do not care about Star Wars and it will make very low numbers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, martin said: Wait....tros dont have china? How can disney mess thing up ? Technically they have China, but actually they don't have it because chinese hate Star Wars and it won't make a penny there again. There's no reason to release it there at all, they won't even cover print/distribution. Edited October 23, 2019 by Firepower 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ 95 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) So I wonder how it only drop 38% last week despite Japan and Brazil still going strong, then if you look Joker drop in Europe it's still amazing in 2nd weekend. Italy 39%, Portugal 21%, Netherlands 28%, Norway 33%, Finland 21%, UK 44%, France 32%, Switzerland 9%, Turkey 47%, Greece 38%, Russia 55%, Ukraine 48%, Slovakia 36%, Czech Republic 17%, Bulgaria 46%, Romania 29%, Poland 30%, Hungary 33%, and Germany 16%. I mean only Turkey, Ukraine, Russia and Bulgaria drop above 45%. No wonder it can still hold 38% despite bad drops in most parts of Asia and South America. Edited October 23, 2019 by RJ 95 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, RJ 95 said: So I wonder how it only drop 38% last week despite Japan and Brazil still going strong, then if you look Joker drop in Europe it's still amazing in 2nd weekend. Italy 39%, Portugal 21%, Netherlands 28%, Norway 33%, Finland 21%, UK 44%, France 32%, Switzerland 9%, Turkey 47%, Greece 38%, Russia 55%, Ukraine 48%, Slovakia 36%, Czech Republic 17%, Bulgaria 46%, Romania 29%, Poland 30%, Hungary 33%, and Germany 16%. I mean only Turkey, Ukraine, Russia and Bulgaria drop above 45%. No wonder it can still hold 38% despite bad drops in most parts of Asia and South America. Also no big released next week,so hoping for a better hold this weekend.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevil19 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, martin said: Also no big released next week,so hoping for a better hold this weekend.... Dark Fate releasing in some markets. Even if it's not big, it's taking away screens. Reckon a 45% drop or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 This feels like a low end estimate for OS in the article 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, grim22 said: This feels like a low end estimate for OS in the article Home Entertainment & TV Revenue Domestic Home Entertainment 75M International Home Entertainment 71M Domestic Free TV 25M Domestic Pay TV 35M International TV 124M Not sure why is TV deal estimate is quite bigger than significantly bigger 2018 movies say the 400m+/ 630M outside China Jurassic World: https://deadline.com/2019/03/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-raptorous-revenue-results-2018-most-valuable-blockbuster-tournament-1202583316/ 184M for Joker vs 164M for Jurassic World 2 & Aquaman, 170M for Incredible 2/Black Panther. First year with a reverse in term or going back up in home ent revenues by theatrical dollar could be coming up at deadline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUndertaker Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Barnack said: Home Entertainment & TV Revenue Domestic Home Entertainment 75M International Home Entertainment 71M Domestic Free TV 25M Domestic Pay TV 35M International TV 124M Not sure why is TV deal estimate is quite bigger than significantly bigger 2018 movies say the 400m+/ 630M outside China Jurassic World: https://deadline.com/2019/03/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-raptorous-revenue-results-2018-most-valuable-blockbuster-tournament-1202583316/ 184M for Joker vs 164M for Jurassic World 2 & Aquaman, 170M for Incredible 2/Black Panther. First year with a reverse in term or going back up in home ent revenues by theatrical dollar could be coming up at deadline. They say WB is better than most at the home entertainment deals. We'll when they do an actual breakdown. It's weird that they did this one before final numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Barnack said: First year with a reverse in term or going back up in home ent revenues by theatrical dollar could be coming up at deadline. In general as the era of streaming begins, I wonder if this way to account for home entertainment will not become outdated. Corporations will use movies and TV shows to attract subscribers, not directly get sales. For example when HBO Max pays "billions of dollars" (!) for Warner TV's Big Bang Theory, it is obviously fantastic for the main actors, Chuck Lorre and whoever else gets a share of the revenue. But a lot of it is just money moving around AT&T accounts (and that is why nobody else could realistically compete). Edited October 24, 2019 by MrGlass2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teard1972 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) Taiwan 10/3-10/6: NT$ 93m 10/7-10/13: NT$ 132m 10/14-10/20: NT$ 54m as of 10/20 total at NT$ 279,747,523 Joker still has a chance to become the 4th DC movie to cross NT$ 300m (Aquaman 470m, TDKR: 360m WW: 333m). MAL2 didn't open well, but Gemini Man opens today and may hurt its chance, because Ang Lee has homecourt advantage here~ Taiwan is your basic Marvel Colony, Aquaman over-performed, very much like, in a smaller scale, in mainland China. Joker, being DC cbm, no action/CGI to speak of, and not a date movie...its run so far is quite respectable actually. Edited October 24, 2019 by teard1972 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ 95 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) Thursday - Japan Joker drop 26.5% from last week. It's biggest drop so far in it's run. Other movie in top ten actually drop around the same ballpark (18-35% ). So still a normal drop but rather than closing in to 20% drop it's actually getting closer to > 30% drop, which is a normal drop for SH movie in Japan. Tomorrow it will try surpass $ 30m. Good news is total seats for Joker increase by 14.5% tomorrow, so it may soften it's drop and increase better than 20% like last weekend. Edited October 24, 2019 by RJ 95 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ 95 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) Joker OS update from Screendaily 521.9m (+30.6m from last Sunday update). With domestic until Wednesday, total should be 778.1m. After this weekend should be in 835-845m and OS around 560-570m. https://www.screendaily.com/box-office/can-terminator-dark-fate-out-muscle-maleficent-2-at-international-box-office/5144125.article Edited October 25, 2019 by RJ 95 Changing prediction, miscalculated. 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo1500 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, RJ 95 said: Joker OS update from Screendaily 521.9m (+30.6m from last Sunday update). With domestic until Wednesday, total should be 778.1m. After this weekend should be in 840-855m and OS around 565-575m. https://www.screendaily.com/box-office/can-terminator-dark-fate-out-muscle-maleficent-2-at-international-box-office/5144125.article 840-855 seems little bit out of reach due to the OS weekend jumping 45-55 in your numbers. The realistic target is 815-820M Edited October 25, 2019 by Geo1500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ 95 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Geo1500 said: 840-855 seems little bit out of reach due to the OS weekend jumping 45-55 in your numbers. The realistic target is 815-820M 778+ 2m Thu Dom+ 15 WE Dom + 43m WE OS (45% drop from LW) = 838 Ok, just miss by 2m. There are chance Screendaily underestimate it , Joker may drop better than 45% drop from last weekend and lastly I even take conservative number for domestic Thu-Sun. Also from your prediction with 815-820m by the end of WE, do you expect it will drop 72% from last International weekend ? 77.8 to 22m Edited October 25, 2019 by RJ 95 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...