The Marvels | November 10, 2023 | Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter

[Firepower]

53 minutes ago, Mulder said:

I have to be honest, the only one of these four which I think is guaranteed to make money is The Batman 2.

Really? Both Deadpool 3 and Joker 2 will probably gross more than Batman 2 while being R rated movies.

[Psylocke]

Now at a 59% RT.

[Hypercortical]

oooh, it's on 59% now

[Firepower]

Could it be Ghostbusters reboot situation where US critics carried the movie hard, but audiences absolutely despised it?

[HummingLemon496]

IT'S GETTING TO FRESH BOYZZZZZ

[Ozymandias]

lol it'll be fresh, leave it to America to always over-correct

[interiorgatordecorator]

damn, sure looks like the bloggers are going to get their fresh rating

[HummingLemon496]

Now watch them seamlessly transition from "haha it's rotten, critics agree that it's trash" to "noooo critics are shills blah blah blah"

[Psylocke]

It makes me wonder why American critics are kinder to this than International critics?

[Mulder]

4 minutes ago, Firepower said:

Really? Both Deadpool 3 and Joker 2 will probably gross more than Batman 2 while being R rated movies.

Maybe Deadpool 3 if it gets lucky, but there is no way that Joker 2 doesn't have its own Captain Marvel-esque collapse.

[DInky]

Just now, Psylocke said:

It makes me wonder why American critics are kinder to this than International critics?

 

Aren't American critics more favorable towards superhero movies in general?

[Torontofan]

Just now, Psylocke said:

It makes me wonder why American critics are kinder to this than International critics?

American critics sometimes scores movies on politics

[MovieMan89]

I can’t see it staying fresh with the narrative around it. It’s too big of a failure, box office floppage will likely drag it back to rotten if it does go fresh. Critics who chime in after OW lately have been on a huge trend of matching their reviews to a movie’s success. 

[Ozymandias]

Just now, Psylocke said:

It makes me wonder why American critics are kinder to this than International critics?

 

because America is ground zero for the stupid culture wars

[Firepower]

2 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Maybe Deadpool 3 if it gets lucky, but there is no way that Joker 2 doesn't have its own Captain Marvel-esque collapse.

Nonsense. Why would Joker sequel have Captain Marvel collapse, but Batman sequel succeed? Based on what?

Edited November 9, 2023 by Firepower

[nevermore]

1 minute ago, HummingLemon496 said:

Now watch them seamlessly transition from "haha it's rotten, critics agree that it's trash" to "noooo critics are shills blah blah blah"

Most people agree Thor 4 is trash and that has 63%. There's no marked difference there.

[DInky]

1 minute ago, Ozymandias said:

 

because America is ground zero for the stupid culture wars

 

Or maybe because comic book superheroes are more ingrained in American culture?

[Eric Lasagna]

Moderation 

 

As a reminder, we don’t do this whole “American critics are too nice and only think about politics” stuff. You guys know that isn’t true and that the staff doesn’t allow that, so why even bother doing it? Quit while you’re ahead.

[Noctis]

As a very casual Marvel viewer, Phases 1-3 were unbelievably more exciting and consistent in both quality and novelty. 

 

The past two years I have massively checked out from anything Marvel due to them overwhelmingly bombarding us with countless TV shows and projects. Enough. They have caused me (and many others) to view the upcoming movies with much less weight, ESPECIALLY since they supposedly tied stuff from the TV shows to the movies.

 

And happy birthday @SpiderByte! Have a great one!

[Squire]

12 minutes ago, Firepower said:

Could it be Ghostbusters reboot situation where US critics carried the movie hard, but audiences absolutely despised it?

Looks like it. Whether people like to admit it or not, in this day and age certain critics have agendas. The bloggers are certainly doing their best to give this movie some kind of win.