The Marvels | November 10, 2023 | Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter

[DInky]

57 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

Wow, this is dropping higher than freaking Fant4stic ( 2015 ) ?

 

 

 

Likely biggest drop for a superhero movie ever.

[Valencia]

18 minutes ago, Nicson said:

And then everything will go to shit once again when 2025 hits. 

Captain Falcon, Bucky, and 51 year Mahershala Ali.

 

Combined $300M WW on a combined $500M budget?

 

Gonna be brutal.

 

 

 

[Masketta Man]

11 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

Yes yes everyone's decided that all the movies that haven't filmed any footage are automatic bombs, but it's pretty clear The Marvels is an exception.

[SpiderByte]

3 minutes ago, Masketta Man said:

Probably the most annoying thing about this nonsense is it'll be years for the movies to come out and prove the cynics wrong, since even already people are saying "well obviously Deadpool 3 doesn't count"

[DInky]

8 minutes ago, Valencia said:

Captain Falcon, Bucky, and 51 year Mahershala Ali.

 

Combined $300M WW on a combined $500M budget?

 

Gonna be brutal.

 

 

 

 

I can see Blade being the most successful one (if it's good) out of these three. Smaller budget and you don't need to have seen any prior movies.

[aliadiere29]

2 hours ago, DInky said:

Will The Marvels take the crown for the worst second weekend drop for a superhero movie? Currently held by Steel (1997) with 78% I believe.

 

Let's hope so. Disney deserves this!

[Halberstram]

I fear the quality got worse because they're overloaded with Disney+ shows, where creatives have a terrible feedback loop. These same creatives then work on the movies and find that the success of Disney+ shows was due to a small, but committed fanbase that will praise everything that they do. 

[Ryan Reynolds]

I imagine if Dune II was released , The Marvels would be making Shazam II box office.

[HummingLemon496]

9 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

I imagine if Dune II was released , The Marvels would be making Shazam II box office.

July 28th is calling

[Valencia]

11 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

I imagine if Dune II was released , The Marvels would be making Shazam II box office.

Probably worse.

 

It would have had competition and lost all those IMAX screens it originally wasn't supposed to have because Dune had exclusivity.

[PlatnumRoyce]

13 hours ago, Porthos said:

And I'm not even being snide here because Hollywood Accounting is such an infamous joke that, famously enough, Fox/Lucasfilm tried to claim that Return of the Jedi was never profitable

 

11 hours ago, Porthos said:

Think for a second how BOT would be reacting to a 170m film grossing 12m.  Worldwide.  Just imagine for a moment.  That's how well The Adventures of Pluto Nash did.  The Marvels may be many things, but in that league, it isn't.

 

I was going to say "but what about it obviously being dumped" but...that's not what happened!?!

 

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Confronted with a possible turkey, Warners will not try to save money by quietly dumping ''Pluto'' into a few theaters before a video release. It will back the movie with a typical advertising budget (which currently averages about $30 million a release). - https://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/15/business/media-fighting-the-label-of-turkey.html

 

 

also, look at the forum love in the NYT

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On the Hollywood Stock Exchange, a Web-based game in which players ''buy'' and ''sell'' stars and film properties like stocks, ''Pluto'' has traded lately at a level that suggests an expected opening weekend box-office take as high as $28 million. ''The easy answer is Eddie Murphy,'' Michael O'Rorke, vice president of the Hollywood Stock Exchange, said of the picture's strength among his gamers. ''He's a star.'

 

 

[Krissykins]

Just been to see this and I thought it was enjoyable. 
 

Monica and Goose are the MVP’s. 
 

I still find Carol a bit detached and Samuel L Jackson phoned it in (as usual). 

[Sckathian]

5 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

Probably the most annoying thing about this nonsense is it'll be years for the movies to come out and prove the cynics wrong, since even already people are saying "well obviously Deadpool 3 doesn't count"

The delay might be quite a problem honestly. And no Deadpool 3 doesn’t really count, it’s a comedy that parodies these movies. A whole year without a mainline entry isn’t great.

 

if Deadpool ends up as a true MCU movie rather than a pisstake it’ll be extremely disappointing.

 

The fact your relying in films years away is not a positive.

[SpiderByte]

9 minutes ago, Sckathian said:

The delay might be quite a problem honestly. And no Deadpool 3 doesn’t really count, it’s a comedy that parodies these movies. A whole year without a mainline entry isn’t great.

 

if Deadpool ends up as a true MCU movie rather than a pisstake it’ll be extremely disappointing.

 

The fact your relying in films years away is not a positive.

What are you talking about, why does Deadpool magically not count just because it's a comedy

Edited November 19, 2023 by SpiderByte

[Sckathian]

15 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

What are you talking about, why does Deadpool magically not count just because it's a comedy

Because people who think the MCU is bad and a joke right now will happily go watch DP3 mock it relentlessly. Let’s not act like this is a franchise grown by the current MCU leadership.

 

DP3 will not excite people for the rest of the current slate.

[Zakiyyah6]

I barely agree with Spiderbyte on anything concerning Marvel but I think saying that Deadpool doesn't count as an MCU film because it is a comedy and a parody is ridiculous. 

[John Marston]

Deadpool doesn't count in showing the real strength of the MCU even if it makes a billion. That just shows people love Deadpool and Jackman's Wolverine. It does not then mean Thunderbolts and a Young Avengers movie with Ms Marvel, Ant Man's daughter, what's her name from Hawkeye and what's her name from Doctor Strange 2 will be hits

[emoviefan]

9 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

I barely agree with Spiderbyte on anything concerning Marvel but I think saying that Deadpool doesn't count as an MCU film because it is a comedy and a parody is ridiculous. 

The best thing for it is to be the best of both. Because if it just ends up Deadpool and Wolverine in another badly edited lazy storytelling MCU movie then yeah not good.

[Masketta Man]

Deadpool doesn't count because it's another trilogy ender, this time from a series that wasn't even in MCU from start.

[Sckathian]

When I say it doesn’t count I am more trying to say it won’t make a difference to the brand issue the MCU currently has. It’s totally separate. Which is a good thing for the films chances of success but that does leave a gap between mainline entires.