charlie Jatinder Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) Presales: China has $1.1mn including $670k for opening day. Russia $65k including $38k OD. Edited September 1, 2020 by charlie Jatinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 37mn Europe & ME should leg to $155mn Approx. ANZ should perhaps $13-15mn. Korea $13-15mn Taiwan $9mn South East Asia $8mn Overall this frame should give $200mn Approx. In next weekend of releases, China I still feel can reach $100mn. Russia perhaps $10-15mn. Over next Middle East + Hong Kong should hit $10mn. That gives $320-325mn Approx, without Japan, India, Latin America and Indonesia-Philippines. Don't know what to expect from Latin America, but India, Japan & Indo can give around $30-35mn. Dunkirk & Interstellar did some $20mn in Latin America. So $370-375mn Approx internationally. Domestically $100mn seems certain. This has solid chance at hitting $500mn. Korea has disappointed big time, if it had delivered 500mn was locked. 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borobudur Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said: 37mn Europe & ME should leg to $155mn Approx. ANZ should perhaps $13-15mn. Korea $13-15mn Taiwan $9mn South East Asia $8mn Overall this frame should give $200mn Approx. In next weekend of releases, China I still feel can reach $100mn. Russia perhaps $10-15mn. Over next Middle East + Hong Kong should hit $10mn. That gives $320-325mn Approx, without Japan, India, Latin America and Indonesia-Philippines. Don't know what to expect from Latin America, but India, Japan & Indo can give around $30-35mn. Dunkirk & Interstellar did some $20mn in Latin America. So $370-375mn Approx internationally. Domestically $100mn seems certain. This has solid chance at hitting $500mn. Korea has disappointed big time, if it had delivered 500mn was locked. If this movie hit 500m worldwide, how can domestic only have 100m? that was only 20% of the worldwide gross. It is unusual low for a Nolan film. Even interstellar has about 27% domestic share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said: 37mn Europe & ME should leg to $155mn Approx. ANZ should perhaps $13-15mn. Korea $13-15mn Taiwan $9mn South East Asia $8mn Overall this frame should give $200mn Approx. In next weekend of releases, China I still feel can reach $100mn. Russia perhaps $10-15mn. Over next Middle East + Hong Kong should hit $10mn. That gives $320-325mn Approx, without Japan, India, Latin America and Indonesia-Philippines. Don't know what to expect from Latin America, but India, Japan & Indo can give around $30-35mn. Dunkirk & Interstellar did some $20mn in Latin America. So $370-375mn Approx internationally. Domestically $100mn seems certain. This has solid chance at hitting $500mn. Korea has disappointed big time, if it had delivered 500mn was locked. 100 million dom, will be with new york etc or from the states that have movie theaters open right now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) some potential good news us for 15 straight days has seen an overall decline in cases still has many cases but the range now is 35-48k as opposed of 50-75k 15 days before hopefully this trend continues yesterday us had 34 k cases Edited August 31, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiem Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Solid start, a little better than I was expecting despite SK going a bit lower for reasons outside of Tenets control. I think 2nd weekend drop (hopefully it’s a small 30-40% drop) will be important and Warner and the other studios will be watching that and the domestic opening very closely to decide what they do with their big $150m+ films going forward in the short term (keep them for this year or push them back into next year.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealLyre Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 500M+ gross for Tenet is great for theaters as it shows consumer confidence in going back to cinemas. but Tenet's break even point was 800M iirc so it's still a bit far off from being a financial success i guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, RealLyre said: but Tenet's break even point was 800M No way, especially since it has better theater terms. 550-600mn would have been fine for the film, now 400-450 is enough, assuming VOD sales will be bigger than normal few months later 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel M Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, RealLyre said: but Tenet's break even point was 800M iirc so it's still a bit far off from being a financial success i guess 1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said: No way, especially since it has better theater terms. 550-600mn would have been fine for the film, now 400-450 is enough, assuming VOD sales will be bigger than normal few months later Don't know what trade circulated that 800m number but it sounds like some Deadline bullshit. Budget+Marketing+Prints+CEO's Wife vacation and the movie has to made double that in theatres to break even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) Netherlands opening weekend €1,574,805. Including previews €1,781,569. Excellent. Switzerland $1.08mn weekend. Edited August 31, 2020 by charlie Jatinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 500 would be a pretty big success under the circumstances imo. I’m targeting more like 420 for now (which would also be a solid result), but picture will be much clearer in 7 days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 Next two weeks will decide whether Wonder Woman 1984 release by November or not. Europe has given big numbers but WW 84 need Latin & North America continent more than Europe. What do I think? No, most likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Next two weeks will decide whether Wonder Woman 1984 release by October or not. Europe has given big numbers but WW 84 need Latin & North America continent more than Europe. What do I think? No, most likely. longer than that at least for dom, asia and europe are fine, australia , canada too, as for latin america if brazil and mexico deliver that would be enough, so you only need us to perform which even though will not be easy, it for sure as hell take more than 2 weeks to see its fully potential, i reckon, that by tenet 3rd weekend we will be able to even make a prediction abouts its dom final haul, also wonderwoman indeed will need dom than os, it will not be like say black widow , or the general mcu movies that while have very good dom haul their os total are very very big, at the same time there is a very good potential that new york along with some california counties and some other states will be open by the end of sept, especially if the covid cases in the us keep being steady and declining Edited August 31, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) @charlie Jatinder will you be able to give an estimation about tenet os dailies ? Edited August 31, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 hours ago, RealLyre said: 500M+ gross for Tenet is great for theaters as it shows consumer confidence in going back to cinemas. but Tenet's break even point was 800M iirc so it's still a bit far off from being a financial success i guess I seriously doubt that 800m breaking even point. Both A star is born and joker have about 110-120m P&A, which was substantially inflated by their Oscar campaign. I doubt Tenet P&A can be much higher than those figure from ASIB and Joker since majority of the outdoor events got cancelled. Lastly, WB demand 63% of the box office share in USA, which could offset further the cost. Unless china made 50% of the gross, the 800m point is highly unlikely, 600m-650m is a more reasonable range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 SAN DIEGO COUNTY, Calif. — Starting Monday, businesses including movie theaters, gyms, museums and hair and nail salons can resume indoor operations, with modifications, under newly issued state guidance related to the coronavirus pandemic.Restaurants, places of worship and movie theaters can reopen indoor operations Monday, but are only allowed up to 25% occupancy or 100 people -- whichever is less. Museums, zoos and aquariums are also required not to exceed 25% occupancy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ 95 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) Revised for OWeek $53.6m, only going down 0.1m in UK and up by 0.1m too in France For France admission detail : 111.3k in previews, 125k OD and 573k Thu-Sun Edited August 31, 2020 by RJ 95 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 some good news https://deadline.com/2020/08/new-jersey-movie-theaters-reopen-friday-governor-says-1203027615/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, john2000 said: some good news https://deadline.com/2020/08/new-jersey-movie-theaters-reopen-friday-governor-says-1203027615/ It could get some boost from NY folks going across to see the movies. But theaters in NYC need to open for a big boost and I doubt Cuomo will take the risk at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 18 hours ago, Borobudur said: If this movie hit 500m worldwide, how can domestic only have 100m? that was only 20% of the worldwide gross. It is unusual low for a Nolan film. Even interstellar has about 27% domestic share. America has a bigger problem with the virus than other countries right now. So it would not be at all shocking if America only covers 20% of the total box office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...