No Way Home Weekend Thread | #RIP AIW Record | 260M OW DOM | 340M OS | 600M OW WW W/O CHINA

[MrFanaticGuy34]

10 minutes ago, Weird Alegion said:

Jurassic world chilling up there in the top 15 nervously eyeing 14 Disney productions 

It’s funny that you mentioned Jurassic World, since SM: NWH does remind me a bit of that movie in terms of box office. There were early predictions for them to do big numbers (before their releases), but not to the levels that they actually ended with/will end up with. And they both have their own novelty factors to their bigger than expected openings.

 

There’s always gonna be those blockbuster movies that have that rare & unexpected box office explosion. It happened before and might happen again in the future.

[grey ghost]

Biggest box office markets:

 

1) Global

2) China

3) USA

 

Ya'll agree or disagree?

[grey ghost]

3 minutes ago, efialtes76 said:

And Avatar and Titanic wasn't Disney...

 

He was talking about the top 15 opening weekends.

[EarlyDeadlinePredictions]

2 more pages! 

[MrFanaticGuy34]

4 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

He was talking about the top 15 opening weekends.

Yeah. So far, only two movies from the top 15 opening weekends, are not distributed by Disney. SM: NWH (Sony) & JW (Universal).

[YM!]

Damn, it took us the Monday after the weekend to get to 100 pages despite a $260m opener? Flop thread

[Nerfy]

Reminder. Sony's estimate published by Deadline just four days ago was 130m....

 

 

[Cap]

22 minutes ago, CJohn said:

China doesn't count anymore.

No more excuses for not giving Andrew Spidey a boyfriend now!!!

[Cap]

Just now, YourMother said:

Damn, it took us the Monday after the weekend to get to 100 pages despite a $260m opener? Flop thread

It’s @The Panda’s fault. He was suppose to tell the Telegram chat to post more. 

[Daxtreme]

$600M round worldwide opening?

 

$260M round OW, #2 all-time ?

 

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

1 hour ago, cannastop said:

 

The bad faith box office takes from people who pay attention to it (like the types insisting Disney bought up all the Captain Marvel tickets) are obnoxious enough, but the ones from awards/culture writer types who don't really follow it closely...truly abysmal and idiotic.

 

Obviously, No Way Home is from Sony.

It also wasn't out last week when West Side Story barely hit the low end of its tracking, and many other awards hopefuls from a variety of studios have mostly underwhelmed all year, playing to more empty seats than theaters and studios would have liked. Things finally hit a boiling point this weekend and it does suck about Nightmare Alley having opening weekend screenings canceled. But looking at the whole year, this weekend was like theaters saying to the prestige audience, "Sorry, but we've given you chance after chance to show up for MONTHS, you didn't, so we've got money to make." 

 

I think the intentions in having Nightmare Alley in theaters now were actually good. In the past,  even if you we're like the 4th or 5th biggest thing out during the holiday season you could make bank. In hindsight a fatal miscalculation, given the current landscape and the movie itself, a pretty bleak and cynical affair for any time of year, let alone Christmas during a pandemic.

[Eric is Quiet]

12 minutes ago, Cap said:

No more excuses for not giving Andrew Spidey a boyfriend now!!!

Now this is how I would support Andrew being in the Marvel Industrial Complex

[Torontofan]

I am gonna just wait till after xmas to watch this movie, I gave up on getting tickets in the evening here due to our 50% capacity. 

[Krissykins]

Absolutely incredible for Spider-Man. I’m glad it beat Infinity War too, it’s a much better film IMO. 

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

The bad faith box office takes from people who pay attention to it (like the types insisting Disney bought up all the Captain Marvel tickets) are obnoxious enough, but the ones from awards/culture writer types who don't really follow it closely...truly abysmal and idiotic.

 

Obviously, No Way Home is from Sony.

It also wasn't out last week when West Side Story barely hit the low end of its tracking, and many other awards hopefuls from a variety of studios have mostly underwhelmed all year, playing to more empty seats than theaters and studios would have liked. Things finally hit a boiling point this weekend and it does suck about Nightmare Alley having opening weekend screenings canceled. But looking at the whole year, this weekend was like theaters saying to the prestige audience, "Sorry, but we've given you chance after chance to show up for MONTHS, you didn't, so we've got money to make." 

 

I think the intentions in having Nightmare Alley in theaters now were actually good. In the past,  even if you we're like the 4th or 5th biggest thing out during the holiday season you could make bank. In hindsight a fatal miscalculation, given the current landscape and the movie itself, a pretty bleak and cynical affair for any time of year, let alone Christmas during a pandemic.

FWIW a lot of theaters that are already setting their schedules for Christmas Day are keeping West Side Story and Nightmare Alley as all-day movies and not reducing their showtimes despite the dismal numbers they posted this weekend (the former is actually getting upgraded to bigger auditoriums at some places, at least during the day). Don't think it's much of a surprise they're getting chances to redeem themselves over the holidays when everyone knows that 1) the astoundingly low numbers they posted this weekend were because they had so little auditorium space to work with due to The Force Awakens of comic book movies gobbling up so many screens and 2) the audience for 2.5 hour dramas were more likely to show up during the Christmas Day through New Year's corridor than before it with all the holiday distractions.

[Mango]

10 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

The bad faith box office takes from people who pay attention to it (like the types insisting Disney bought up all the Captain Marvel tickets) are obnoxious enough, but the ones from awards/culture writer types who don't really follow it closely...truly abysmal and idiotic.

 

Obviously, No Way Home is from Sony.

It also wasn't out last week when West Side Story barely hit the low end of its tracking, and many other awards hopefuls from a variety of studios have mostly underwhelmed all year, playing to more empty seats than theaters and studios would have liked. Things finally hit a boiling point this weekend and it does suck about Nightmare Alley having opening weekend screenings canceled. But looking at the whole year, this weekend was like theaters saying to the prestige audience, "Sorry, but we've given you chance after chance to show up for MONTHS, you didn't, so we've got money to make." 

 

I think the intentions in having Nightmare Alley in theaters now were actually good. In the past,  even if you we're like the 4th or 5th biggest thing out during the holiday season you could make bank. In hindsight a fatal miscalculation, given the current landscape and the movie itself, a pretty bleak and cynical affair for any time of year, let alone Christmas during a pandemic.

 

Nightmare Alley directly against Spidey was piss-poor scheduling anyway. The two are supposed to have different enough audiences and should co-exist, but you can't go up against a 4-quadrant event film and expect not to get creamed. The few that have managed that are the exceptions, not the rule.

[grey ghost]

When will we know if this has a shot at a billion domestic or beating TFA?

[Shanks]

10 minutes ago, Eric Osborn said:

Now this is how I would support Andrew being in the Marvel Industrial Complex

It won't work.

 

Tom Holland's Spidey tried to be a little different. little easy and he wasn't given his due until now, when has been almost reset to original.

 

It may work - if Andrew's Spidey's name isn't Peter Parker but some different Spiderman altogether.

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

When will we know if this has a shot at a billion domestic or beating TFA?

By January 2 when the holidays will be wrapping up.

[Momori]