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PSA:   As a heads up to everyone, we'll be starting a new thread here very soon. For those who are newer to the forum, we typically have to split threads once they reach 1,000+ pages and are still highly active. In the past, such topics have created database slowdown issues that affect the entire forum.   Rest assured, this thread will be archived when it is locked and a link to the new one will be posted to help you find it easily (it will also be pinned to the top of the box o
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Yea we're gonna drop all this non tracking stuff. That expressly means you, @excel1. Next post from you that isn't tracking related is a thread ban.    Anyone else continues, it's points. 

We're all tired of the non-tracking related thread derailments. This is your fair warning.

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On 12/6/2022 at 9:52 AM, M37 said:

Updated for T-10. Will leave the analysis/speculation from here to others

 

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Updated T-8, with a lot of data points the last few days, definitely showing some upward trajectory in the trendlines

 

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However, a word of caution: if Avatar were to prove to be a more pre-sale heavy title, seeing a growth vs comps from the ~T-14/11 to ~T-4 period, before lagging a bit down the homestretch and dipping back down, is precisely the pattern one would expect ...

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Santikos Tracking

 

By format

 

Day Movie Format Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-10 Avatar 2 (Sat) PLF 60 177 1,959 9,327 21.00% $15.40 $30,159.40
    Standard 21 55 461 3,024 15.24% $10.75 $4,956.65
  Total   81 232 2,420 12,351 19.59% $14.51 $35,116.05
T-11 Avatar 2 (Sun) PLF 63 143 1,182 10,002 11.82% $14.96 $17,677.23
    Standard 21 27 354 3,024 11.71% $9.99 $3,536.21
  Total   84 170 1,536 13,026 11.79% $13.81 $21,213.44
T-8 Avatar 2 PLF 43 146 2,064 6,710 30.76% $15.89 $32,793.70
    Standard 17 52 485 2,380 20.38% $12.01 $5,823.07
  Total   60 198 2,549 9,090 28.04% $15.15 $38,616.77
T-9 Avatar 2 (Fri) PLF 63 177 1,916 10,002 19.16% $16.30 $31,225.45
    Standard 21 33 480 3,024 15.87% $12.50 $6,000.00
  Total   84 210 2,396 13,026 18.39% $15.54 $37,225.45

 

By matinee

 

Day Movie Mat Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-10 Avatar 2 (Sat) N 36 82 1,156 5,880 19.66% $17.31 $20,014.55
    Y 45 150 1,264 6,471 19.53% $11.95 $15,101.50
  Total   81 232 2,420 12,351 19.59% $14.51 $35,116.05
T-11 Avatar 2 (Sun) N 37 73 520 6,105 8.52% $18.00 $9,357.96
    Y 47 97 1,016 6,921 14.68% $11.67 $11,855.48
  Total   84 170 1,536 13,026 11.79% $13.81 $21,213.44
T-8 Avatar 2 N 39 163 2,011 5,967 33.70% $15.95 $32,076.14
    Y 21 35 538 3,123 17.23% $12.16 $6,540.63
  Total   60 198 2,549 9,090 28.04% $15.15 $38,616.77
T-9 Avatar 2 (Fri) N 37 139 1,844 6,105 30.20% $16.57 $30,546.29
    Y 47 71 552 6,921 7.98% $12.10 $6,679.16
  Total   84 210 2,396 13,026 18.39% $15.54 $37,225.45

 

Avatar previews T-8 comps

 - NWH - .166x (8.29m)

 - Batman - missed

 - Thor 4 - .411x (11.91m)

 - DS2 - .241x (8.67m)

 - BP2 - .497x (13.93m)

 - Top Gun 2 - 1.285x (18.9m)

 - FB3 - 4.35x (26.1m)

 - JW3 - .786x (14.14m)

 

Avatar Fri T-9 comps

 - NWH - .19x (13.66m)

 - DS2 - .324x (17.73m)

 

Don't have any comps this far out for weekend sales unfortunately.  

Santikos Tracking

 

By format

 

Day Movie Format Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-10 Avatar 2 (Sun) PLF 75 81 1,263 12,210 10.34% $14.98 $18,917.63
    Standard 53 4 358 6,908 5.18% $10.00 $3,578.97
  Total   128 85 1,621 19,118 8.48% $13.88 $22,496.60
T-7 Avatar 2 PLF 54 120 2,184 8,429 25.91% $15.85 $34,626.72
    Standard 44 46 531 5,959 8.91% $11.97 $6,356.02
  Total   98 166 2,715 14,388 18.87% $15.09 $40,982.74
T-8 Avatar 2 (Fri) PLF 75 98 2,014 12,210 16.49% $16.34 $32,899.19
    Standard 54 30 510 7,010 7.28% $12.42 $6,332.46
  Total   129 128 2,524 19,220 13.13% $15.54 $39,231.65
T-9 Avatar 2 (Sat) PLF 74 131 2,090 11,989 17.43% $15.37 $32,113.03
    Standard 53 32 493 6,899 7.15% $10.96 $5,401.15
  Total   127 163 2,583 18,888 13.68% $14.52 $37,514.18

 

 

By matinee

 

Day Movie Mat Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-10 Avatar 2 (Sun) N 58 42 562 9,191 6.11% $17.99 $10,113.08
    Y 70 43 1,059 9,927 10.67% $11.69 $12,383.52
  Total   128 85 1,621 19,118 8.48% $13.88 $22,496.60
T-7 Avatar 2 N 70 103 2,114 10,373 20.38% $15.94 $33,689.39
    Y 28 63 601 4,015 14.97% $12.14 $7,293.35
  Total   98 166 2,715 14,388 18.87% $15.09 $40,982.74
T-8 Avatar 2 (Fri) N 59 91 1,935 9,293 20.82% $16.60 $32,117.33
    Y 70 37 589 9,927 5.93% $12.08 $7,114.32
  Total   129 128 2,524 19,220 13.13% $15.54 $39,231.65
T-9 Avatar 2 (Sat) N 58 96 1,252 9,184 13.63% $17.24 $21,585.80
    Y 69 67 1,331 9,704 13.72% $11.97 $15,928.38
  Total   127 163 2,583 18,888 13.68% $14.52 $37,514.18

 

Avatar previews T-7 comps

 - NWH - .173x (8.64m)

 - Batman - .79x (13.91m)

 - Thor 4 - .428x (12.41m)

 - DS2 - .246x (8.84m)

 - BP2 - missed

 - Top Gun 2 - 1.283x (18.86m)

 - FB3 - 4.095x (24.57m)

 - JW3 - missed

 

Avatar Fri T-8 comps

 - NWH - .196x (14.08m)

 - DS2 - .316x (17.28m)

 - Batman - .872x (30.51m)

 

Don't have any comps this far out for weekend sales unfortunately.

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any way to know how many of those locations are 3d capable? or include plf's?

how long does it take to convert a 2d screen to 3d if you dont have the equipment? do we assume that if a theater doesnt have 3d on ow they wont have it for the rest of the run?

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Only a small update today (and not much happened):

Empire of Light has only in one of my theaters showtimes and 13 respectively 18 sold tickets for today and tomorrow.

Spoiler Alert has showtimes is 3 theaters and had 40 respectively 41 sold tickets for today and tomorrow.

 

And The Whale had today in the AMC Lincoln Square 571 sold tickets for today and 468 for Friday.
Really nice numbers. I'm curious which theater average it will reach.

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Eastern Canada 

Dec 15 and Dec 16 (taken Dec  8 ) No comps

 

    # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Quebec Thurs 4 33 632 8010 8642 0.0731
  Fri 4 29 1316 6213 7529 0.1747
Nova Sc Thurs 5 39 674 7568 8242 0.0817
  fri 5 17 598 3929 4527 0.1320
New B Thurs 4 22 174 4355 4529 0.0384
  fri 4 12 230 2448 2678 0.0858
St Jon NF Thurs 1 12 136 2156 2292 0.0593
    1 6 32 198 230 0.1391

(note all adds are for Thurs Shows only)

Quebec 

14 shows add, 20 added seat sales

 

Nova Scotia

27 shows add, 401 added seat sales

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2 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

any way to know how many of those locations are 3d capable? or include plf's?

how long does it take to convert a 2d screen to 3d if you dont have the equipment? do we assume that if a theater doesnt have 3d on ow they wont have it for the rest of the run?

I'm actually working on getting some breakdowns on this for next week's final forecast. Though it's possible some trade will report them before, but we'll see.

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6 minutes ago, Shawn said:

I'm actually working on getting some breakdowns on this for next week's final forecast. Though it's possible some trade will report them before, but we'll see.

 

That'll be awesome to see Shawn, thanks!

 

Looking forward to seeing the next forecast for Avatar from BOP tomorrow :) As well as if any of its "competition" have moved much

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That'll be awesome to see Shawn, thanks!

 

Looking forward to seeing the next forecast for Avatar from BOP tomorrow :) As well as if any of its "competition" have moved much

It's in the publication queue now. I think Avatar fans will enjoy it.

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Avatar The Way of Water Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total 690 2354 29.31%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 450 1774 25.37%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
3319 218 24679 13.45% 15 163

 

AMCs sold 1912
Cinemarks sold 522
Regals sold 521
Harkins sold 364

 

0.588x Thor L&T T-8 (17.06M)

1.30x Jurassic World Dominion T-8 (23.46M)

0.849x Top Gun Maverick T-8 (16.36M)

1.93x Eternals T-8 (18.32M)

Avatar The Way of Water Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total 715 2354 30.37%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 511 2926 17.46%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
3555 236 25911 13.72% 15 167

 

AMCs sold 2035
Cinemarks sold 561
Regals sold 555
Harkins sold 404

 

0.604x Thor L&T T-7 (17.51M)

0.840x Top Gun Maverick T-7 (16.19M)

0.826x Batman T-7 (17.84M)

1.99x Eternals T-7 (18.93M)

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Avatar The Way of Water Megaplex

 

T-8 Thursday(116 showings): 3540(+257)/27402

0.619x Thor L&T T-8 (17.94M)

1.49x Jurassic World Dominion T-8 (26.83M)

0.754x Top Gun Maverick T-8 (14.52M)

 

T-9 Friday(158 showings): 3797(+346)/38860

1.14x Thor L&T T-9 (46.04M)

1.60x Jurassic World Dominion T-9 (66.54M)

0.856x Top Gun Maverick T-9 (28.03M)

 

T-10 Saturday(154 showings): 3963(+319)/39553

2.25x Thor L&T T-10

2.33x Jurassic World Dominion T-10

1.22x Top Gun Maverick T-10 (46.38M)

 

T-11 Sunday(175 showings): 1904(+78)/44851

2.93x Thor L&T T-11

3.27x Jurassic World Dominion T-11

2.32x Top Gun Maverick T-11

Avatar The Way of Water Megaplex

 

T-7 Thursday(116 showings): 3765(+225)/27402

0.630x Thor L&T T-7 (18.26M)

0.744x Top Gun Maverick T-7 (14.32M)

0.738x Batman T-7 (15.94M)

 

T-8 Friday(167 showings): 4096(+299)/41040

1.14x Thor L&T T-8 (46.09M)

0.850x Top Gun Maverick T-8 (27.83M)

1.63x Batman T-8 (57.14M)

 

T-9 Saturday(158 showings): 4198(+235)/40931

2.21x Thor L&T T-9

1.20x Top Gun Maverick T-9 (45.62M)

3.12x Batman T-9

 

T-10 Sunday(175 showings): 2076(+172)/44851

2.97x Thor L&T T-10

2.39x Top Gun Maverick T-10

6.85x Batman T-10

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Avatar The Way of Water Alamo Drafthouse

 

T-8 Thursday(139 showings): 5338(+375)/20052 ATP: $16.36

0.396x Thor L&T T-8 (11.50M)

1.13x Top Gun Maverick Thurs only T-8 (17.26M)

 

T-9 Friday(217 showings): 7023(+440)/31405 ATP: $16.12

0.611x Thor L&T T-9 (24.79M)

1.32x Top Gun Maverick T-9 (43.23M)

 

T-10 Saturday(223 showings): 8051(+556)/32625 ATP: $15.28

0.741x Thor L&T T-10 (31.20M)

1.65x Top Gun Maverick T-10

 

T-11 Sunday(214 showings): 5049(+469)/31134 ATP: $15.05

0.834x Thor L&T T-11 (27.11M)

1.99x Top Gun Maverick T-11

Avatar The Way of Water Alamo Drafthouse

 

T-7 Thursday(146 showings): 5990(+652)/20973 ATP: $16.42

0.422x Thor L&T T-7 (12.25M)

1.14x Top Gun Maverick Thurs only T-7 (17.34M)

0.550x Batman Thurs only T-7 (9.68M)

 

T-8 Friday(217 showings): 7448(+425)/31405 ATP: $16.09

0.624x Thor L&T T-8 (25.30M)

1.26x Top Gun Maverick T-8 (41.27M)

0.689x Batman T-8 (24.12M)

 

T-9 Saturday(223 showings): 8485(+434)/32625 ATP: $15.27

0.746x Thor L&T T-9 (31.43M)

1.56x Top Gun Maverick T-9 (59.31M)

0.787x Batman T-9 (34.05M)

 

T-10 Sunday(214 showings): 5391(+342)/31134 ATP: $15.07

0.846x Thor L&T T-10 (27.50M)

1.84x Top Gun Maverick T-10

1.11x Batman T-10 (37.81M)

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