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On 6/6/2023 at 11:49 AM, Eric 2099 said:

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 106 1576 18001 8.76%

 

Comp - T-3

2.814x of Uncharted (10.41M)

0.507x of Jurassic World 3 (9.12M)

0.984x of Black Adam (7.48M)

0.428x of Avatar 2 (7.27M)

0.898x of John Wick 4 (8M)

0.847x of Dungeons and Dragons (4.74M)

1.124x of Fast X (8.43M)

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 106 1795 18001 9.97%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 219

 

Comp - T-2

2.598x of Uncharted (9.61M)

0.513x of Jurassic World 3 (9.23M)

0.931x of Black Adam (7.08M)

0.440x of Avatar 2 (7.48M)

0.877x of John Wick 4 (7.8M)

0.901x of Dungeons and Dragons (5.05M)

1.068x of Fast X (8.01M)

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Beetle trailer isn't far below Flash in YouTube likes (and well ahead of the likes of Shazam) I don't think that Flash not being huge means it will flop. Standalone DC films can sometimes do surprisingly well if they strike a chord even when the universe stuff does worse than expected.

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On 6/6/2023 at 12:21 PM, Eric 2099 said:

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-10 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 98 1760 18907 9.31%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 73

 

Comp - T-10

0.327x of The Batman (7.07M)

0.905x of Jurassic World 3 (16.29M)

0.287x of Thor 4 (8.32M)

2.175x of Black Adam (16.53M)

0.803x of Avatar 2 (13.65M)

0.386x of Ant-Man 3 (6.76M)

0.503x of Guardians 3 (8.8M)

0.906x of Spider-Verse (15.72M)

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 98 1809 18907 9.57%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 49

 

Comp - T-9

0.326x of The Batman (7.04M)

0.897x of Jurassic World 3 (16.14M)

0.287x of Thor 4 (8.32M)

2.113x of Black Adam (16.06M)

0.778x of Avatar 2 (13.22M)

0.384x of Ant-Man 3 (6.73M)

0.497x of Guardians 3 (8.7M)

0.870x of Spider-Verse (15.1M)

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11 minutes ago, Eric 2099 said:

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 98 1809 18907 9.57%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 49

 

Comp - T-9

0.326x of The Batman (7.04M)

0.897x of Jurassic World 3 (16.14M)

0.287x of Thor 4 (8.32M)

2.113x of Black Adam (16.06M)

0.778x of Avatar 2 (13.22M)

0.384x of Ant-Man 3 (6.73M)

0.497x of Guardians 3 (8.7M)

0.870x of Spider-Verse (15.1M)

Oh no

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25 minutes ago, Eric 2099 said:

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 98 1809 18907 9.57%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 49

 

Comp - T-9

0.326x of The Batman (7.04M)

0.897x of Jurassic World 3 (16.14M)

0.287x of Thor 4 (8.32M)

2.113x of Black Adam (16.06M)

0.778x of Avatar 2 (13.22M)

0.384x of Ant-Man 3 (6.73M)

0.497x of Guardians 3 (8.7M)

0.870x of Spider-Verse (15.1M)

Still new to reading these comps. Still pointing to 65-85 million opening?

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27 minutes ago, Eric 2099 said:

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 98 1809 18907 9.57%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 49

 

Comp - T-9

0.897x of Jurassic World 3 (16.14M)

2.113x of Black Adam (16.06M)

0.778x of Avatar 2 (13.22M)

0.870x of Spider-Verse (15.1M)

 

Thinking it comes in a bit above this range.

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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 286 3169 9.02%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 234 1750 13.37%

 

Wednesday: 732(+94)

Thursday:

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
1190 148 20312 5.86% 13 119

 

1.496 Fast X T-2 11.22M
1.206 Black Adam T-2 9.16M
0.438 JW Dominion T-2 7.88M

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 342 3169 10.79%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 256 1843 13.89%

 

Wednesday: 924(+192)

Thursday:

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
1445 305 21924 6.59% 13 135

 

1.584 Fast X T-1 11.88M
1.250 Black Adam T-1 9.50M
0.470 JW Dominion T-1 8.46M
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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Alamo Drafthouse

T-2 Thursday 159 Showings 2134 +409 21215 ATP: 14.48
0.599 Fast X T-2 4.49M
0.522 Black Adam T-2 3.97M
0.217 JW Dominion T-2 3.91M

 

T-3 Friday 199 Showings 2100 +517 26060 ATP: 14.55
0.535 Fast X T-3 10.98M
0.497 Black Adam T-3 9.49M
0.180 JW Dominion T-3 7.50M

 

T-4 Saturday 197 Showings 1525 +332 25845 ATP: 14.07
0.586 Fast X T-4 13.18M
0.403 Black Adam T-4 9.55M
0.133 JW Dominion T-4 6.23M

 

T-5 Sunday 179 Showings 741 +170 23662 ATP: 13.27
0.692 Fast X T-5 11.42M
0.515 Black Adam T-5 8.55M
0.119 JW Dominion T-5 4.58M

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Alamo Drafthouse

T-1 Thursday 159 Showings 2669 +535 21231 ATP: 14.46
0.648 Fast X T-1 4.86M
0.579 Black Adam T-1 4.40M
0.234 JW Dominion T-1 4.22M

 

T-2 Friday 204 Showings 2705 +605 26665 ATP: 14.43
0.560 Fast X T-2 11.50M
0.537 Black Adam T-2 10.26M
0.188 JW Dominion T-2 7.80M

 

T-3 Saturday 204 Showings 1949 +424 26698 ATP: 13.97
0.612 Fast X T-3 13.77M
0.442 Black Adam T-3 10.49M
0.144 JW Dominion T-3 6.77M

 

T-4 Sunday 185 Showings 942 +201 24534 ATP:

13.19

0.709 Fast X T-4 11.70M
0.534 Black Adam T-4 8.87M
0.118 JW Dominion T-4 4.56M
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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Emagine Entertainment

T-1 Wednesday 5 Showings 215 +42 817
T-2 Thursday 165 Showings 869 +164 23848
0.720 Fast X T-2 5.40M

 

T-3 Friday 267 Showings 1543 +424 37435
0.628 Fast X T-3 12.89M

 

T-4 Saturday 265 Showings 991 +224 36686
0.737 Fast X T-4 16.58M

 

T-5 Sunday 257 Showings 526 +87 35801
1.021 Fast X T-5 16.85M

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Emagine Entertainment

T-0 Wednesday 4 Showings 345 +130 647
T-1 Thursday 172 Showings 1125 +256 24183
0.793 Fast X T-1 5.95M

 

T-2 Friday 296 Showings 2175 +632 40413
0.686 Fast X T-2 14.08M

 

T-3 Saturday 296 Showings 1310 +319 40301
0.752 Fast X T-3 16.92M

 

T-4 Sunday 284 Showings 667 +141 38877
1.005 Fast X T-4 16.57M
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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Flash Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 303 2188 13.85%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 172 1179 14.59%

 

Monday: 223(+6)

Thursday:

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
1072 54 20101 5.33% 13 108

 

0.652 Across the Spider-Verse T-9 11.31M
0.353 Ant-Man 3 T-9 6.17M
1.924 Black Adam T-9 14.62M
0.237 Thor L&T T-9 6.88M
0.322 Batman T-9 6.96M
0.782 Eternals T-9 7.43M

 

The Flash Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 318 2188 14.53%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 176 1179 14.93%

 

Monday: 225(+2)

Thursday:

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
1129 57 20101 5.62% 13 108

 

0.647 Across the Spider-Verse T-8 11.22M
0.352 Ant-Man 3 T-8 6.17M
0.240 Thor L&T T-8 6.96M
0.787 Eternals T-8 7.47M
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26 minutes ago, 21C said:

Still new to reading these comps. Still pointing to 65-85 million opening?

That data is simply for the preview and even then there is a huge difference depending on the comps being used with one pointing out to less than 7 and another in the 16's. Best thing to do would be take an average of all the comps by all the users tracking it and see where that points. I believe @M37 has excellent chart and table posted in this thread which does just that. 

 

But getting a preview range is just half the picture, the other half depends on its preview to OW multiplier. Since it is summer and its CBM the multiplier is likely to be low, in the 6-7 range I think. But overall yeah I think 65-85 range seems very likely atm. 

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7 hours ago, excel1 said:

 

Trend with non-Batman DC films, trend with popcorn crowd pleaser films, Fathers day weekend, etc. Multiplier is going to be on high-end no doubt.

 

Man of Steel, all of the Jurassic Worlds, Wonder Woman all did same with June releases. Wonder Woman was projected for like $65m shortly before release. 😂


Where were all those walk ups for The Suicide Squad? If anything, those tepid reviews will solidify people like myself not going. I’ve been disappointed too many times by DC recently (I actually saw TSS in theaters opening weekend) and knowing that they are going to reboot anyways, I’m saving my cash for other things. 
 

That’s my two cents. Maybe you’ll be right and it will have ridiculous walk ups, but past data doesn’t suggest that for a movie like this. 

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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Flash Alamo Drafthouse

T-9 Thursday 119 Showings 2802 +172 19296 ATP: 15.66
0.533 Across the Spider-Verse T-9 9.24M
0.251 Ant-Man 3 T-9 4.39M
1.801 Black Adam T-9 13.69M
0.214 Thor L&T T-9 6.21M
0.289 The Batman T-9 5.09M
0.547 Eternals T-9 5.20M

 

T-10 Friday 154 Showings 1935 +119 25508 ATP: 16.10
0.399 Across the Spider-Verse T-10 13.78M
0.192 Ant-Man 3 T-10 5.57M
1.437 Black Adam T-10 27.42M
0.175 Thor L&T T-10 7.09M
0.197 The Batman T-10 6.92M
0.418 Eternals T-10 8.91M

 

T-11 Saturday 152 Showings 1742 +99 25355 ATP: 15.36
0.370 Across the Spider-Verse T-11 13.82M
0.170 Ant-Man 3 T-11 5.75M
1.276 Black Adam T-11 30.26M
0.167 Thor L&T T-11 7.03M
0.181 The Batman T-11 7.84M
0.371 Eternals T-11 8.94M

 

T-12 Sunday 137 Showings 763 +59 23472 ATP: 14.39
0.265 Across the Spider-Verse T-12 8.27M
0.155 Ant-Man 3 T-12 4.00M
1.692 Black Adam T-12 28.09M
0.132 Thor L&T T-12 4.29M
0.181 The Batman T-12 6.18M
0.278 Eternals T-12 4.54M

The Flash Alamo Drafthouse

T-8 Thursday 132 Showings 2944 +142 21027 ATP: 15.68
0.527 Across the Spider-Verse T-8 9.15M
0.255 Ant-Man 3 T-8 4.47M
0.218 Thor L&T T-8 6.32M
0.553 Eternals T-8 5.26M

 

T-9 Friday 154 Showings 2078 +143 25644 ATP: 16.03
0.399 Across the Spider-Verse T-9 13.77M
0.198 Ant-Man 3 T-9 5.73M
0.181 Thor L&T T-9 7.34M
0.430 Eternals T-9 9.17M

 

T-10 Saturday 152 Showings 1883 +141 25352 ATP: 15.34
0.376 Across the Spider-Verse T-10 14.05M
0.176 Ant-Man 3 T-10 5.98M
0.173 Thor L&T T-10 7.30M
0.385 Eternals T-10 9.28M

 

T-11 Sunday 137 Showings 830 +67 23469 ATP:

14.46

0.264 Across the Spider-Verse T-11 8.26M
0.160 Ant-Man 3 T-11 4.13M
0.137 Thor L&T T-11 4.46M
0.290 Eternals T-11 4.73M
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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Flash Emagine Entertainment

T-9 Thursday 140 Showings 1285 +78 21597
0.762 Across the Spider-Verse T-9 13.22M

 

T-10 Friday 224 Showings 817 +99 34431
0.512 Across the Spider-Verse T-10 17.66M

 

T-11 Saturday 217 Showings 597 +36 33582
0.689 Across the Spider-Verse T-11 25.75M

 

T-12 Sunday 210 Showings 260 +43 32463
0.767 Across the Spider-Verse T-12 23.97M

The Flash Emagine Entertainment

T-8 Thursday 142 Showings 1376 +91 22048
0.740 Across the Spider-Verse T-8 12.84M

 

T-9 Friday 224 Showings 870 +53 34429
0.494 Across the Spider-Verse T-9 17.04M

 

T-10 Saturday 217 Showings 634 +37 33578
0.674 Across the Spider-Verse T-10 25.23M

 

T-11 Sunday 210 Showings 281 +21 32461
0.792 Across the Spider-Verse T-11 24.74M
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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 123 2338 5.26%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 161 1365 11.79%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
560 6 20094 2.79% 13 102

 

0.397 JW Dominion T-23 7.14M

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 131 2338 5.60%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 164 1365 12.01%

 

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
576 16 20094 2.87% 13 102

 

0.396 JW Dominion T-22 7.14M
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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Alamo Drafthouse

T-23 Thursday 113 Showings 3754 +22 18505 ATP: 15.58
1.09 JW Dominion T-23 19.57M

 

T-24 Friday 157 Showings 3031 +43 26273 ATP: 15.50
1.09 JW Dominion T-24 45.15M

 

T-25 Saturday 158 Showings 3011 +49 26508 ATP: 14.77
1.04 JW Dominion T-25 48.94M

 

T-26 Sunday 141 Showings 1507 +44 23934 ATP: 14.22
1.30 JW Dominion T-26 50.23M

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Alamo Drafthouse

T-22 Thursday 113 Showings 3803 +49 18502 ATP: 15.56
1.06 JW Dominion T-22 19.15M

 

T-23 Friday 157 Showings 3113 +82 26270 ATP: 15.49
1.07 JW Dominion T-23 44.41M

 

T-24 Saturday 158 Showings 3107 +96 26606 ATP: 14.76
1.04 JW Dominion T-24 48.63M

 

T-25 Sunday 141 Showings 1538 +31 23931 ATP: 14.24
1.31 JW Dominion T-25 50.44M
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1 hour ago, Eric 2099 said:

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 98 1809 18907 9.57%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 49

 

Comp - T-9

0.326x of The Batman (7.04M)

0.897x of Jurassic World 3 (16.14M)

0.287x of Thor 4 (8.32M)

2.113x of Black Adam (16.06M)

0.778x of Avatar 2 (13.22M)

0.384x of Ant-Man 3 (6.73M)

0.497x of Guardians 3 (8.7M)

0.870x of Spider-Verse (15.1M)

Going backwards against all comps on the day after your review embargo isn't a great trend.

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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Emagine Entertainment

T-23 Thursday 143 Showings 721 +32 22139

 

T-24 Friday 232 Showings 269 +9 35338

 

T-25 Saturday 228 Showings 161 +17 34905

 

T-26 Sunday 226 Showings 71 +5 34225

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Emagine Entertainment

T-22 Thursday 143 Showings 738 +17 22137

 

T-23 Friday 232 Showings 295 +26 35334

 

T-24 Saturday 228 Showings 165 +4 34901

 

T-25 Sunday 226 Showings 71 +0 34222
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16 minutes ago, vafrow said:

Going backwards against all comps on the day after your review embargo isn't a great trend.

Defcon 3 moment for me lol. I really think the excessive # of hyped screenings and reactions happening for a month straight, combined with decent but not great reviews, will result in a slowdown near the end instead of a ramp up. People have had arguably too much time to digest all of the flashy reactions instead of concentrating it all to the final 2-3 weeks.

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1 minute ago, Dragoncaine said:

Defcon 3 moment for me lol. I really think the excessive # of hyped screenings and reactions happening for a month straight, combined with decent but not great reviews, will result in a slowdown near the end instead of a ramp up. People have had arguably too much time to digest all of the flashy reactions instead of concentrating it all to the final 2-3 weeks.

 

You still need to give it another day or two. Not everyone is waiting on review drops.

 

It just jumps out that it was similar across all comps, when you'd expect to see more of a convergence towards a midpoint.

 

But I do agree that the early reactions has diluted any impact of a review embargo.

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