The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[Alex SciChannel]

43 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Babylon	T-3	Jax	5	13	3	27	1,430	1.89%
		Phx	7	20	2	64	2,037	3.14%
		Ral	8	18	4	61	1,666	3.66%
	Total		20	51	9	152	5,133	2.96%
I Wanna Dance	T-3	Jax	5	15	3	62	1,454	4.26%
		Phx	7	22	9	51	2,503	2.04%
		Ral	9	25	13	87	2,579	3.37%
	Total		20	62	25	200	6,536	3.06%
M3GAN	T-17	Jax	5	20	0	7	1,758	0.40%
		Phx	5	13	0	9	2,039	0.44%
		Ral	7	14	1	13	1,817	0.72%
	Total		17	47	1	29	5,614	0.52%
Puss in Boots	T-2	Jax	6	60	45	133	6,668	1.99%
		Phx	6	54	24	63	7,034	0.90%
		Ral	7	56	46	184	6,688	2.75%
	Total		19	170	115	380	20,390	1.86%

 

Puss in Boots T-2 comps

 - Sonic 2 - .354x (1.77m)

 - Minions 2 - .327x (3.52m)

 - Lyle Lyle - 6.91x (3.97m)

 - Super Pets - 1.792x (3.94m)

 - Paw Patrol - .646x (2.92m)

 - Strange World - 6.33x (5.07m)
 - Sing 2 - .161x (1.307m)

 - Encanto - 1.57x (2.36m)

 

I Wanna Dance T-3 comps

 - Elvis - missed

 - Easter Sunday - 3.125x (1.56m)

 - Respect - 3.125x (2.03m)

 - House of Gucci - .909x (1.18m)

 - King Richard - 1.37x (2.66m)

 

Babylon T-3 comps

 - Elvis - missed

 - Bullet Train - .35x (1.17m)

 - Amsterdam - 1.448x (796k)

 - Death on the Nile - .921x (1.013m)

 - Lost City - .557x (1.39m)

 

M3GAN T-17 comps

 - Nope - .104x (665k)

 - Black Phone - .439x (1.14m)

Really hope Puss in Boots 2 makes more than Sing 2.

[Eric S'ennui]

Quorum Updates

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish T-2: 59.47% Awareness, 5.95 Interest

The Whale T-2: 26.01%, 4.91

80 for Brady T-46: 17.66%, 4.49

Creed III T-74: 46.54%, 6.26

Scream VI: 45.26%, 6.11

A Good Person T-95: 16.19%, 5.15

65 T-116: 10.88%, 5.49

Barbie T-214: 30.7%, 4.58

 

Babylon T-4: 30.72% Awareness, 5.04 Interest

Final Awareness: 42% chance of 10M

Final Interest: 43% chance of 10M

Original - High Awareness: 25% chance of 10M

Original - High Interest: 25% chance of 100M

 

I Wanna Dance with Somebody T-4: 34.85% Awareness, 5.39 Interest

Final Awareness: 42% chance of 10M

Final Interest: 43% chance of 10M

Original - Low Awareness: 73% chance of 5M, 36% chance of 10M

Original - Low Interest: 57% chance of 5M, 29% chance of 10M

[Krissykins]

Sony are now using cinema seating charts to promote tickets being on sale and they’re specifically including THURSDAY in their advertising. I’m guessing Whitney isn’t tracking well at all. 
 

Such a shame if it flops, but all signs seem to point to low interest. 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Krissykins

[filmlover]

50 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Sony are now using cinema seating charts to promote tickets being on sale and they’re specifically including THURSDAY in their advertising. I’m guessing Whitney isn’t tracking well at all. 
 

Such a shame if it flops, but all signs seem to point to low interest. 

 

 

FWIW I've been monitoring Christmas Day sales and it (and Babylon, for that matter) has sold a ton of seats already. So not total doom and gloom at least.

[M37]

Seeing some 3D shows pop up for Puss in Boots, which is interesting not just for its prospects, but also because it will mean Avatar will lose some it’s 3D shows 

[el sid]

Back .
With 17 respectively 18 days left M3gan had today 94 sold tickets for Thursday, Jan 5 (with showtimes in all 7 theaters now) and 73 sold tickets for Friday, Jan 6 (with showtimes in 6 theaters).

Comps: The Invitation had on Monday of its release week 96 respectively 87 sold tickets.

And Prey for the Devil had also on Monday of its release week 140 respectively 207 sold tickets.
 

Of course it's too early for real predictions but this looks quite promising.

[el sid]

Babylon, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, Dec 22:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 30 (3 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 14 (2 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 4 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 1 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 9 (2 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 75 (2 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 111 (6 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 244.

Comps (all counted on Monday for Thursday): BT had 879 sold tickets,

Death on the Nile had 212,

Amsterdam had 184

and TLC had 306 sold tickets.

Babylon, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, Dec 23:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 26 (3 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 16 (2 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): so far no showtimes
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 3 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 12 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 41 (4 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 47 (4 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 145.

Comps (all counted on Monday for Friday): BT had 655 sold tickets,

Death on the Nile had 198,

Amsterdam had 121

and TLC had 196 sold tickets.

Well, I expected worse presales in my theaters. Let's see how the jumps are but at the moment I think at least double digits could happen.

[cubsfan]

47 minutes ago, M37 said:

Seeing some 3D shows pop up for Puss in Boots, which is interesting not just for its prospects, but also because it will mean Avatar will lose some it’s 3D shows 

I’m guessing non-premium isn’t selling all that well. 

[JustLurking]

50 minutes ago, M37 said:

Seeing some 3D shows pop up for Puss in Boots, which is interesting not just for its prospects, but also because it will mean Avatar will lose some it’s 3D shows 

From what I am seeing in other markets, so long as it keeps the biggest/premium screens, doesn't really matter if it loses some of the worse shows.

[wboxoffice]

2 minutes ago, el sid said:

Babylon, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, Dec 22:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 30 (3 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 14 (2 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 4 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 1 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 9 (2 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 75 (2 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 111 (6 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 244.

Comps (all counted on Monday for Thursday): BT had 879 sold tickets,

Death on the Nile had 212,

Amsterdam had 184

and TLC had 306 sold tickets.

Babylon, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, Dec 23:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 26 (3 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 16 (2 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): so far no showtimes
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 3 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 12 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 41 (4 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 47 (4 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 145.

Comps (all counted on Monday for Friday): BT had 655 sold tickets,

Death on the Nile had 198,

Amsterdam had 121

and TLC had 196 sold tickets.

Well, I expected worse presales in my theaters. Let's see how the jumps are but at the moment I think at least double digits could happen.

 

Hi, do you please have the stats for "I Wanna Dance with Somebody"?  Thanks

[el sid]

I Wanna Dance with Somebody, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, Dec 22:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 31 (4 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 11 (3 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 9 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 1 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 1 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 55 (3 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 30 (4 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 138.

Comps: The Fabelmans had also on Monday of the release week 67 sold tickets.
Gucci had on Monday for Wednesday (= 1 day left for IWD) 414 sold tickets.

I Wanna Dance with Somebody, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, Dec 23:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 78 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 3 (5 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 12 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 2 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 0 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): it said today no showtimes but it had already showtimes 1-2 weeks ago, weird. Of course they will be back soon.
LA (AMC Universal): 33 (5 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 128. So with showtimes in the AMC Metreon the Friday presales would be better than those for Thursday.

Comps: The Fabelmans had also on Monday of the release week 55 sold tickets.
Respect had on Wednesday for Friday (= 2 days left for IWD) 129 sold tickets.

And King Richard had also on Wednesday for Friday (= again 2 days left) 228 sold tickets.

Not great so far but also not too bad. With good reviews it should also reach at least double digits IMO.

[wboxoffice]

18 minutes ago, el sid said:

I Wanna Dance with Somebody, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, Dec 22:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 31 (4 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 11 (3 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 9 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 1 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 1 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 55 (3 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 30 (4 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 138.

Comps: The Fabelmans had also on Monday of the release week 67 sold tickets.
Gucci had on Monday for Wednesday (= 1 day left for IWD) 414 sold tickets.

I Wanna Dance with Somebody, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, Dec 23:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 78 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 3 (5 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 12 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 2 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 0 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): it said today no showtimes but it had already showtimes 1-2 weeks ago, weird. Of course they will be back soon.
LA (AMC Universal): 33 (5 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 128. So with showtimes in the AMC Metreon the Friday presales would be better than those for Thursday.

Comps: The Fabelmans had also on Monday of the release week 55 sold tickets.
Respect had on Wednesday for Friday (= 2 days left for IWD) 129 sold tickets.

And King Richard had also on Wednesday for Friday (= again 2 days left) 228 sold tickets.

Not great so far but also not too bad. With good reviews it should also reach at least double digits IMO.

Thanks, I hope things pick up in the last couple of days…

[wboxoffice]

23 minutes ago, el sid said:

I Wanna Dance with Somebody, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, Dec 22:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 31 (4 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 11 (3 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 9 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 1 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 1 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 55 (3 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 30 (4 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 138.

Comps: The Fabelmans had also on Monday of the release week 67 sold tickets.
Gucci had on Monday for Wednesday (= 1 day left for IWD) 414 sold tickets.

I Wanna Dance with Somebody, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, Dec 23:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 78 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 3 (5 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 12 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 2 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 0 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): it said today no showtimes but it had already showtimes 1-2 weeks ago, weird. Of course they will be back soon.
LA (AMC Universal): 33 (5 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 128. So with showtimes in the AMC Metreon the Friday presales would be better than those for Thursday.

Comps: The Fabelmans had also on Monday of the release week 55 sold tickets.
Respect had on Wednesday for Friday (= 2 days left for IWD) 129 sold tickets.

And King Richard had also on Wednesday for Friday (= again 2 days left) 228 sold tickets.

Not great so far but also not too bad. With good reviews it should also reach at least double digits IMO.

Weird, when I go online on AMC Metreon they list it for Friday with many reserved seats…

[TwoMisfits]

2nd local - the non PLF set for Dec 21 and 23 today...

 

Since the weekend drop for Avatar is being considered, I will say this local is dropping showings and 1 of the large theater size to the smallest size.  For now, here's their set...

 

Avatar - 3.5 screens/13 showings - 9 3d/4 2d (down from 20) - largest theater and 2.5 smallest size theaters (dropped the other largest for a smallest and the other was also reduced to smallest 60 seater) - so, probably about 40%ish-45%ish seat loss - don't make me do Math, but this has no PLF, so it's crappy 3d and probably didn't do well last weekend (its presales are pretty poor for Tuesday/Wednesday)...

 

For the rest:

Puss - 2 screens (12 showings - 11 2d / 1 3d) - it gets the other largest screen

Babylon - 2 screens (but 1 is smallest size)

Whitney - 1 screen

Violent Night - 1 screen

Wakanda - 1 screen

 

Still an open screen and a half...Devotion and Elf had those Wednesday and get dropped Friday, so we'll see if they hold for presales (and parcel them to the booked movies) or if they are booking a foreign film or two (they had none last weekend, which is unusual)...Spirited, Strange World, and Black Adam were dropped for the Wednesday set...

 

Edit to ADD: Oh, and I guess I should look at Saturday, and not just Friday, since Saturday has Xmas Eve show drop - Avatar will have 10 showings on Xmas Eve before going back to 13 on Xmas.  So, probably about 25% less sellable seats than Friday and Sunday, since it drops 1 of 4 large showings (and then 2 tiny ones)...

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by TwoMisfits

[Tinalera]

I cant think of the last time Ive seen the various dancing of screenings for a film, as far as increases and decreases. Now granted Xmas eve being on Sat and them cutting back shows (so the theatre employees can have their Christmas eve with families), certainly does mix things up a bit. 

 

I think the biggest thing for me (besides the overall legs), is how much business it does between Xmas and New Years and what type of legs just in that time it has. 

[interiorgatordecorator]

any specific reason why Puss is doing 3d in the usa?

[filmlover]

1 hour ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

any specific reason why Puss is doing 3d in the usa?

It's only at select theaters and only once or twice a day at most places showing it that way. Obviously Avatar is going to be top priority for 3D-equipped screens given its length.

Edited December 20, 2022 by filmlover

[Eric S'ennui]

23 hours ago, Eric The Last Airbender said:

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	113	586	16775	3.49%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 10

 

Comp

3.467x of Encanto T-3 (5.2M)

0.244x of Sing 2 T-3 (2.37M)

0.420x of Sonic 2 T-3 (2.62M)

0.901x of Lightyear T-3 (4.69M)

0.881x of Minions 2 T-3 (9.47M)

4.439x of Super Pets T-3 (9.77M)

 

Yeah I have no clue why this has picked up zero momentum. And yeah I also know that the OD for a Christmas movie isn't the end all be all, but it's still weird.

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	113	615	16775	3.67%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 29

 

Comp

2.651x of Encanto T-2 (3.98M)

0.234x of Sing 2 (2.28M)

0.347x of Sonic 2 T-2 (2.17M)

0.770x of Lightyear T-2 (4M)

0.636x of Minions 2 T-2 (6.84M)

3.534x of Super Pets T-2 (7.78M)

[Alex SciChannel]

7 minutes ago, Eric The Last Airbender said:

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	113	615	16775	3.67%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 29

 

Comp

2.651x of Encanto T-2 (3.98M)

0.234x of Sing 2 (2.28M)

0.347x of Sonic 2 T-2 (2.17M)

0.770x of Lightyear T-2 (4M)

0.636x of Minions 2 T-2 (6.84M)

3.534x of Super Pets T-2 (7.78M)

Dammit! Why isn't this movie picking up steam like I want it to? I see ads for it everywhere and WOM is spectacular.

[Eric S'ennui]

Babylon Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	28	134	3134	4.28%

 

Comp

0.086x of No Time to Die T-3 (541K)

4.467x of The Last Duel T-3 (1.56M)

0.663x of Last Night in Soho T-3 (464K)

3.722x of The 355 T-3 (1.3M)

0.905x of Death on the Nile T-3 (996K)

1.489x of Ambulance T-3 (1.04M)

0.413x of The Northman T-3 (558K)

0.694x of Unbearable Weight T-3 (580K)

0.203x of Bullet Train T-3 (934K)

0.118x of Don't Worry Darling T-3 (366K)

0.744x of Amsterdam T-3 (409K)