April 14th-16th 2023 Weekend Thread | $900K previews for Renfield

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11 hours ago, WorkingonaName said:

Tracking for dat f cinemascore 

This guy's  never heard the youtube video of the rise of skywalker audience reaction

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1 hour ago, Starrow5722 said:

It seems as though even Scream 6 wasn't safe from Mario's onslaught this time. 

was hoping it would get to 110 domestic.  But  108-109 still works

[YM!]

20 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

But since Disney has put together a string of subpar opens, why would the other animateds move?  Many have done better in the 2020s, at least by value...

 

I don't see Trolls 3 moving...it, as a series movies, has nothing to gain by letting its product "go stale" by lengthening the time from its sequel...and I doubt it cost much to make...

 

 

Still not good for either of them. Because you’d have families that would’ve gone to Trolls 3 going to Wish or KFP4 going to Elio. It decreases legs for both and minimizes OW, especially if one gets better reviews than the other. Not to mention Trolls will likely skew younger than Wish with less adult appeal.

Edited April 15, 2023 by YM!

[YM!]

42 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

It's probably better to wait until after GotG3 OW.

Wait until June. Quantumania may not be good but you need longer windows to make it uncomfortable for the GA to wait. 3 months isn’t as grueling as 4.

[TwoMisfits]

7 minutes ago, YM! said:

Still not good for either of them. Because you’d have families that would’ve gone to Trolls 3 going to Wish or KFP4 going to Elio. It decreases legs for both and minimizes OW, especially if one gets better reviews than the other.

 

Yes, but after Shazam 2 moved from Christmas, a good time, and then just got slaughtered, I can't see moving a sequel later from a great holiday week EVEN IF both hurt.  It will be a "chicken fight" that Trolls 3 will no longer play.

 

I agree both will hurt some, but in each's mind, probably better to hurt some than get destroyed.

 

And Trolls 2 cost $90M...so I imagine Trolls 3 costs $100M.  And seeing how well on PVOD Trolls 2 did, I gotta think they think they have another winner...it's the known quantity...

 

Edit to Add:  And Universal animation is on a roll.  They have to feel like the kings right now, so folks move for them, not vice versa.  And with Universal already staking Christmas, they aren't gonna move Trolls 3 closer - they staked Thanksgiving for that movie.

 

 

 

Edited April 15, 2023 by TwoMisfits

[superduperm]

A $40M Saturday would be historic but I just don’t see it happening. I’m thinking $38M which would be very good.

[XXR & Friends]

Saturday feels like a 35-36 kinda day.

[Ipickthiswhiterose]

Drops for D&D are utterly, utterly disheartening for such a solid film.

 

Prone to say I don't think there's anything that could have been done. For a mass audience the name just has too much stigma and too many negative associations. Of course it has had a renaissance as a game, but trying to play in a mass culture marketplace seems like it's not possible. The 80s and 90s were a brutal time for genre properties in terms of perception and they still have their legacy. It happy with Trek to a degree I think also. 

 

Video games, comics, superheroes and Star Wars can be mainstream culture; but anything primarily associated with that black hole of 80s and 90s nerd-dom is still toxic to many and will still pull up mental pictures/references to mom's basement/neckbeard/body odour. And D&D is right in the middle of it. It's not fair, not even close to fair. But it's what it is.

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14 minutes ago, XXR Metro Boomin said:

Saturday feels like a 35-36 kinda day.

I don't see it having that small of a jump that's almost BvS and Secrets of Dumbledore level.

[VanillaSkies]

1 hour ago, grey ghost said:

So 1 billion is pretty much locked for Mario.

 

What about 1.1 billion?

considering it hasn’t even released in Japan, Korea or much of the Middle East yet, and is having a strong OS hold this weekend, the sky is the limit at the moment…

[Grebacio]

It's interesting that Mario was once scheduled to open along Avatar 2. Good for both that Mario ended up moving.

[Pinacolada]

24 minutes ago, Ipickthiswhiterose said:

Drops for D&D are utterly, utterly disheartening for such a solid film.

 

Prone to say I don't think there's anything that could have been done. For a mass audience the name just has too much stigma and too many negative associations. Of course it has had a renaissance as a game, but trying to play in a mass culture marketplace seems like it's not possible. The 80s and 90s were a brutal time for genre properties in terms of perception and they still have their legacy. It happy with Trek to a degree I think also. 

 

Video games, comics, superheroes and Star Wars can be mainstream culture; but anything primarily associated with that black hole of 80s and 90s nerd-dom is still toxic to many and will still pull up mental pictures/references to mom's basement/neckbeard/body odour. And D&D is right in the middle of it. It's not fair, not even close to fair. But it's what it is.

Agreed with just about everything you said here. Really hard to think of how else a movie with this good of reviews and audience scores can be just tanking like a stone week to week

Edited April 15, 2023 by Pinacolada

[filmnerdjamie]

1 hour ago, John Marston said:

More  like Indiana Jones and Mission 7

 

Nah. We're overestimating Indy 5.

[John Marston]

Just now, filmnerdjamie said:

 

Nah. We're overestimating Indy 5.

 

 

Well Flash I think is the one being overestimated. Indy should be more appealing to the average person 

[wildphantom]

1 hour ago, Maggie said:

I believe we're in for a boring summer at the box office. I don't see any major breakouts (besides barbie) nor big flops. Maybe Inidiana Jones could do some exceptional numbers, but i'm starting to doubt it

I’ll take a whole bunch of mid to big hits over one or two hammering everything else. That will be a fantastic summer in my eyes and one the box office needs. 

Edited April 15, 2023 by wildphantom

[filmnerdjamie]

2 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

Well Flash I think is the one being overestimated. Indy should be more appealing to the average person 

 

The return of Michael Keaton's Batman (first time since 1992) is a bigger deal than Harrison Ford's re-return to the fedora after the iffy reactions to Indy 4.

[TigerPaw]

4 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

Well Flash I think is the one being overestimated. Indy should be more appealing to the average person 

Might be another Blade Runner situation though.

[John Marston]

7 minutes ago, filmnerdjamie said:

 

The return of Michael Keaton's Batman (first time since 1992) is a bigger deal than Harrison Ford's re-return to the fedora after the iffy reactions to Indy 4.

 

the return of an iconic  film character (Indiana Jones) where there is no substitute  should be a far bigger deal than the return of a Batman barely in his own movies and whose movies have been largely overshadowed in quality and recognition by the Christopher Nolan films. Most of todays moviegoers (think the ones that got really excited for Tobey returning as Spider-man) grew up with Bale as Batman, not Keaton 

Edited April 15, 2023 by John Marston

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20 minutes ago, Pinacolada said:

Agreed with just about everything you said here. Really hard to think of how else a movie with this good of reviews and audience scores can be just tanking like a stone week to week

Small fan base

[CaptNathanBrittles]

8 minutes ago, TigerPaw said:

Might be another Blade Runner situation though.

 

Blade Runner was never, ever remotely in the same stratosphere of popularity as Indiana Jones.

Edited April 15, 2023 by CaptNathanBrittles