Valonqar Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Barbie is what success looks like. This summer started underwhelming so we got a lot of "movie is success cause it isn't as big a flop as the other movie" and "movie is success cause it barely broke even" and "movie is success cause toys sales will make up for boxoffice loses" pretzel twists why an obvious flop somehow is not a flop, but now that the real undisputed don-need-toys don't-need-to-put-down-another-movie-to-prop-itself success is stomping on even some big movies from the past, summer is saved. Ditto Oppenheimer, another amazing success that proves that audience doesn't show up only for the lowest common denominator. if anything, these 2 and SoF have shown audience wants to see something they don't get to see often. It isn't SH fatigue it's sameness fatigue in any genre. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, grim22 said: Cult classic? A Billion dollar grosser will be a cult classic? These are the kinds of articles we've quickly come to expect due to the strike shutting down all film-related developments, making every day a slow news day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upriser7 Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Valonqar said: Barbie is what success looks like. This summer started underwhelming so we got a lot of "movie is success cause it isn't as big a flop as the other movie" and "movie is success cause it barely broke even" and "movie is success cause toys sales will make up for boxoffice loses" pretzel twists why an obvious flop somehow is not a flop, but now that the real undisputed don-need-toys don't-need-to-put-down-another-movie-to-prop-itself success is stomping on even some big movies from the past, summer is saved. Ditto Oppenheimer, another amazing success that proves that audience doesn't show up only for the lowest common denominator. if anything, these 2 and SoF have shown audience wants to see something they don't get to see often. It isn't SH fatigue it's sameness fatigue in any genre. Oppenheimer would have done like shit at boxoffice if the it wasn't directed by Nolan who does like one movie per 3 years and is likely the most popular director among GenZ,Millenials. Oppenheimer's run is more of an exception rather than norm. Same thing with SoF whose performance is an extreme outlier.....this is a movie if it was produced by A24 and released, it would have barely done 10M at boxoffice. American RW media can only prop up 1-2 movies a year Just because we are having 2-3 One Billion dollar movies doesn't mean we are back to pre-covid which I doubt is gonna happen due to steaming. Some people aren't gonna return to theatres post-covid, whereas some might visit theatres 1-2 times a year mostly for event films/big tentpoles. Repeat audience have also gone down. Highs are there but average has gone down and lows have gotten even lower Edited July 28, 2023 by upriser7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upriser7 Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 Damn...Elemental is losing like nearly 50% of shows this weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M37 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, upriser7 said: Damn...Elemental is losing like nearly 50% of shows this weekend That’s partially because Disney protected it last weekend, now taking the handcuffs off, so it’s a market correction. A lot of those dropped shows were ones played after 8pm last week, though probably losing the 7pm show at a good number of locations too. Still could see a sub-40% drop 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I'm surprised Elemental still has evening showings TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, upriser7 said: Oppenheimer would have done like shit at boxoffice if the it wasn't directed by Nolan who does like one movie per 3 years and is likely the most popular director among GenZ,Millenials. Oppenheimer's run is more of an exception rather than norm. Same thing with SoF whose performance is an extreme outlier.....this is a movie if it was produced by A24 and released, it would have barely done 10M at boxoffice. American RW media can only prop up 1-2 movies a year Just because we are having 2-3 One Billion dollar movies doesn't mean we are back to pre-covid which I doubt is gonna happen due to steaming. Some people aren't gonna return to theatres post-covid, whereas some might visit theatres 1-2 times a year mostly for event films/big tentpoles. Repeat audience have also gone down. Highs are there but average has gone down and lows have gotten even lower Yes but the first point shows that star power exists - just not among actors. Well, few actors still have it but some directors seem more reliable (Nolan, Tarantino, Cameron, now Gerwig, Peele in US). Those are the ones that captured Gen Z and Millienials. For exmaple, Cameron is the oldest of them but his Avatar movies speak to all generations. Avatar was a commentary on War on Terror. AWOW is a commentary on ecological mistreatment of a planet. Those issues interest younger members of the audience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M37 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jonwo said: I'm surprised Elemental still has evening showings TBH. SOF, MI7, Indy, Elemental & Insidious all have a more limited audience, so depending on however the local demo skews, it might be a better play than the others. But doubtful it has much of any by next week, won’t be enough room with TMNT and Meg needing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 BARBIE $21.4M 5 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevil19 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) https://deadline.com/2023/07/barbie-oppenheimer-second-weekend-box-office-haunted-mansion-1235450156/ (...) it’s another sexy $20M+ day for Barbie with an estimated $21.4M on Thursday (-7% from Wednesday) Oppenheimer made $10M yesterday, -6% from Wednesday, for a first week of $127.8M. Again, in the face of Barbie, that’s an excellent hold. Barbie is expected to gross around $70M in weekend 2, Oppenheimer is around $35M. We are hearing both pics are looking at the best second weekend presales ever. AHAHAHAHA With those Thu numbers, what kind of collapse are they anticipating on the weekend for fuck's sake? Edited July 28, 2023 by reddevil19 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 But it’s another sexy $20M+ day for Barbie with an estimated $21.4M on Thursday (-7% from Wednesday), ending its first week at $258.6M. The pic should easily become the fastest female demo feature to $300M, beating the 10 days that it took Beauty and the Beast to cross. We’ll update you with Warners’ official number soon. https://deadline.com/2023/07/barbie-oppenheimer-second-weekend-box-office-haunted-mansion-1235450156/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upriser7 Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 Damn what a hold for Barbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevermore Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Is $100M second weekend possible with that Thursday? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reddevil19 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nevermore said: Is $100M second weekend possible with that Thursday? I think 85 is the floor for it atm, assuming the dailies lead to softer weekend increases, but 100 is most definitely very possible and crossing into more likely than not for me right now. Edited July 28, 2023 by reddevil19 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny2487 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 hours ago, lalalandism said: isnt it losing all plfs to haunted mansion?? no imax no dolby cheap tickets won't it affect the gross heavily compared to past july releases like dark knight? My local Regal still has Barbie on RPX screens throughout the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M37 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, reddevil19 said: Barbie is expected to gross around $70M in weekend 2, Oppenheimer is around $35M. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, nevermore said: Is $100M second weekend possible with that Thursday? Oh yeah, my gold account is coming along nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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efialtes76 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, reddevil19 said: I think 85 is the floor for it atm, assuming the dailies lead to softer weekend increases, but 100 is most definitely very possible and crossing into more likely than not for me right now. 97.4M with TDK's second weekend internal multiplier. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
