Weekday numbers July 24-27

[keysersoze123]

15 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

It is not silly. He's developing Wakanda spin-offs and produced Iron Heart. he isn't just tied up with movies but with D+ shows. BP came out in 2018 and WF in 2022. That's 4 years between them. Even with covid situation he could have worked on something else in between. Nolan's TDK came out in 2008, Inception in 2010 and TDKR in 2012. So he had a huge movie in between sequels. Coogler didn't attempt even a small movie. 

 

But anyway, not you, someone seems upset that Gerwig is doing better (well, barbie boxoffice) than Peele which makes no sense cause Peele chose horror comedy genre which has limitations. He isn't competing with Gerwig and vice versa.

I agree with this. Peele is niche though domestically his name has value. Coogler should have some value. I hope he makes something else next. 

 

That said Russo bros are trying different things after Endgame and they cannot even get a well reviewed movie out. 

[Ororo Munroe]

27 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

It is not silly. He's developing Wakanda spin-offs and produced Iron Heart. he isn't just tied up with movies but with D+ shows. BP came out in 2018 and WF in 2022. That's 4 years between them. Eveb with covid situation he could have worked on something else in between. Nilan's TDK came out in 2008, Inception in 2010 and TDKR in 2012. So he had a huge movie in between sequels. Coogler didn't attempt even a small movie. 

Sorry but this is even sillier. Coogler has produced like 4 or 5 projects in the last few years, including Judas and the Black Messiah and a couple of documentaries. He hasn't just been sitting around doing nothing or just focused on Marvel stuff. But also, you remember than Chadwick Boseman died in 2020 yes? He and Coogler were very close and just writing and directing WF must have been taken a lot for him. Expecting him to direct another movie or criticizing him for not doing so is wild. 

Edited July 28, 2023 by Ororo Munroe

[Ororo Munroe]

2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I agree with this. Peele is niche though domestically his name has value. Coogler should have some value. I hope he makes something else next. 

 

That said Russo bros are trying different things after Endgame and they cannot even get a well reviewed movie out. 

Are we going to act like Coogler didn't direct two acclaimed movies before Black Panther? Acting like he's just known for Marvel or hasn't done anything else is hilarious.

[Valonqar]

5 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I agree with this. Peele is niche though domestically his name has value. Coogler should have some value. I hope he makes something else next. 

 

That said Russo bros are trying different things after Endgame and they cannot even get a well reviewed movie out. 

 

Or a show. That Priyanka and Madden spy show whose name escapes me is a flop.

Edited July 28, 2023 by Valonqar

[keysersoze123]

Just now, Ororo Munroe said:

Are we going to act like Coogler didn't direct two acclaimed movies before Black Panther? Acting like he's just known for Marvel or hasn't done anything else is hilarious.

I am not questioning his talent. I am wondering about his pull outside franchise at this point. Fruitvale station was a niche indie movie. Creed was spin off from Rocky movies that was very well received and broke out big. And they were before BP and so it was before he was well known. its like Nolan with Memento/Insomnia. Even during Prestige his name did not mean that much(though I saw it on big screen as director of Batman Begins). It took TDK for his name to mean something. Coogler should have used the huge BO from BP to do something else before 2nd movie but I understand with Chadwick's shocking death and COVID, things did not go according to the plan. Longer you wait the impact will go down. Let us see how things go for his next movie unless its another MCU flick. 

[Ororo Munroe]

2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I am not questioning his talent. I am wondering about his pull outside franchise at this point. Fruitvale station was a niche indie movie. Creed was spin off from Rocky movies that was very well received and broke out big. And they were before BP and so it was before he was well known. its like Nolan with Memento/Insomnia. Even during Prestige his name did not mean that much(though I saw it on big screen as director of Batman Begins). It took TDK for his name to mean something. Coogler should have used the huge BO from BP to do something else before 2nd movie but I understand with Chadwick's shocking death and COVID, things did not go according to the plan. Longer you wait the impact will go down. Let us see how things go for his next movie unless its another MCU flick. 

So this must mean you're also wondering about Greta's pull as well? Coogler has plenty of time to make all different kind of movies, being known as the director who's produced nothing but successful projects is not going to lose its impact any time soon. And he 's making other great connections outside of just directing. Criticizing him for not fitting in a movie in between two other movies (simply because Nolan did that lol) is incredibly nitpicky to say the least. 

[mldardy]

45 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

It is not silly. He's developing Wakanda spin-offs and produced Iron Heart. he isn't just tied up with movies but with D+ shows. BP came out in 2018 and WF in 2022. That's 4 years between them. Even with covid situation he could have worked on something else in between. Nolan's TDK came out in 2008, Inception in 2010 and TDKR in 2012. So he had a huge movie in between sequels. Coogler didn't attempt even a small movie. 

 

But anyway, not you, someone seems upset that Gerwig is doing better (well, barbie boxoffice) than Peele which makes no sense cause Peele chose horror comedy genre which has limitations. He isn't competing with Gerwig and vice versa.

It is silly. You've put Coogler and now Peele into a box when they are early in their careers. You could have said the same thing about Gerwig before Barbie. You can't judge any of them until they get further along in their careers.

[eeetooki]

I am sure Coogler and Peele has been very successful but Greta's name is just more recognized for people who know nothing about movies and directors (like me). I haven't watched any of her movies but I have seen her name come up a lot. In a lot of social media posts and articles I have seen, apparently her name = quality.

Edited July 28, 2023 by eeetooki

[kayumanggi]

 

[Ipickthiswhiterose]

Without questioning Coogler's abilities as a filmmaker, which are very considerable, I would say that it's a very strong argument that staying with Marvel beyond the one Black Panther movie was a major mistake IF he had aspirations to become a Spielberg-like, Nolan-like, Cameron-like or indeed now early-career Peele or Gerwig-like figure who as a director had the potential to sell movies to audiences on name along. 

 

His value for such a thing was at its highest in the public consciousness after the double-whammy of Creed-Black Panther and IF he wanted such a career the next movie *should probably* have been his big launch personal vision original movie.

 

But that core IF is a massive IF. Maybe he wanted to spread his visions more as a producer. Maybe he loved working for Marvel. Maybe he had a personal deep connection to the BP world etc. In which case it's his career, his choice.

 

(and by the way yes Nolan did 3 Batman movies but the zeitgeist movie was the 2nd, not the 1st as was the case with Coogler, and being able to produce your own vision of DC independently for WB is very different from operating in the massive mesh of the MCU machine.)

Edited July 29, 2023 by Ipickthiswhiterose

[Shawn Robbins]

On 7/26/2023 at 2:53 PM, Shawn said:

Share your final 2nd weekend predictions by 11:59pm ET tonight for Barbie and Oppy.

 

Closest on each gets a free month of Gold tier (no ads, more likes, etc.).

 

Must quote this post so it's easy to keep track!

Congratulations to the winners, @IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son and @DAJK!

 

Out of 38 submissions, @IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son was closest on BARBIE with a prediction of $92,854,933 versus the $93,011,602 result for a difference of $156,669.

 

Out of 38 submissions, @DAJK was closest on OPPENHEIMER with a prediction of $47,338,900 versus the $46,705,630 result for a difference of $633,270.

 

BARBIE Runners-up:

 

@Derpity ($92,800,000) -- difference of $211,602

@Noctis ($93,270,000) -- difference of $258,398
@ZeeSoh ($93,530,000) -- difference of $518,398

 

OPPENHEIMER Runners-up:

@Fanboy ($47,900,000) -- difference of $1,194,370
@Ezen Baklattan ($48,000,000) -- difference of $1,294,370
@Agafin ($48,000,000) -- difference of $1,294,370

 

Full list of predictions:

 

	Barbie	$ diff	Oppenheimer	$ diff
Brainbug	96	2.988398	58	11.294370
Ezen Baklattan	94.5	1.488398	48	1.294370
upriser7	95	1.988398	50	3.294370
Sandro Mazzola	102.5	9.488398	52.5	5.794370
Dragoncaine	96.3	3.288398	53.8	7.094370
cannastop	85.2	-7.811602	51.1	4.394370
DAJK	89.64456	-3.367042	47.3389	0.633270
Derpity	92.8	-0.211602	51.5	4.794370
IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son	92.854933	-0.156669	48.909262	2.203632
Incarnadine	97.27	4.258398	55.93	9.224370
mikeymichael	87.5	-5.511602	48.3	1.594370
jeffthehat	109.5	16.488398	55.5	8.794370
The Dark Alfred	97.042	4.030398	58.042	11.336370
keysersoze123	90.553235	-2.458367	50	3.294370
ZeeSoh	93.53	0.518398	51.79	5.084370
Relevation	100.04	7.028398	60.68	13.974370
vafrow	104.3	11.288398	52.7	5.994370
Austin	88	-5.011602	50	3.294370
Mojoguy	85	-8.011602	53	6.294370
Arlborn	108.5	15.488398	59.5	12.794370
Sophia Jane	106.733254	13.721652	58.735236	12.029606
vinny2487	95.5	2.488398	43.8	-2.905630
Noctis	93.27	0.258398	48.16	1.454370
TomeRide	96.75	3.738398	51.2	4.494370
MattW	88.25025	-4.761352	48.75075	2.045120
Ryan Reynolds	120	26.988398	56	9.294370
Fanboy	90.8	-2.211602	47.9	1.194370
BestPicturePlutoNash	76.9	-16.111602	53	6.294370
Issac Newton	96	2.988398	60	13.294370
Blade Runner	83	-10.011602	41	-5.705630
M37	93.73	0.718398	51.37	4.664370
MrPink	94	0.988398	53	6.294370
Ethan Hunt	98	4.988398	56	9.294370
Aplandg	96.4	3.388398	52	5.294370
parkerthegreat	101.7	8.688398	54.6	7.894370
Guancous	101.3	8.288398	49.07	2.364370
MovieMan89	100.5	7.488398	52.5	5.794370
Agafin	87	-6.011602	48	1.294370