MLK Weekend Thread | 3-Day/4-Day Estimates: Mean Girls 28/32, Beekeeper 16.8/19.2, Wonka 8.4/10.9, Migration 6.2/8.3, Anyone 6.9/8.2

[WorkingonaName]

13 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

Ouch. The Batman v Superman of musicals has arrived. Do you all remember when that movie's huge drop was once in a lifetime? Now we get a bunch of those every year.

Zack really was the blueprint. 

[Bob Train]

16 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

Ouch. The Batman v Superman of musicals has arrived. Do you all remember when that movie's huge drop was once in a lifetime? Now we get a bunch of those every year.

BVS is still the only $100m+ opener to not hit a 2x multiplier. Seems a bit silly to compare a movie that opened to $167m to one opening around $30m.

[Jerri Blank-Diggler]

B+ Cinemascores worked for both Hunger Games: BoSS and Anyone But You this season, so Beekeeper may just sprout some legs (wings?).

 

We became Tim Meadows walk-ups tonight for a 6:00 pm showing of Mean Girls. I don't mind musicals, liked Wonka, liked Anyone But You, really like the original Mean Girls, and.... I think a "B" Cinemascore for MG '24 is generous. It is just not good. It is subpar at seamlessly integrating the songs into the action. Most of them don't drive the narrative forward, they slow it down abruptly. To be fair, a couple of songs work and feel as organic as big dance numbers about Apex Predators can be, but they are in the minority. The music burns up so much of the runtime that everything else feels like a YouTube highlights version of the original movie. Our audience started to audibly groan when new songs started, and someone yelled "Thank You!" to the biggest audience laughter of the showing when one character acted like they were about to break out into song but then didn't. The only Fetch-Grool presence in the whole thing is Renee Rapp, who is dynamite.

Edited January 13 by Jerri Blank-Diggler

[Eric the Minion]

Just a reminder to everybody that you have until this Tuesday to submit your list for the Disney 100 countdown. You have to PM in order for it to count, and you just need a minimum of 10. So you have no excuse not to participate!

 

 

[JimmyB]

1 hour ago, Speedorito said:

B Cinemascore for Mean Girls confirmed. Plus a 72% verified audience score. The original will remain iconic.

 

[Rorschach]

7 minutes ago, Eric George said:

Just a reminder to everybody that you have until this Tuesday to submit your list for the Disney 100 countdown. You have to PM in order for it to count, and you just need a minimum of 10. So you have no excuse not to participate!

 

 

[Krissykins]

Are… people talking about BVS on the Saturday morning of Mean Girls’ opening weekend? 
 

[CJohn]

29 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Are… people talking about BVS on the Saturday morning of Mean Girls’ opening weekend? 
 

Classic BOT. Wait until Saturday night when we discuss The Last Jedi.

[grim22]

4 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Classic BOT. Wait until Saturday night when we discuss The Last Jedi.

Last Jedi was the last movie before The Colour Purple released during the Christmas holidays to get an A Cinemascore and not get a 3x multiple from OW.

[JustLurking]

5 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Last Jedi was the last movie before The Colour Purple released during the Christmas holidays to get an A Cinemascore and not get a 3x multiple from OW.

Technically speaking TCP is over 5x its OW 😉

Edited January 13 by JustLurking

[fastlane]

4 hours ago, JimmyB said:

 

not them filing a copyright claim to take the video down 😭

 

[Issac Newton]

Guntur Kaaram

 

Quite Frontloaded - $1.4M Premieres + $384K True Friday 

 

$1,783,955 OD ~ 556 locs

 

Hanuman

 

$904,374 OD (incl $385K Previews) ~ 403 locs

[Valonqar]

TCP and MG have the same problem (pro tip: it isn't musical). They are remakes of stone cold classics. Both Spileberg's TCP and original MG are iconic. Everyone knows Fetch. A remake of an iconic movie has an uphill battle. It has to be as good or better and even then people may not want to pay again for something they've seen 1000 times, just because it now has different cast (that they may not like) and somewhat different take (ditto). That is also why Wonka didn't suffer from musical bait and switch. It wasn't Charlie&the Chocolate Factory remake but a prequel, a "new" thing.  

[Valonqar]

6 hours ago, Jerri Blank-Diggler said:

B+ Cinemascores worked for both Hunger Games: BoSS and Anyone But You this season, so Beekeeper may just sprout some legs (wings?).

 

 

Hutchersonaissance is real. Turns FNAF into a megahit. Saves Beekeeper. Low key saves BOSAS by association. His powah:

 

[BadOlCatSylvester]

33 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

Hutchersonaissance is real. Turns FNAF into a megahit. Saves Beekeeper. Low key saves BOSAS by association. His powah:

 

[Valonqar]

I'm unironically thrilled that he's back. Talk about written off too soon. 💪

[RyneOh1040]

59 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

TCP and MG have the same problem (pro tip: it isn't musical). They are remakes of stone cold classics. Both Spileberg's TCP and original MG are iconic. Everyone knows Fetch. A remake of an iconic movie has an uphill battle. It has to be as good or better and even then people may not want to pay again for something they've seen 1000 times, just because it now has different cast (that they may not like) and somewhat different take (ditto). That is also why Wonka didn't suffer from musical bait and switch. It wasn't Charlie&the Chocolate Factory remake but a prequel, a "new" thing.  

think it’s a pretty big fallacy to compare them this way. the color purple had multiple factors working against it, and the spielberg property wasn’t one of them. you have what many see as a black targeted film, in a busy season, that also happens to be a musical. it simply had an audience cap which is reflected in the glowing reviews, great cinema score and audience scores, and bad legs. mean girls suffers from something similar. a young female white targeted film with pretty good reviews that is also a musical. wonka has four quadrant appeal, fits right into the ‘holiday vibe’ corridor in which it’s released, and is a musical. but musicals aren’t a monolith. the cast of wonkas net is just so so much wider. 

Edited January 13 by RyneOh1040

[Joyous Legion]

5 hours ago, grim22 said:

Last Jedi was the last movie before The Colour Purple released during the Christmas holidays to get an A Cinemascore and not get a 3x multiple from OW.

 

5 hours ago, JustLurking said:

Technically speaking TCP is over 5x its OW 😉

An excellent point.  
 

TLJ did 2.1x OWeek whereas TCP will miss so much as 1.45x — Jedi redeemed by facts and logic

[filmlover]

Probably no chance that Mean Girls is as frontloaded as The Color Purple was but at the same time it's likely frontloaded enough that it has no chance of matching the unadjusted $86M total of the OG Mean Girls nearly 20 years ago. Ho-hum.

[Kon]

19 minutes ago, RyneOh1040 said:

think it’s a pretty big fallacy to compare them this way. the color purple had multiple factors working against it, and the spielberg property wasn’t one of them. you have what many see as a black targeted film, in a busy season, that also happens to be a musical. it simply had an audience cap which is reflected in the glowing reviews, great cinema score and audience scores, and bad legs. mean girls suffers from something similar. a young female white targeted film with pretty good reviews that is also a musical. wonka has four quadrant appeal, fits right into the ‘holiday vibe’ corridor in which it’s released, and is a musical. but musicals aren’t a monolith. the cast of wonkas net is just so so much wider. 

 

In The Color Purple's case, the cap wasn't just  due to this film being a black targeted film. The demographics show people under 25 seems to just avoid this movie (male audience was pretty small too but that was always expected).

 

Instead, the demographics for Mean Girls seems to have more variety. The demographics shows that the bigger audience are women under 25 (honestly, it surprised me so many young people were interested). If the legs are bad, it would likely be due to a poor reception.

Edited January 13 by Kon