Fourth of July/Despicable Me 4 Weekend Thread | 122.61M 5-Day Opening

[todos]

How bad will the hurricane in southern United States now and tracking towards Midwest then to the North East affect DM4’s legs?

Edited July 8 by todos

[emoviefan]

So nice to go away  for 10 hours and and see a movie and get out in the real world and come back to whatever the hell has been going on here  on this thread. Never change BO Theory. Never change.

[ZeeSoh]

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[Cooper Legion]

57 minutes ago, todos said:

How bad will the hurricane in southern United States now and tracking towards Midwest then to the North East affect DM4’s legs?

Negligible

[titanic2187]

10 hours ago, Insomnia said:

Yeah that's exactly how I was feeling about this weekend. Everything outside of DM4, except Bad Boys, was a little less than I anticipated. Figured IO2 would be closer to 35, AQP closer to 30 and MaXXXine over 10.

 

Next weekend could make up for it though and be bigger than anticipated. When I was looking ahead to summer I saw the July 12 weekend as a dead frame but Fly Me to the Moon looks like it could surprise.

At least a sure fire hit like DM4 isn’t impacted by IO2. I mean, “something gotta breakout” theory kind of work in favour of IO2, the movie capitalise on the underutilised cinema in the past 2 months. When the breakout happened, it didn’t cause much collateral damage to BBDL and DW4, this is how a healthy market should work. I doubt DW4 would have been this stable draw if Garfield surprise back in May.

[Jaxon5]

7 hours ago, grey ghost said:

 

Furious 7 had a bigger Chinese market and inflation.

Inflation was only 3 years, no where near enough to counteract Avengers 3d benefit whilst it was simply more popular in china at the time than Avengers was. Tickets sold, Furious 7 was likely much higher

[Jaxon5]

5 hours ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Furious 7 would be in that spot had it made 6 million more, but it didn't

True, but it was still more impressive

[KP1025]

7 minutes ago, Jaxon5 said:

Inflation was only 3 years, no where near enough to counteract Avengers 3d benefit whilst it was simply more popular in china at the time than Avengers was. Tickets sold, Furious 7 was likely much higher

 

It had a 3D release in China at least, its biggest market.

[Claire of Themyscira]

3 hours ago, ZeeSoh said:

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But, do you stan TWICE?

[Jaxon5]

5 hours ago, filmlover said:

Re: the Gladiator II/Wicked showdown: it won't be another Barbenheimer and no one should expect it to be. Actually, the combo I would look to for these movies as a direct comparison instead are Happy Feet and Casino Royale, where you had a family-friendly musical vs. an adult-targeted action film on the same pre-Thanksgiving weekend in 2006 and both ending up as hits together. That said, without even a trailer for Gladiator yet, I would easily expect Wicked to win this battle since the Wizard of Oz IP overall is arguably stronger, it'll be the first family film in a while, and Universal is already looking to sell it like a major event film, especially for its female target demos.

Oz the Great and the powerful only made 493m WW and that had alot of hype and looked far more interesting. Wicked being a musical will dampen it's gross imo. Looking more like another Mary Poppins than a huge blockbuster. Gladiator I believe has the higher ceiling because it will be more fresh with the male crowd. 

 

Wicked seems like something that would usually go straight to Netflix

 

Edited July 8 by Jaxon5

[titanic2187]

18 hours ago, grey ghost said:

I thought DM2 was the weakest in the series.

 

Maybe DM3 paid for it.

But DM2 is the only movie in the franchise that got nominated for best animated feature at the Oscar. And, the wider scope is, the only illumination movie that got nominated. 

[Krissykins]

BOM has The Watchers at $32m international, The Numbers has it at $13m. Does anyone know which one is correct? 

[SchumacherFTW]

7 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

But DM2 is the only movie in the franchise that got nominated for best animated feature at the Oscar. And, the wider scope is, the only illumination movie that got nominated. 

That was a very weak year 

[grey ghost]

22 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

But DM2 is the only movie in the franchise that got nominated for best animated feature at the Oscar. And, the wider scope is, the only illumination movie that got nominated. 

 

Sometimes movies are nominated due to a lack of animated movies to select from.

 

The Croods were also nominated that year.

[abracadabra1998]

10 hours ago, JimmyB said:

I think Longlegs is going to perform very similar to Maxxxine.  The 7pm showing Thursday has decent sales but Friday and Saturday are dead and Its playing in small auditoriums.   Cinephiles are buying early but I doubt it has much walkup business like Maxxxine. 

Yep, can definitely smell the disappointment coming from the high expectations being put on it right now 

[THUNDER BIRD]

1 hour ago, titanic2187 said:

But DM2 is the only movie in the franchise that got nominated for best animated feature at the Oscar. And, the wider scope is, the only illumination movie that got nominated. 

Wait WHAT?? 

[AniNate]

There was basically Frozen and everything else (though personally Ernest and Celestine should've won)

[Chaz]

3 hours ago, Jaxon5 said:

Oz the Great and the powerful only made 493m WW and that had alot of hype and looked far more interesting. Wicked being a musical will dampen it's gross imo. Looking more like another Mary Poppins than a huge blockbuster. Gladiator I believe has the higher ceiling because it will be more fresh with the male crowd. 

 

Wicked seems like something that would usually go straight to Netflix

 

Wicked has grossed $1.6 billion on Broadway, the #2 show of all time, beaten only by The Lion King, which has grossed $1.9 billion. The soundtrack is the #2 Broadway recording of the century, beaten only by Hamilton. It’ll be more Mamma Mia than Oz the Great and Powerful.

Edited July 8 by Chaz

[Jaxon5]

17 minutes ago, Chaz said:

Wicked has grossed $1.6 billion on Broadway, the #2 show of all time, beaten only by The Lion King, which has grossed $1.9 billion. The soundtrack is the #2 Broadway recording of the century, beaten only by Hamilton. It’ll be more Mamma Mia than Oz the Great and Powerful.

Their grosses are pretty similar with the exception of the UK's massive overperfomance for Mamma Mia. 173m is crazy. 

[cannastop]

1 hour ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Wait WHAT?? 

yeah I mean the Academy isn't enthralled by Illumination