Passengers | Chris Pratt, Jennifer Lawrence | Dec 21, 2016 | Trailer pg 70

[ddddeeee]

This might be the most 'Thomas Newman' Thomas Newman score there is.

 

Forunately, I love Thomas Newman.

[marveldcfox]

8 hours ago, trifle said:

 

The movie has a $100 M budget after tax credits. 

 

Jen has been a draw overseas for some time. 

 

If the movie truly is bad (which I doubt) no star could make it a blockbuster.  But that people have to make up absurdly high budget numbers even after the RT rating really makes me wonder what their angle might be.

Sony is lying. You don't get 50-60 million tax credit. Maximum 30 million. This probably got 20-30M in tax credits so most likely is 130-140M budget.

[misafeco]

5 minutes ago, marveldcfox said:

Sony is lying. You don't get 50-60 million tax credit. Maximum 30 million. This probably got 20-30M in tax credits so most likely is 130-140M budget.

You can question all the budget reports by studios these days if you want.

[Cochofles]

120 or 160 million won't make a difference: it will be a money-losing proposition for the studio. 

[XO21]

+ or - Ghostbusters budget means $300m to break even

Edited December 17, 2016 by XO21

[robertman2]

4 minutes ago, XO21 said:

+ or - Ghostbusters budget means $300m to break even

So a bomb is likely incoming?

[filmlover]

Box Office's long range for this has fallen from $145M to $120M and they're usually optimistic. You can start to taste the blood in the water tbh.

[amelin]

I caved and watched one two of the clips that Sony India released (this is spoiler free) and I like the way Pratt played this. Really looking forward to seeing his performance, I hope he gets to prove himself as a dramatic lead.

 

 

(Also, as a female specimen, I died a little. Holy shit.)

[misafeco]

1 hour ago, Cochofles said:

120 or 160 million won't make a difference: it will be a money-losing proposition for the studio. 

110 million according to Box Office Mojo. And it might make a difference.

[straggler]

$350 million WW is very doable.  

[Talkie]

6 hours ago, Captain H said:

If Valerian bombs I'm gonna go Liam Neeson on your ass.

 

 

:v

 

Did you see Neeson on Stephen Colbert's show last night? It opened with Neeson playing the most menacing Santa ever. "I see you...when you're sleeping. Do you understand what that means?" Not a direct quote but it gets the spirit.  

[Ezen Baklattan]

So I just found out the full plot summary, and....

 

[trifle]

 

14 hours ago, MikeQ said:

 

For the record, I appreciate all of your posts related to the movie and welcome them. I enjoyed the thread more when you were posting promotional material, clips, interviews, reception, etc - all stuff that is related to the film and its box office potential. Those kind of posts gave me more information to discuss box office and how interested general audiences may be. So cheers.

 

Peace,

Mike

 

 

thanks!  Well, these from China and Seoul, then!

 

I will spoiler tag them (they aren't spoilers, just promo shots) in consideration of people on their phones, though. I hadn't thought of that angle.

 

Spoiler

 

someone gave her dog  treats for her dog, but I'm sure there is a quarantine there for pets so I doubt Pippi was with her.

 

 

 

[trifle]

6 hours ago, marveldcfox said:

Sony is lying. You don't get 50-60 million tax credit. Maximum 30 million. This probably got 20-30M in tax credits so most likely is 130-140M budget.

 

6 hours ago, marveldcfox said:

Sony is lying. You don't get 50-60 million tax credit. Maximum 30 million. This probably got 20-30M in tax credits so most likely is 130-140M budget.

 

No, it was originally a $120M budget then Rothman came on board at Sony and tried to cut it to $90M and only partly succeeded.  And now it is being reported as $100M after tax credits, which is consistent with what was being said for a year, with extra added in for the VFX issue.  This isn't last minute scrambling.

 

And actually @shayhiri you said you had decided to like it.  Fickle!

[trifle]

4 hours ago, amelin said:

I caved and watched one two of the clips that Sony India released (this is spoiler free) and I like the way Pratt played this. Really looking forward to seeing his performance, I hope he gets to prove himself as a dramatic lead.

 

 

(Also, as a female specimen, I died a little. Holy shit.)

 

I understand he does very well.  I've only seen praise for the acting on both of their part.  I'm really excited to see this movie!

[trifle]

5 hours ago, Cochofles said:

120 or 160 million won't make a difference: it will be a money-losing proposition for the studio. 

 

I'll bet you it makes money, being defined as over $300M worldwide, or heck, I'll go $330 worldwide to bring in the higher reported budget.  Loser to donate $50 to the forums.  Are you up for it?

 

5 hours ago, filmlover said:

Box Office's long range for this has fallen from $145M to $120M and they're usually optimistic. You can start to taste the blood in the water tbh.

 

That plus overseas will still make money.  I definitely sense the feeding frenzy of certain critics, but now I guess we have to see what the actual box office will bring.

[Cochofles]

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/passengers-review-jennifer-lawrence-chris-pratts-sinster-sexless/

2 out of 5 stars

"As a directing assignment, it at least proves that The Imitation Game was no fluke: Morten Tyldum can make glossily sexless, space-cadet guff out of whatever half-baked script you throw at him. The attempts at humour are wince-inducing. Pratt does get to play a terrified conscience, a naughty schoolboy sure he’s going to be found out – but someone might have spared him the chuckle-alongs to Aurora’s lame jokes, which just make Jim seem wholly devoid of taste.

We could ask, too, what reason these characters have for leaving their Earth lives behind. The answer is that they have no lives behind, being characters – one-line resumés, sign-on opportunities for movie stars who should know better – rather than people."

 

 

What exactly has Tyldum done besides The Imitation Game that made the studio think he was a good fit for this script?

 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2016 by Cochofles

[trifle]

6 hours ago, Cochofles said:

120 or 160 million won't make a difference: it will be a money-losing proposition for the studio. 

 

39 minutes ago, trifle said:

 

I'll bet you it makes money, being defined as over $300M worldwide, or heck, I'll go $330 worldwide to bring in the higher reported budget.  Loser to donate $50 to the forums.  Are you up for it?

 

 

That plus overseas will still make money.  I definitely sense the feeding frenzy of certain critics, but now I guess we have to see what the actual box office will bring.

 

28 minutes ago, Cochofles said:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/passengers-review-jennifer-lawrence-chris-pratts-sinster-sexless/

2 out of 5 stars

"As a directing assignment, it at least proves that The Imitation Game was no fluke: Morten Tyldum can make glossily sexless, space-cadet guff out of whatever half-baked script you throw at him. The attempts at humour are wince-inducing. Pratt does get to play a terrified conscience, a naughty schoolboy sure he’s going to be found out – but someone might have spared him the chuckle-alongs to Aurora’s lame jokes, which just make Jim seem wholly devoid of taste.

We could ask, too, what reason these characters have for leaving their Earth lives behind. The answer is that they have no lives behind, being characters – one-line resumés, sign-on opportunities for movie stars who should know better – rather than people."

 

 

What exactly has Tyldum done besides The Imitation Game that made the studio think he was a good fit for this script?

 

 

 

 

so does that mean you are taking me up on my bet?

 

Spoiler

 

 

Edited December 17, 2016 by trifle

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

Michael Sheen leaves acting, Hollywood to become a full-time political activist https://t.co/PhluTXBciR pic.twitter.com/1CI8IuM5rx

— Variety (@Variety) December 17, 2016

PASSENGERS is that bad, huh? https://t.co/h8WLtJqSO7

— Guy Lodge (@GuyLodge) December 17, 2016

[trifle]

4 minutes ago, BoxOfficeChica said:

 

LOL!

 

Ok, that's funny.