#ED Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 And you think Iron Man opened to 98 million without a fanbase? I was trying to understand this on my morning commute. Gave me a headache 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 IM lll would have been a debatable disappointment if not for THE AVENGERS. And you think MOS, a reboot you had deemed failure even before it opened, deserves a WWW thread despite the fact that it's going to make more than the first two IRON MAN movies, the two HULK movies, THOR, CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER, both FANTASTIC FOUR movies, and all X-MEN movies? lol Your fanboyism blinds you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 if MOS's figure are part of this excellent Monday numbers instead of took another big hit, I guess some people won't even be bothered to mention whether a film that makes 700 WW is a success or not . Talking about MOS is fine, but to debate whether or not it is a success is really rather pointless. It's a reboot coming off a not so liked last film It opened to 128 million dollars It's on pace for at least 400 mill internationally It will make 265-290 in NA It will do 650-700 WW How can you debate whether or not this is a success? At this point, it's not a matter of opinion, it's apodictic. It's a very big success. And I didn't even like the film that much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasanahmad Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 And you think Iron Man opened to 98 million without a fanbase?Iron man was one of the lesser popular marvel heroes, the only reason is opened big is the comeback of rdj, the acting of rdj, the reviews and the first proper marvel superhero movie which has a fanbasehttp://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/01/top-100-dc-and-marvel-characters-master-list/In fact among comic book readers, hawkeye and cyclops are more popular among marvel heroes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 In the US of A : Superman Returns Attendance = Man of Steel Attendance. Yes, but the US/Canada is one market. This film blew up internationally. And since money is counted everywhere from Poland to Lichtenstein, then it's a very big hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I will find a gross under 300m for MOS disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Great numbers all around for the most part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Again, if it's at 245 M by Sunday, you think it'll just make 30 M more after that? Yea, that's impossible. That means it has a 20 mill weekend, no way it drops 60% every week after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasanahmad Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) I will find a gross under 300m for MOS disappointingRealistically on the back of superman 3, superman 4 and returns, all which were derided by audiences, anything above 250 is a success. Its not like tasm which was rebooted after 1 bad movie, superman was rebooted after 3 bad movies and a general consensus that superman as a character is boring and too powerful to be fun. In the face of that, 250+ is a successZack snyder did for superman what jj abrams did for star trek. Make it relevant again Edited June 25, 2013 by Hasan Ahmad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmnerdjamie Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 IM lll would have been a debatable disappointment if not for THE AVENGERS. And you think MOS, a reboot you had deemed failure even before it opened, deserves a WWW thread despite the fact that it's going to make more than the first two IRON MAN movies, the two HULK movies, THOR, CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER, both FANTASTIC FOUR movies, and all X-MEN movies? lol Your fanboyism blinds you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Iron man was one of the lesser popular marvel heroes, the only reason is opened big is the comeback of rdj, the acting of rdj, the reviews and the first proper marvel superhero movie which has a fanbasehttp://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/01/top-100-dc-and-marvel-characters-master-list/In fact among comic book readers, hawkeye and cyclops are more popular among marvel heroes RDJ had nothing to do with its opening. Nothing. Zilch, Nada. IM brought him back from the dead. Before that the only person giving him jobs was Joel Silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) I will find a gross under 300m for MOS disappointing You shouldn't. Before the summer started, here were the predictions for MOS in the summer game: 24Lost - $361M Filmovie - $355M Vanilla - $350M Mattrek - $340M kayumanggi - $332M Druv10 - $325M junkshop38 - $325M Jay Salahi - $324M JackO - $320M Jessie - $320M Neo - $312M CEDAR - $312M acsc1312 - $310M Newbie - $309M grim22 - $305M chasmmi - $305M RichWS - $305M iTz ED - $302M Tower - $300M Blankments Into Darkness - $300M glassfairy - $300M kitik - $295M ShawnMR - $290M iceroll - $289M Sam - $287M IronMan89 - $285M Iron Olive - $281M Punishment - $280M narniadis - $280M DAR - $280M Simionski - $280M GoffeSteel - $278M Jake Gittes - $277.1M Dexter of Suburbia - $275M TylerDurden365 - $275M Schumacher FTW - $275M baumer - $275M Michael G Scott - $270M The Stingray - $270M ChFloppit - $265M gizmo - $261M cmasterclay - $260M TLK - $260M Telemachos - $259M C00k13 - $255M Fake - $240M CJohn - $231M laguy03 - $171M Only about half of the players figured it would go over 300. Edited June 25, 2013 by baumer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derpity Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 WB might be hesitant to give MOS 2 a big budget after this. MOS not well-received, and very big drops. Plus Nolan may be trigger-shy at being heavily involved in the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Not to mention the WW predictions were mostly 450M - 700M for MoS on the BSG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasanahmad Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 WB might be hesitant to give MOS 2 a big budget after this. MOS not well-received, and very big drops. Plus Nolan may be trigger-shy at being heavily involved in the next one.Like The Dark Knight right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derpity Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Like The Dark Knight right? Batman Begins was incredibly well-received, and its drops were phenomenal. Pretty much the exact opposite of this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It's Hollywood if anything the budget will be bigger. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmnerdjamie Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 WB might be hesitant to give MOS 2 a big budget after this. MOS not well-received, and very big drops. Plus Nolan may be trigger-shy at being heavily involved in the next one. Why would they be hesitant? It's gonna do $280-$290M here and $700-$800M worldwide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Like The Dark Knight right? Errr what? BB had great legs at the box office, strong home video sales, strong audience reception, and a lot of excitement going into the sequel because everyone knew the villain would be the Joker. Man of Steel didn't have a Joker card moment and it doesn't have BB's WOM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliadiere29 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) I actually had MOS making 300 domestically and 450 overseas before it was released, so I don't know how anyone can call it flop if it makes over 700m. Edited June 25, 2013 by aliadiere29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
