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[The Futurist]

Lettiri admits the underwater mo cap tech isn t even ready and still in r& d, fuck it those sequels will be released in December 17 or 18.

[Klingo]

I'm thinking 2017. 

[lilmac]

All I want is a press release stating production has actually begun. I'm sick of all this "we're working on the foundations of the treatments of the outlines of the storyboards" crap.

 

Do you believe Avatar 2 is coming out December 2016? I don't.

Edited December 24, 2014 by lilmac

[The Panda]

Your whole post is suggesting that Avatar was a "meh" movie that got lucky ( 3d novelty factors ! shiny colors !) and the whole Avatar didn't left a mark in pop culture yaddih yaddah, I read it approximatively 7586 times on this board :

Cameron does not get lucky and Avatar had outstanding WOM weither you like it or not. It was considered as a great to fantastic movie by GA. You don't have these kind of holds just because of the 3D novelty. But the 3d played a big part in Avatar s success, I won't deny it either, it made people curious.

Cameron is an amazing storyteller and director that always pushes all the boundaries he can with each movie and the Avatar sequels won't be any different.

With that being said, Avatar 2 is not sure to be a phenomenon but Cameron doesn't make his movies to be phenomenons, he tries each time to make great fucking movies period.

And for the sequels to look amazing, it is important to have 6 or 7 years of advancement in computer power to amp everything up visually.

I was only saying Avatar hasn't held up as well as movies like Jurassic Park, Titanic, Star Wars, etc. It's not the 3D that made it a phenomenon but that the movie came off as an immersive experience people hadn't seen on film before (coating the meh story while in theaters).

Problem with waiting so long for a sequel is nobody is really getting excited about this unless you're Kal. Sure it's going to be big, but after 7 years how big?

Avatar was no doubt a phenomenon in its release (no one questions that) but how well is Avatar going to hold up, and how much are audiences going to be aching to go now that the novelty immersive 3D experience has been worn and torn by many movies following it (it's not something new and special like before). You saw it with JP1 to JP2, and that was with a shorter gap between movies.

It'll come out nearly a decade later (still not as a true brand but as a sequel to an original, the sequel will make it a brand) in a culture that rapidly changes, and an original that isn't holding up in culture as well as something as big as Avatar should have.

[DAR]

I also have my doubts about this making its release date.  And to be honest I'm kind of meh about the whole thing anyway.

[AniNate]

I bet the constant non-announcements are numbing the buzz for a lot of people. If we actually got some real forward movement I'm sure people would start getting on board

[Plain Old Tele]

Why are we assuming that the underwater scenes are for AVATAR 2?

[The Panda]

Why are we assuming that the underwater scenes are for AVATAR 2?

Are you saying its for

James Cameron's Cleopatra: Under the Nile?

[The Futurist]

Why are we assuming that the underwater scenes are for AVATAR 2?

In any case, the big plan is to shoot the three films at once a la LOTR, HOBBIT. But I really thought the underwater tech for underwater mocap was ready, they have been talking about it for so long and here Letirri seems to say it s not ready at all.

The december 2016 release date seems more and more elusive.

Edited December 24, 2014 by The Futurist

[Neo]

Without starting the testing for underwater yet might not be til 2017.

[Neo]

Why are we assuming that the underwater scenes are for AVATAR 2?

Did you read the interview?

Yes. http://i.imgur.com/sWYrQaU.jpg

[Deep Wang]

There isn't a lot of buzz now, but wait until they release that first trailer.  I'm sure it will spark up interest.

[The Panda]

Wait are they seriously shooting this in 120 fps, I couldn't stand 48 fps, 120 fps sounds like a nightmare

[The Futurist]

Avatar trailers were shit. Avatar was pure wom phenom, nothing else.

Again, the best trailer in the world doesn t give you the holds Avatar had all over the world.

Trailers are a moot point for Cameron movies.

The only marketing tool used in a Cameron movie ?

The movie itself and nothing else.

[The Panda]

Avatar trailers were shit. Avatar was pure wom phenom, nothing else.

Again, the best trailer in the world doesn t give you the holds Avatar had all over the world.

Trailers are a moot point for Cameron movies.

The only marketing tool used in a Cameron movie ?

The movie itself and nothing else.

What are you talking about? Avatar had a massive, massive marketing campaign. It opened to 70m despite the snowstorms (which helped the second weekend drop) and then WoM.

You couldn't go anywhere without seeing Avatar or hearing about it from what I remember.

[Plain Old Tele]

Wait are they seriously shooting this in 120 fps, I couldn't stand 48 fps, 120 fps sounds like a nightmare

 

Sounds like Cameron is leaning towards 48fps.

 

120fps is apparently great. Douglas Trumbull's been screening a 2D short film to demonstrate the technology and it's gotten excellent buzz.

[TServo2049]

I want to see that film, just out of curiosity...

Edited December 24, 2014 by TServo2049

[Neo]

If Avatar 2 doesn't come out December 2016, what date would you like for it to come out Summer 2017?

 

May 19

June 30

July 21 (FOX Animated Movie)

[Elessar]

Sounds like Cameron is leaning towards 48fps.

 

120fps is apparently great. Douglas Trumbull's been screening a 2D short film to demonstrate the technology and it's gotten excellent buzz.

 

As did 48fps / 60fps when Cameron demoed it. Yet in the Hobbit many apparently didn't like it. It's like "wow, looks cool but i don't want it in my movies".

 

You hit diminishing returns with 120fps. I doubt the difference between it and 60fps is easy to spot and i doubt even more that people that don't like 60fps or 48fps will like 120fps.

 

It's simple, people like the stuttering, they associate it with cinematic. It's all they ever knew. Only long exposure to new, modern technics will slowly change that, if not this generation, then next, when young, more open people, become adults themselves.

Edited December 28, 2014 by Elessar

[kitik]

If Avatar 2 doesn't come out December 2016, what date would you like for it to come out Summer 2017?

 

May 19

June 30

July 21 (FOX Animated Movie)

 

 

Step 1: figure out when the movie will actually be ready