baumer Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 The thing about Potter that bugs me is that it takes waaaaaaay too fucking long to get to Harry and Voldemorts battle. 7 book.....and I thought ROTK was bloated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Order of the Phoenix is a TV movie through and through. The worst by far. But but but, It looks so pretty! No TV movie is shot like that. CAP 2 and Thor 2 look more like TV movies to me. Edited July 16, 2014 by Jay Hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Nah, the worst is Chamber of Secrets. That is just bad. The others are all good to great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Goblet is horrible. Worst movie of the franchise. Mike Newell is the Brett Ratner of the HP franchise Nah, that is Chamber of Secrets. Order of the Phoenix is a TV movie through and through. The worst by far.All 3 are not good really, and my opinion changes from time to time on which one I think is the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 The best way to preserve the various meanderings and digressions from the book would've been a premium-cable TV series. The best way to make 7 good movies would've been to ruthlessly trim in order to emphasize the key character beats and moments. Trying to have it both ways resulted in movies that were overstuffed and skimmed past key emotional moments in order to fit as much of each book as possible into the film, relying on the viewer's deep familiarity (and love) of the books to reinforce those lackluster beats. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) The best way to preserve the various meanderings and digressions from the book would've been a premium-cable TV series. The best way to make 7 good movies would've been to ruthlessly trim in order to emphasize the key character beats and moments. Trying to have it both ways resulted in movies that were overstuffed and skimmed past key emotional moments in order to fit as much of each book as possible into the film, relying on the viewer's deep familiarity (and love) of the books to reinforce those lackluster beats. That sounds good and all, but Tele, Hollywood is more interested in the mula, than being 100% faithful to the books. Edited July 16, 2014 by Pokearcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 The best way to preserve the various meanderings and digressions from the book would've been a premium-cable TV series. The best way to make 7 good movies would've been to ruthlessly trim in order to emphasize the key character beats and moments. Trying to have it both ways resulted in movies that were overstuffed and skimmed past key emotional moments in order to fit as much of each book as possible into the film, relying on the viewer's deep familiarity (and love) of the books to reinforce those lackluster beats. I was 8 when I saw the first one opening day and I was 18 when I saw the 8th one opening day. I literally grew up with the franchise so its hard for me to not feel connected even though I never read the books. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Nah, the worst is Chamber of Secrets. That is just bad. The others are all good to great.I think COS is enjoyable apart from the horrible ending scene 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 That sounds good and all, but Tele, Hollywood is more interested in the mula, than being 100% faithful to the books. I don't care if they're faithful or not. If they wanted to make good movies, then they should've been quite a bit less faithful, at least in terms of fitting stuff in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I was 8 when I saw the first one opening day and I was 18 when I saw the 8th one opening day. I literally grew up with the franchise so its hard for me to not feel connected even though I never read the books. I actually saw the first one around my birthday, and I was really into the books as a kid, so it holds a lot of sentimental value for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 But but but, It looks so pretty! No TV movie is shot like that. CAP 2 and Thor 2 look more like TV movies to me. I think it looks ugly, the action is terribly shot and the score is a complete shambles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) I don't care if they're faithful or not. If they wanted to make good movies, then they should've been quite a bit less faithful, at least in terms of fitting stuff in. I'm sure the execs are WB are crying themselves to sleep from all the dough the Harry Potter franchise made, because it was too faithful to the books. Edited July 16, 2014 by Pokearcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 At least it was made clear there were going to BE two parts. I still can't figure out why Universal didn't mention that Back to the Future Part II was going to lead directly into Part III, or why Disney repeated THE SAME MISTAKE with Dead Man's Chest 16 years later. In both cases, the cliffhanger pissed a bunch of people off because there was no advance warning that the film wasn't going to have an ending.(Though actually, I do wonder if critics would have had just as much of a problem with BTTF2, and ESPECIALLY DMC, if "this is part one of a two-part finale" had been publicized beforehand a la DH1+2.) Were people that enraged? I loved that DMC cliffhanger. POTC was just on fire back then. The Catching Fire cliffhanger is in the book. Though I didn't like the Potter split at the time, because of how great part one was, I forgave it. Part two wasn't very good though, but that is no fault of the split and more the direction and script. The rest are jokes. No need to split Breaking Dawn or Mockingjay or Hobbit into three or Allegiant, which I think won't ever be big anyway, so it's a dumb move. And then there's Katzenberg the idiot wanting to split HTTYD3 into part 4 too. I think the disappointment might have tempered him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I'm sure the execs are WB are crying themselves to sleep from all the dough the Harry Potter franchise made, because it was too faithful to the books. But they are probably crying at the fact they should have just divided every book into 2 instead of just the final one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 The best way to preserve the various meanderings and digressions from the book would've been a premium-cable TV series. The best way to make 7 good movies would've been to ruthlessly trim in order to emphasize the key character beats and moments. Trying to have it both ways resulted in movies that were overstuffed and skimmed past key emotional moments in order to fit as much of each book as possible into the film, relying on the viewer's deep familiarity (and love) of the books to reinforce those lackluster beats. Is that why I was bored out of my mind watching the last three movies in theaters? I was ready for the series to be over, despite a major long-time fan of the books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I think it looks ugly, the action is terribly shot and the score is a complete shambles. To my memory the first 10 minutes are gorgeous. Plus the death of Black is epic and the score is wonderful in the last half of the 3rd act. To be honest I think the one thing the Potter franchise has always been is top notch technically. All have above average music and Cinematography in my mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I'm sure the execs are WB are crying themselves to sleep from all the dough the Harry Potter franchise made, because it was too faithful to the books. Sure, of course they made a lot of money. But I'm not talking financially at all. They would've made a ton of money had they made good movies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I'm sure the execs are WB are crying themselves to sleep from all the dough the Harry Potter franchise made, because it was too faithful to the books.Tele wasn't talking about the grosses they made, just about the quality or lack thereof in certain parts because of the how they were adapted. He's dead right too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Hermione shoulda naked in DH2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 To my memory the first 10 minutes are gorgeous. Plus the death of Black is epic and the score is wonderful in the last half of the 3rd act. To be honest I think the one thing the Potter franchise has always been is top notch technically. All have above average music and Cinematography in my mind. Eh, I thought the death of Sirius was woefully handled, Radcliffe was especially horrible in the aftermath. And the score is, for my money, terrible. Easily one of the worst for a movie of that size. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
