redfirebird2008 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Don't they get the money that Legendary gets? Isn't that why WB didn't care about marketing Pacific Rim much? No. Legendary gets the money. Legendary is its own production company run by Thomas Tull. In the past Legendary would help finance WB's projects and now going forward they will help finance Universal's projects. The deal for Interstellar was done before Legendary decided to stop working with WB. For Interstellar, the budget and revenue breaks down like this: Paramount - 50% cost, 100% domestic revenue WB - 25% cost, 50% international revenue Legendary - 25% cost, 50% international revenue Edited November 11, 2014 by redfirebird2008 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Better Monday than I was expecting. Makes me happy, goes to show the help of IMAX. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 For Interstellar, the budget and revenue breaks down like this: Paramount - 50% cost, 100% domestic revenue WB - 25% cost, 50% international revenue Legendary - 25% cost, 50% international revenue If thats the case than Paramount is super chill when its all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Better Monday than I was expecting. Makes me happy, goes to show the help of IMAX. I think it's more due to the quasi-holidays of Mon/Tues Veteran's Day. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Paramount - 50% cost, 100% domestic revenue WB - 25% cost, 50% international revenue Legendary - 25% cost, 50% international revenue That's super handy... where did you dig those percentages up? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 What page are the full numbers on? Interested to see what Birdman is doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) That's super handy... where did you dig those percentages up? I remember reading an article that said WB brought in Legendary for 25% of the film's cost. Since we know Paramount gave up 50% cost and 100% of the international revenue to WB, that tells us WB gave up half of their interest to Legendary. If I recall correctly, Legendary gave up their rights to Batman vs. Superman as part of the deal. Edited November 11, 2014 by redfirebird2008 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 No. Legendary gets the money. Legendary is its own production company run by Thomas Tull. In the past Legendary would help finance WB's projects and now going forward they will help finance Universal's projects. The deal for Interstellar was done before Legendary decided to stop working with WB. For Interstellar, the budget and revenue breaks down like this: Paramount - 50% cost, 100% domestic revenue WB - 25% cost, 50% international revenue Legendary - 25% cost, 50% international revenue Sounds like a pretty crap deal for Paramount... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) If thats the case than Paramount is super chill when its all said and done. IS will need to pull past $170m to break even for Paramount though (and that's not counting marketing). Edited November 11, 2014 by C00k13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Sounds like a pretty crap deal for Paramount... They have no one to blame but themselves. I couldn't believe it when the news came out that they had given international revenue to WB. Fucking insane decision. The only thing I could think of is that Paramount wanted to be domestic distributor in case it was an Oscar contender (LMAO, bad decision). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 What page are the full numbers on? Interested to see what Birdman is doing Did anyone bother to post them? If not I'll post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Paramount would've made more in the long run had they financed the whole thing themselves. I don't get why they thought the deal was a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Paramount would've made more in the long run had they financed the whole thing themselves. I don't get why they thought the deal was a good idea. Nolan wanted WB to be involved. The quote from Paramount's CEO is that WB supported Nolan a lot around the time of the Aurora shooting and he felt a lot of loyalty to them. Paramount does have Friday the 13th and South Park as guaranteed moneymakers to help them break even at some point on their Interstellar mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Title Mon, Nov. 10 2014 Locations Avg. Total Wks. Dist. 1 Interstellar $5,274,857 -57% 3,561 -- $1,481 $54,936,670 1 Paramount 2 Big Hero 6 $5,159,128 -68% 3,761 -- $1,372 $61,375,017 1 Disney 3 Fury (2014) $712,557 -53% 2,834 -479 $251 $70,109,236 4 Sony / Columbia 4 Gone Girl $656,642 -57% 2,224 -610 $295 $146,192,483 6 Fox 5 Nightcrawler $604,578 -56% 2,766 0 $219 $20,223,015 2 Open Road 6 Ouija $589,580 -53% 2,680 -219 $220 $43,914,835 3 Universal 7 St. Vincent $525,202 -60% 2,455 -97 $214 $27,580,200 5 Weinstein Company 8 John Wick $489,669 -57% 2,152 -437 $228 $35,297,485 3 Lionsgate / Summit 9 Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day $400,825 -58% 2,381 -515 $168 $59,654,115 5 Disney 10 The Book of Life (2014) $295,951 -66% 2,166 -628 $137 $45,464,879 4 Fox 11 The Judge $176,640 -61% 1,215 -727 $145 $42,745,057 5 Warner Bros. 12 The Maze Runner $154,779 -47% 1,012 -608 $153 $99,100,881 8 Fox 13 The Best of Me $151,449 -54% 1,110 -1217 $136 $24,641,826 4 Relativity Media Limited (100 — 999) # Title Mon, Nov. 10 2014 Locations Avg. Total Wks. Dist. 1 Birdman $240,864 -61% 460 229 $524 $8,338,982 4 Fox Searchlight 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squaremaster316 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Lol Abyss was never a flop, best check your posts.. 90M WW on a 70M budget is a flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 90M WW on a 70M budget is a flop. Ancillary revenues were far great then, not just VHS but TV revenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 They have no one to blame but themselves. I couldn't believe it when the news came out that they had given international revenue to WB. Fucking insane decision. The only thing I could think of is that Paramount wanted to be domestic distributor in case it was an Oscar contender (LMAO, bad decision). Yeah, obviously they can only blame themselves. Seems silly though, I mean unless they had no other choice. Ecstasy: those numbers were already posted, look at post #119. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Yeah, obviously they can only blame themselves. Seems silly though, I mean unless they had no other choice. Ecstasy: those numbers were already posted, look at post #119. Thanks. I wasn't sure. But if the page # isn't in the title then no one will know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 If not an outright flop, THE ABYSS was considered a significant disappointment at the time (financially speaking). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks. I wasn't sure. But if the page # isn't in the title then no one will know. Agreed, it should be in the title. Just letting you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...