Kvikk Lunsj Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, Sam said: Oh, so this is where you can dump poison into the well freely? Hmm, I feel particularly mischievous and in a stirry mood today so Eh, that's all I got. Peace out then. The DCU has a rivalry with shield on which one is worst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald kikyou Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Water Bottle said: Sure. But I don't see the point of Nolan vs. MCU. I don't bring up Raimi's Spiderman vs. DCEU. It's in the past. There is a new Batman and a new Spiderman now. It's the whole of DC VS Marvel , there is a point in bringing anything from now and the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Emerald kikyou said: It's the whole of DC VS Marvel , there is a point in bringing anything from now and the past. Only because the present is so hilariously lopsided. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Water Bottle Posted April 14, 2016 Community Manager Share Posted April 14, 2016 Just now, Emerald kikyou said: It's the whole of DC VS Marvel , there is a point in bringing anything from now and the past. That's not the point. I didn't say "marvel vs nolan". I said "MCU vs. Nolan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Blade helped develop an interest in Marvel movies but X-Men's success lead on to Spider-Man which was even more successful. As much as Feige and fans might want X-Men in the MCU, I personally think they work fine on their own universe. The Fantastic Four which I think Fox would be more willing to give up the rights would be a better fit in the MCU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jonwo said: Blade helped develop an interest in Marvel movies but X-Men's success lead on to Spider-Man which was even more successful. As much as Feige and fans might want X-Men in the MCU, I personally think they work fine on their own universe. The Fantastic Four which I think Fox would be more willing to give up the rights would be a better fit in the MCU Speaking as a MCU fan, I don't want the X-Men to be a part of it. Even in the comics the X-Men stuff and everything else coexisting is kind of wonky. Woulda been cool to have Jackman's Wolverine in one of the Avengers, though. Edited April 14, 2016 by Orestes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 It's interesting that this thread's title has Marvel listed first. Despite DC being before Marvel if we're going by alphabetical order and the fact that DC existed before Marvel, Marvel still is first in the title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald kikyou Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Orestes said: Only because the present is so hilariously lopsided. The present has only two movies ,I actually loved BvS but disliked MOS. And no , I have no problem with the present ( even when I was disappointed with some things ) and I'm looking forward to what comes next. These characters will outlive directors , writers and proved to stand the test of time. They are the first superheros and I will always care about their past , present and future. Just because I brought the past does not mean I'm hiding from the present no matter how much you'd like to think so Edited April 14, 2016 by Emerald kikyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Marvel also crush DC in merchandise and comic book sales. but we'll just ignore all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Orestes said: Speaking as a MCU fan, I don't want the X-Men to be a part of it. Even in the comics the X-Men stuff and everything else coexisting is kind of wonky. Woulda been cool to have Jackman's Wolverine in one of the Avengers, though. Hand of the Marvel card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronL Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Orestes said: Speaking as a MCU fan, I don't want the X-Men to be a part of it. Even in the comics the X-Men stuff and everything else coexisting is kind of wonky. Woulda been cool to have Jackman's Wolverine in one of the Avengers, though. Yeah, I mean, in theory I could understand why people would hate mutants, but love the Avengers, seeing as Mutants are a different species. However, how would the general public (in the comics) know who is a mutant and who is a mutate? Doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 1 minute ago, AaronL said: Yeah, I mean, in theory I could understand why people would hate mutants, but love the Avengers, seeing as Mutants are a different species. However, how would the general public (in the comics) know who is a mutant and who is a mutate? Doesn't make sense. Yet, we're going to see Marvel do that with the Inhumans. So they're still going in that direction, but substituting the Inhumans for the X-Men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 46 minutes ago, Telemachos said: He's got a vision -- for a ton of mediocre movies, with a couple good ones mixed in here and there. If it's so easy to have a critically and financially successful cinematic universe than why do most fail? And Sony, WB, and Fox have put out close to ten superhero movies each. How many have over 89% on RT, cause King Feige is going on five. How many have made over 1.3 billion WW? King Feige is going on four. Marvel Studios is more successful than most major studios. Sony, Paramount, and WB would kill for Marvel Studio's current portfolio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted April 14, 2016 Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 1 minute ago, grey ghost said: If it's so easy to have a critically and financially successful cinematic universe than why do most fail? I never said it was easy, just that Marvel's chosen to go a very bland route, IMO. Nothing wrong with that, of course, and I understand some may feel differently than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Water Bottle Posted April 14, 2016 Community Manager Share Posted April 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Walt Disney said: Yet, we're going to see Marvel do that with the Inhumans. So they're still going in that direction, but substituting the Inhumans for the X-Men. Going to do that? They already did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 The best shared universe is the Lord of the Rings universe. 3 movies, perfection. ... Oh wait, it's actually 6 movies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Haven't Marvel treated the X-Men comics poorly despite the fact it's their best selling line. Apart from Wolverine, we've not seen any X-Men in any Marvel related animated series and games either. I don't really blame WB for focusing on Batman and Superman as that's the best selling superheroes they own, I suspect if Marvel had the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man then they would have taken priority over Iron Man, Thor etc the fact they didn't was actually a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald kikyou Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Jonwo said: Haven't Marvel treated the X-Men comics poorly despite the fact it's their best selling line. Apart from Wolverine, we've not seen any X-Men in any Marvel related animated series and games either. I don't really blame WB for focusing on Batman and Superman as that's the best selling superheroes they own, I suspect if Marvel had the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man then they would have taken priority over Iron Man, Thor etc the fact they didn't was actually a good thing. Need is the mother of invention 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, Telemachos said: I never said it was easy, just that Marvel's chosen to go a very bland route, IMO. Nothing wrong with that, of course, and I understand some may feel differently than me. Thor the Dark World really suffered from playing it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Water Bottle said: Going to do that? They already did. Yep, at least on tv. The problem is that they aren't nearly as interesting as the X-Men and sometimes even come close to seeming like a X-Men rip-off. They're just too similar and yet lack all the mythology of the X-Men. I say all this as a big fan of Agents of SHIELD; one of my favorite tv shows at the moment. Edited April 14, 2016 by Arlborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...