keysersoze123 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Dark Fate PS is at 6.11m at Maoyan(7m at cbooo if that matters). Still crazy low. but it has 85K shows at this point and so Wanda should have started PS. Let us hope it explodes to 30-35m tomorrow and go for 5x PS for OD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Frozen PS definitely on now. at 1.55m with 22791 shows. It has just under a week to go. Any comparisons @ZeeSoh/ @POTUS 2020 / @fmpro I am thinking we should use TS4, I2 and Pikachu as movies to compare? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: Frozen PS definitely on now. at 1.55m with 22791 shows. It has just under a week to go. Any comparisons @ZeeSoh/ @POTUS 2020 / @fmpro I am thinking we should use TS4, I2 and Pikachu as movies to compare? I don`t. A pretty good number IMO But with animated movies WOM is everything and PS is minimal so comparing PS gives is perfectly fine, but anything can happen after OD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: Frozen PS definitely on now. at 1.55m with 22791 shows. It has just under a week to go. Any comparisons @ZeeSoh/ @POTUS 2020 / @fmpro I am thinking we should use TS4, I2 and Pikachu as movies to compare? I havent really tracked any animated movie so I dont really have any suitable comp, but I do have Pikachu numbers which I can comp with when today’s final numbers get in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, ZeeSoh said: I havent really tracked any animated movie so I dont really have any suitable comp, but I do have Pikachu numbers which I can comp with when today’s final numbers get in. Shit. Just checked Maoyan, they updated app, earlier there was a page to see day wise pre-sales of a film. Couldn't find now. Edited November 15, 2019 by Jedi Jat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said: Shit. Just checked Maoyan, they updated app, earlier there was a page to see day wise pre-sales of a film. Couldn't find now. Yup. They did that a while back. Now when I try accessing the website on movile it redirects to some other link asking to enter user name and password. And if u try and register an account it asks for a phone number which I am not too keen on handing out. Desktop version of the website is still available but that version doesnt have any details whatsoever that the actual website did. Meaning I cant access presale numbers of any movie so will have to depend on the numbers from those movies that I and others already had tracked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: Meaning I cant access presale numbers of any movie so will have to depend on the numbers from those movies that I and others already had tracked Actually I got a way. Just trying to see if it works. Update: Yes it did. https://piaofang.maoyan.com/movie/341213/premierebox#1 Change the movie id in URL by searching the film on normal Maoyan.com Update 2: Re-checked app, now its working. So you will track it? Edited November 15, 2019 by Jedi Jat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Frozen II 7 Days Out Opening Day: ¥0.64 million (13573 shows) I thought, since the general expectations in China thread are $50-60mn, may be Ralph Breaks The Internet will be good comp but it's much bigger in pre-sales, beating Despicable Me 3 at same circle of time. Too early to call anything, but ¥35-40mn, preferably at higher end is what I think is possible, that will be the biggest pre-sales for an animation IIRC. Comps Spoiler Time Frozen II Ralph Breaks The Internet Despicable Me 3 Gross Change Gross Change Gross Change 11 Days Out ¥0.13 10 Days Out ¥0.26 ¥0.13 9 Days Out ¥0.48 ¥0.23 8 Days Out ¥0.95 ¥0.47 7 Days Out ¥0.64 ¥0.11 ¥1.48 ¥0.53 6 Days Out ¥2.40 ¥1.76 ¥0.44 ¥0.33 ¥2.20 ¥0.72 5 Days Out ¥3.58 ¥1.18 ¥0.66 ¥0.22 ¥3.06 ¥0.86 4 Days Out ¥4.63 ¥1.05 ¥0.86 ¥0.20 ¥4.09 ¥1.03 3 Days Out ¥7.23 ¥2.60 ¥1.35 ¥0.49 ¥6.05 ¥1.96 2 Days Out ¥12.48 ¥5.25 ¥2.34 ¥0.99 ¥9.34 ¥3.29 1 Day Out ¥21.14 ¥8.66 ¥3.97 ¥1.63 ¥16.17 ¥6.83 Final ¥41.47 ¥20.33 ¥7.79 ¥3.83 ¥36.48 ¥20.31 Opening Day ¥145.14 ¥28.62 ¥137.80 PSm 3.50 3.67 3.78 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said: Frozen II 7 Days Out Opening Day: ¥0.64 million (13573 shows) I thought, since the general expectations in China thread are $50-60mn, may be Ralph Breaks The Internet will be good comp but it's much bigger in pre-sales, beating Despicable Me 3 at same circle of time. Too early to call anything, but ¥35-40mn, preferably at higher end is what I think is possible, that will be the biggest pre-sales for an animation IIRC. Comps Spoiler Hide contents Time Frozen II Ralph Breaks The Internet Despicable Me 3 Gross Change Gross Change Gross Change 11 Days Out ¥0.13 10 Days Out ¥0.26 ¥0.13 9 Days Out ¥0.48 ¥0.23 8 Days Out ¥0.95 ¥0.47 7 Days Out ¥0.64 ¥0.11 ¥1.48 ¥0.53 6 Days Out ¥2.40 ¥1.76 ¥0.44 ¥0.33 ¥2.20 ¥0.72 5 Days Out ¥3.58 ¥1.18 ¥0.66 ¥0.22 ¥3.06 ¥0.86 4 Days Out ¥4.63 ¥1.05 ¥0.86 ¥0.20 ¥4.09 ¥1.03 3 Days Out ¥7.23 ¥2.60 ¥1.35 ¥0.49 ¥6.05 ¥1.96 2 Days Out ¥12.48 ¥5.25 ¥2.34 ¥0.99 ¥9.34 ¥3.29 1 Day Out ¥21.14 ¥8.66 ¥3.97 ¥1.63 ¥16.17 ¥6.83 Final ¥41.47 ¥20.33 ¥7.79 ¥3.83 ¥36.48 ¥20.31 Opening Day ¥145.14 ¥28.62 ¥137.80 PSm 3.50 3.67 3.78 Opening day for Frozen 2 in China = how much? ¥145.14?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Frozen II 6 Days Out Midnight: ¥0.16mn Opening Day: ¥2.3mn (31.75k shows) Saturday: ¥1.25mn (15.5k shows) Sunday: ¥1.05mn (13k shows) Total: ¥4.75mn Very strong start to pre-sales, biggest for an animation film, pointing toward, it's little early to say, but ¥400mn plus weekend. Let's wait for few days though. Comps Spoiler Time Frozen II Ralph Breaks The Internet Despicable Me 3 Gross Change Gross Change Gross Change 11 Days Out ¥0.13 10 Days Out ¥0.26 ¥0.13 9 Days Out ¥0.48 ¥0.23 8 Days Out ¥0.95 ¥0.47 7 Days Out ¥0.64 ¥0.11 ¥1.48 ¥0.53 6 Days Out ¥2.25 ¥1.61 ¥0.44 ¥0.33 ¥2.20 ¥0.72 5 Days Out ¥3.33 ¥1.08 ¥0.66 ¥0.22 ¥3.06 ¥0.86 4 Days Out ¥4.29 ¥0.96 ¥0.86 ¥0.20 ¥4.09 ¥1.03 3 Days Out ¥6.67 ¥2.38 ¥1.35 ¥0.49 ¥6.05 ¥1.96 2 Days Out ¥11.47 ¥4.80 ¥2.34 ¥0.99 ¥9.34 ¥3.29 1 Day Out ¥19.39 ¥7.92 ¥3.97 ¥1.63 ¥16.17 ¥6.83 Final ¥37.99 ¥18.59 ¥7.79 ¥3.83 ¥36.48 ¥20.31 Opening Day ¥132.95 ¥28.62 ¥137.80 PSm 3.50 3.67 3.78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Max Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 hours ago, ZeeSoh said: Yup. They did that a while back. Now when I try accessing the website on movile it redirects to some other link asking to enter user name and password. And if u try and register an account it asks for a phone number which I am not too keen on handing out. Desktop version of the website is still available but that version doesnt have any details whatsoever that the actual website did. Meaning I cant access presale numbers of any movie so will have to depend on the numbers from those movies that I and others already had tracked Hmm. same problem i m facing ... why they keep changing the setting of Maoyan ... 😶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Max Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jedi Jat said: Actually I got a way. Just trying to see if it works. Update: Yes it did. https://piaofang.maoyan.com/movie/341213/premierebox#1 Change the movie id in URL by searching the film on normal Maoyan.com Update 2: Re-checked app, now its working. So you will track it? Super ... i also did this for 2.0 Edited November 15, 2019 by Sunny Max 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lor15 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Jedi Jat said: Frozen II 6 Days Out Midnight: ¥0.16mn Opening Day: ¥2.3mn (31.75k shows) Saturday: ¥1.25mn (15.5k shows) Sunday: ¥1.05mn (13k shows) Total: ¥4.75mn Very strong start to pre-sales, biggest for an animation film, pointing toward, it's little early to say, but ¥400mn plus weekend. Let's wait for few days though. Comps Spoiler Reveal hidden contents Time Frozen II Ralph Breaks The Internet Despicable Me 3 Gross Change Gross Change Gross Change 11 Days Out ¥0.13 10 Days Out ¥0.26 ¥0.13 9 Days Out ¥0.48 ¥0.23 8 Days Out ¥0.95 ¥0.47 7 Days Out ¥0.64 ¥0.11 ¥1.48 ¥0.53 6 Days Out ¥2.25 ¥1.61 ¥0.44 ¥0.33 ¥2.20 ¥0.72 5 Days Out ¥3.33 ¥1.08 ¥0.66 ¥0.22 ¥3.06 ¥0.86 4 Days Out ¥4.29 ¥0.96 ¥0.86 ¥0.20 ¥4.09 ¥1.03 3 Days Out ¥6.67 ¥2.38 ¥1.35 ¥0.49 ¥6.05 ¥1.96 2 Days Out ¥11.47 ¥4.80 ¥2.34 ¥0.99 ¥9.34 ¥3.29 1 Day Out ¥19.39 ¥7.92 ¥3.97 ¥1.63 ¥16.17 ¥6.83 Final ¥37.99 ¥18.59 ¥7.79 ¥3.83 ¥36.48 ¥20.31 Opening Day ¥132.95 ¥28.62 ¥137.80 PSm 3.50 3.67 3.78 $50M ow in China would be amazing, i hope it get good wom 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Frozen 2 (6 days out) Midnight - 169k OD - 2.32m (+261%) (31869 shows) Sat - 1.38m Sun - 1.07m A very strong 2nd day. I dont have a lot of comps at this point but compared to Detective Pikachu it’s doing fairly well. Its OD is slightly behind at the same point in time but DP already had 9-10 days of PS by this point versus only the 2nd for Frozen 2. Frozen is also ahead in Sat and Sun PS. So far it is closely following The Lion king from earlier this year. TLK also started its run 7 days out like Frozen 2. Both had first day PS of around 0.64-0.68m. 2nd day OD PS for both are also very similar (2.32 for Frozen vs 2.38 for TLK). TLK went on to have a final PS of 27m Yuan and around 50+ USD opening weekend. Frozen 2 also seems to be heading to a high 20’s final PS and an opening around 50m usd if reviews are good. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 hours ago, ZeeSoh said: Frozen 2 (6 days out) Midnight - 169k OD - 2.32m (+261%) (31869 shows) Sat - 1.38m Sun - 1.07m A very strong 2nd day. I dont have a lot of comps at this point but compared to Detective Pikachu it’s doing fairly well. Its OD is slightly behind at the same point in time but DP already had 9-10 days of PS by this point versus only the 2nd for Frozen 2. Frozen is also ahead in Sat and Sun PS. So far it is closely following The Lion king from earlier this year. TLK also started its run 7 days out like Frozen 2. Both had first day PS of around 0.64-0.68m. 2nd day OD PS for both are also very similar (2.32 for Frozen vs 2.38 for TLK). TLK went on to have a final PS of 27m Yuan and around 50+ USD opening weekend. Frozen 2 also seems to be heading to a high 20’s final PS and an opening around 50m if reviews are good. 50 in dollars ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 51 minutes ago, john2000 said: 50 in dollars ? Yeah. 50m in Yuan would be disastrous lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 7 hours ago, ZeeSoh said: Yeah. 50m in Yuan would be disastrous lol lol right, forgot about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Looks like maybe 3.6-4 for today with how things have been running. Looking at the DM3 chart from @Jedi Jat, seems good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 7:23 AM, keysersoze123 said: Frozen PS definitely on now. at 1.55m with 22791 shows. It has just under a week to go. Any comparisons @ZeeSoh/ @POTUS 2020 / @fmpro I am thinking we should use TS4, I2 and Pikachu as movies to compare? Im with ZeeSoh on this. 50%+ gain today should lead to mid 20s final PS. 100m OD 350m$50m OW possible. PS needs to increase 45-50% sun thru tues to get there. F1 held well WoW w decent WoM. It should be well received. Many sequels havent improved lately, M2, T6, A dogs purpose etc. It would be nice to see F2 double F1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Frozen II 5 Days Out Date Gross in ¥ ('000) Gross in $ Change Shows / Avg Gross-to-Date Nov. 21, 2019 ¥220 $31,000 30% 1,500 $21 $31,000 Nov. 22, 2019 ¥3,700 $529,000 59% 38,000 $14 $560,000 Nov. 23, 2019 ¥2,300 $329,000 67% 19,000 $17 $889,000 Nov. 24, 2019 ¥1,490 $213,000 39% 15,700 $14 $1,102,000 Total ¥7,710 $1,102,000 56% 74,200 $15 Good Increase and towards a very good final number but its rather early to say something concrete. Putting The Lion King in comp which has better performance on 5 Days out but that was due to Maoyan error which was seen with a low Monday. Still keeping a conservative eye, it will be better to have it as a comp. Comp Spoiler Time Frozen II Ralph Breaks The Internet Despicable Me 3 The Lion King Gross Change Gross Change Gross Change Gross Change 11 Days Out ¥0.13 10 Days Out ¥0.26 ¥0.13 9 Days Out ¥0.48 ¥0.23 8 Days Out ¥0.95 ¥0.47 7 Days Out ¥0.64 ¥0.11 ¥1.48 ¥0.53 ¥0.69 6 Days Out ¥2.32 ¥1.68 ¥0.44 ¥0.33 ¥2.20 ¥0.72 ¥2.39 ¥1.70 5 Days Out ¥3.70 ¥1.38 ¥0.66 ¥0.22 ¥3.06 ¥0.86 ¥4.22 ¥1.83 4 Days Out ¥4.93 ¥1.23 ¥0.86 ¥0.20 ¥4.09 ¥1.03 ¥4.94 ¥0.72 3 Days Out ¥7.27 ¥2.34 ¥1.35 ¥0.49 ¥6.05 ¥1.96 ¥6.01 ¥1.07 2 Days Out ¥11.19 ¥3.93 ¥2.34 ¥0.99 ¥9.34 ¥3.29 ¥8.26 ¥2.25 1 Day Out ¥17.67 ¥6.48 ¥3.97 ¥1.63 ¥16.17 ¥6.83 ¥12.56 ¥4.30 Final ¥32.88 ¥15.21 ¥7.79 ¥3.83 ¥36.48 ¥20.31 ¥25.26 ¥12.70 Opening Day ¥118.37 ¥28.62 ¥137.80 ¥95.65 PSm 3.60 3.67 3.78 3.79 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...