Blaze Heatnix Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I'm being honest, I can't wait for this movie. I've always liked the series ( except for Death Wish 5 which was terrible ). I like this kind of dumb movies. I mean, I used to watch a lot of revenge action movies with Dolph Lundgren, Steven Seagal, Chuck Norris, Gary Daniels. This seems to be a better Die Hard than the last 2 Die Hards made by Willis. It also seems better than the Die Hard Day One or whatever that crap is called, that they want to do. Willis is no Bronson, and the plot is entirely different, but people should not take this movie seriously. It's just another revenge action movie. I just gave a look at some reviews on RT and this one is hilarious ( I can't believe this was written by a critic ): "Death Wish is an NRA member's wet dream, a perfect film for the America that only exists in the poisoned imagination of the pathetic would-be bully in the White House." This is a movie, and it's not a "dream". There's no "right time" to release a movie, either. It's just a dumb movie and it seems people are giving it more relevance than necessary. I don't want to go there, but I'm somehow curious. I'm really curious. I also know this is dark territory, but so be it. Replace Willis with a black actor and replace the bad guys with only white racist dudes ( all of them have to be white, by the way. ) and let's change revenge for racism. So, racism is the reason the black character is targetting the white guys. Keep everything else ( guns, violence and so on ). Will the critics react the same way? I don't know, but a different reaction would really show some true colors. That being said, this is just a movie. I'll be watching it on May, just expecting it to be another dumb action revenge movie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Politics aside....which I don't care about, I just want to see Willis blow some bad guys away. I'll be seeing it this weekend. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said: I don't want to go there, but I'm somehow curious. I'm really curious. I also know this is dark territory, but so be it. Replace Willis with a black actor and replace the bad guys with only white racist dudes ( all of them have to be white, by the way. ) and let's change revenge for racism. So, racism is the reason the black character is targetting the white guys. Keep everything else ( guns, violence and so on ). Will the critics react the same way? I don't know, but a different reaction would really show some true colors. From your description The Equalizer comes to mind, minus racism themes. It had Denzel Washington against white dudes with vigilantie theme, but critics liked it, so maybe it has something to do with it. But I thought The Equalizer was really good and I haven't seen Death Wish yet to compare them, but they do sound similar. Edited March 2, 2018 by Firepower 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Heatnix Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Firepower said: From your description The Equalizer comes to mind, minus racism themes. It had Denzel Washington against white dudes with vigilantie theme, but critics liked it, so maybe it has something to do with it. But I thought The Equalizer was really good and I haven't seen Death Wish yet to compare them. I agree. I really liked The Equalizer, though it wasn't loved by critics. At one point the movie was rotten, but got to the 60% Tomatometer. Then again, the bad guys were russians. I think there was a time when several action movies had russian villains ( John Wick 1 comes to my mind ). His best one is Man on Fire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said: That being said, this is just a movie. I'll be watching it on May, just expecting it to be another dumb action revenge movie. Which is why the reviews were always going to be shit anyway, just like most of Bruce Willis' movies for the past decade, sadly. RED 2, in 2013, was the last fun film I remember him making. Looper in 2012 was the last genuinely good one. Did people expect anything different from this one's RT? I'll end up watching this one on Netflix or something eventually but eh, I gotta confess I might get a bit bothered by many aspects of it if what some of the reviews are saying is true. This just isn't the 80's anymore, the world has moved on from some of that stuff. Edited March 2, 2018 by Arlborn 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Heatnix Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Arlborn said: Which is why the reviews were always going to be shit anyway, just like most of Bruce Willis' movies for the past decade, sadly. RED 2, in 2013, was the last fun film I remember him making. Looper in 2012 was the last genuinely good one. Did people expect anything different from this one's RT? I'll end up watching this one on Netflix or something eventually but eh, I gotta confess I might get a bit bothered by many aspects of it if what some of the reviews are saying is true. This just isn't the 80's anymore, the world has moved on from some of that stuff. I like Willis, but it seems he has gone full Steven Seagal route on dvd... This Death Wish seems to be better than most of Willis latest efforts. That's why I'm going to watch it as soon as it gets released. XD Like I said, this seems to be a dumb revenge movie. Let's see what happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Heatnix Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Sorry for the double post, but I've just noticed that the movie's music is being made by the same guy who did it for Black Panther. I'm really curious now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stingray Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Bruce Willis has been sleepwalking through the last decade, Eli Roth is a terrible director, and the movie just looks bad. I'll definitely be skipping this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Western and american elites are doing their best to offer to the Donald a second term on a silver platter. He won't have to put much of an effort, these dumb people are doing the heavy lifting for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjones1325 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) With today being a tough time where America is on the fence on reforming gun control, this was not a good time for this remake to be released at all. The subtext messages in Roth's "Death Wish" are the equivalent of the Daily Bugle going, “Is Spider-Man a menace?” It would’ve been more beneficial if Roth’s “Death Wish,” remake kept its original date of November of 2017 because um this one-note revenge action thriller that desperately wants to make a stance on gun control is not helping anyone right now. Just not now guys. FULL REVIEW HERE: https://rendyreviews.com/movies//death-wish-review Edited March 2, 2018 by rjones1325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Craig Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Grade: A- Got to see this today and I really enjoyed it. My matinee was in a 400 seater and was probably about 1/4 full at the 1:30pm showing.I can't say that I've ever seen any of the originals all the way through. I must've come across them a few times on USA Network back in the 90s but never saw a beginning or end that I can recall. I feel it was one of the more lively, engaged in the process acting efforts that Willis has given in a few years. Without a solid comparison or contrast to draw on from the originals I'll say it felt a bit like Taken with a hint of Equalizer in this incarnation. A few shots at pro-gun advocates was made but it was fairly tame and didn't distract from the film. I think the originals were in NYC but the setting here is Chicago because it is the new murder capital of America. Film is set up for a sequel. If it doesn't follow up on it, no loss. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinHyphy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Captain Craig said: Grade: A- Got to see this today and I really enjoyed it. My matinee was in a 400 seater and was probably about 1/4 full at the 1:30pm showing.I can't say that I've ever seen any of the originals all the way through. I must've come across them a few times on USA Network back in the 90s but never saw a beginning or end that I can recall. I feel it was one of the more lively, engaged in the process acting efforts that Willis has given in a few years. Without a solid comparison or contrast to draw on from the originals I'll say it felt a bit like Taken with a hint of Equalizer in this incarnation. A few shots at pro-gun advocates was made but it was fairly tame and didn't distract from the film. I think the originals were in NYC but the setting here is Chicago because it is the new murder capital of America. Film is set up for a sequel. If it doesn't follow up on it, no loss. Chicago is not even in the top twenty, but statements such as yours happen when people rely on terrible narrative fiction movies as being informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Craig Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Boo flipping hoo. Don't blame me every news outlet focuses on Chicago. I see it's #25, feel better now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieGuyKyle17 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1) You know looking from the first page of this thread to now, this movie changed a lot. 2) I might be seeing this tonight. I got Movie Pass and Red Sparrow time doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 20 hours ago, PenguinHyphy said: Chicago is not even in the top twenty, but statements such as yours happen when people rely on terrible narrative fiction movies as being informative. I give the election of Donald Trump as a perfect example of what you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 On 3/2/2018 at 9:12 AM, The Futurist said: Western and american elites are doing their best to offer to the Donald a second term on a silver platter. He won't have to put much of an effort, these dumb people are doing the heavy lifting for him. This movie looks like shit, and I hate Trump as much as anybody, but I don't like conspiracy theory nonsense from the left anymore then I do from the right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holcs Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 lmao...so this died. But saw it tonight because I wanted to see a movie and either a) I've seen everything I wanted to or B ) I just couldn't drag myself through a wrinkle in time. It is what everyone prob thought. But I don't mind watching a decently made revenge movie. It did its job...it won't be memorable, but I was entertained. Bruce had some good kills, and it's always good to see bruce have some kills. 7.5/10. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Craig Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 A sub >50% drop for Death Wish is good this weekend. Be nice to see if this could leg it's way to $50m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkshop36 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I saw it a couple of days ago. I was generally entertained. I kind of laughed at the beginning when they bring in the cop and Bruce walks in the trauma room, feels his pulse and says, that’s it he’s gone, call it, then tells the other cop that they did everything they could. LOL!! They didn’t do anything!! Working in a hospital, I’ve seen plenty of traumas. That scene wasn’t even close to reality. Other than that, it was fine. Couple of nice kills and Bruce looked like he was at least partially engaged in what was happening. B 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 It's a lot of fun. Sometimes you just want to see the good guys kill the bad guys. I enjoyed this film immensely. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
