Weekend Estimates (Page 28): Magnificent 7 35M | Storks 21.8M | Sully 13.8M | Bridget Jones 4.5M

[MovieMan89]

1 hour ago, Blair Witch failed Baumer said:

 

Denzel Washington movies are always expensive to make, he always gets $20m a film, and they usually make between $90 and $120m domestically. Studios must make a ton of money in all kinds of other mediums when it comes to Denzel Washington movies. How else to explain the budgets and his salary 4 Films that don't make that much domestically?

The thing is they're basically guaranteed to make at least that range with Denzel regardless of how appealing or unappealing the movie is, and how many other actors can say that? M7 was an unusually expensive Denzel film, probably because the studio put faith in Pratt adding an additional draw for the film. Most of the time Denzel's films aren't more than 60m and they turn a profit. Unstoppable and The Taking of Pelham have been his only ones to not be profitable the past decade. In fact, he seems to have a remake curse, since if this doesn't make a profit it will join Pelham and Manchurian Candidate as some of his only films to take losses. 

Edited September 25, 2016 by MovieMan89

[Joel M]

41 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

The thing is they're basically guaranteed to make at least that range with Denzel regardless of how appealing or unappealing the movie is, and how many other actors can say that? M7 was an unusually expensive Denzel film, probably because the studio put faith in Pratt adding an additional draw for the film. Most of the time Denzel's films aren't more than 60m and they turn a profit. Unstoppable and The Taking of Pelham have been his only ones to not be profitable the past decade. In fact, he seems to have a remake curse, since if this doesn't make a profit it will join Pelham and Manchurian Candidate as some of his only films to take losses. 

 

 

He actually has a made a few big budget films. Safe House, Unstoppable, Book of Eli, Pelham 123, Manchurian Candidate had 80-100m budgets. All of them except Safe House kinda flopped because the budget was too big for the usual Denzel BO gross to cover. But he is golden when he is working with medium budgets. 

 

forgot about American Gangster that also had a 100m budget and is Denzel's biggest hit both dom and ww.

Edited September 25, 2016 by Joel M

[UrosepsisFace]

Still haven't had a chance to see Magnificent 7 yet. I'm just glad it beat Storks. Score one for a pre-2000s genre.

 

As for Storks, I don't think it has anything to do with marketing or RT or its quality and word of mouth. Simply, birds are not very cute, at least relative to so many other animals. Secondly, storks aren't very cute in comparison to many other birds. Sorry talking-animals, you can't win them all.

 

 

Edited September 26, 2016 by UrosepsisFace

[Fancyarcher]

13 minutes ago, Joel M said:

 

 

He actually has a made a few big budget films. Safe House, Unstoppable, Book of Eli, Pelham 123, Manchurian Candidate had 80-100m budgets. All of them except Safe House kinda flopped because the budget was too big for the usual Denzel BO gross to cover. But he is golden when he is working with medium budgets. 

 

forgot about American Gangster that also had a 100m budget and is Denzel's biggest hit both dom and ww.

 

Well 80m is the average of most of Denzel's films, which probably has to do with salary and maybe shooting location / director.

Edited September 25, 2016 by Daniel Dylan Davis

[filmlover]

52 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

The thing is they're basically guaranteed to make at least that range with Denzel regardless of how appealing or unappealing the movie is, and how many other actors can say that? M7 was an unusually expensive Denzel film, probably because the studio put faith in Pratt adding an additional draw for the film. Most of the time Denzel's films aren't more than 60m and they turn a profit. Unstoppable and The Taking of Pelham have been his only ones to not be profitable the past decade. In fact, he seems to have a remake curse, since if this doesn't make a profit it will join Pelham and Manchurian Candidate as some of his only films to take losses. 

Well, those western sets and costumes ain't gonna pay for themselves...

[DAJK]

After Sunday's matinee it looks like Storks will be doing a 36.5-38M weekend at my theatre. Magnificent 7 32.5-34.5M.

[filmlover]

Mag7's opening weekend audience was 81% over 25. Young people continue to avoid the movies outside of brand titles.

[That One Girl]

11 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Mag7's opening weekend audience was 81% over 25. Young people continue to avoid the movies outside of brand titles.

 

Makes sense.  I saw it with my friend and we were the youngest in the audience.

[cookie]

2 hours ago, Joel M said:

forgot about American Gangster that also had a 100m budget and is Denzel's biggest hit both dom and ww.

 

Gangster was at the same time a Russell Crowe and Ridley Scott vehicle though. Denzel hadn't been in a major hit since Remember the Titans at that point.

[The Panda]

26 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Mag7's opening weekend audience was 81% over 25. Young people continue to avoid the movies outside of brand titles.

 

September is also just a bad time to release a movie geared at the high school - college demographic.  They're so busy getting back into school and all of the activities that go with it that there's better things to do than hit the theaters.  

 

Sure, Maze Runner and Insidious 2 are a few exceptions but even they were just modest hits.

 

Now, that's also not taking into consideration that most typical September/October films aren't geared toward a younger audience.  Westerns aren't popular with that demographic.  But I do think back to school time is a bad time for a movie geared towards the high school to college aged crowd.

[filmlover]

Just now, The Pumpkin Spiced Panda said:

 

September is also just a bad time to release a movie geared at the high school - college demographic.  They're so busy getting back into school and all of the activities that go with it that there's better things to do than hit the theaters.  

 

Sure, Maze Runner and Insidious 2 are a few exceptions but even they were just modest hits.

 

Now, that's also not taking into consideration that most typical September/October films aren't geared toward a younger audience.  Westerns aren't popular with that demographic.  But I do think back to school time is a bad time for a movie geared towards the high school to college aged crowd.

I'm pretty sure Mag7 would've had the same audience turnout no matter when it opened. Younger audiences just weren't interested.

[Jonwo]

Bridget Jones's Baby is doing superb business OS, I wonder if it can match what the previous two films did and hit $200m OS? 

[filmlover]

Just now, Jonwo said:

Bridget Jones's Baby is doing superb business OS, I wonder if it can match what the previous two films did and hit $200m OS? 

Will be interesting to see how Jack Reacher does next month in its overseas vs. domestic receipts (I'm guessing it's a sacrificial lamb on the domestic front).

[HesAPooka]

First Reacher put up 138m OS and thats with only 15m coming from China. Hard to imagine this one doing less. 

[Jonwo]

Just now, filmlover said:

Will be interesting to see how Jack Reacher does next month in its overseas vs. domestic receipts (I'm guessing it's a sacrificial lamb on the domestic front).

 

The first Jack Reacher did $138m OS but it has competition in the form of Inferno which is likely dominate and also The Girl on the Train so it'll likely do less but still over $100m. 

[cookie]

1 minute ago, Jonwo said:

 

The first Jack Reacher did $138m OS but it has competition in the form of Inferno which is likely dominate and also The Girl on the Train so it'll likely do less but still over $100m. 

 

Also Doctor Strange which is out a week earlier in most markets.

[TalismanRing]

9 hours ago, JennaJ said:

 

90m budget.

 

 

And before last week it was listed at $108m on many sites so who knows.

 

Regardless, it's O/S opening in 64 territories was $24.8m.  It might do less than Equalizers $90m O/S

 

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Magnificent Seven, The

$54,200,000

$19,200,000

$35,000,000

$59,800,000

$24,800,000

$35,000,000

SNY

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SNY

 

[TalismanRing]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

Mag7's opening weekend audience was 81% over 25. Young people continue to avoid the movies outside of brand titles.

 

It's not a movie for young kids so basically 19% of the audience was older teens to 24 yrs old which is over representing.  

[EmpireCity]

Denzel movies all make money.  He gets his salary because he delivers pretty much every single time and the studio knows they will get some sort of profit.  

 

There are only a very select few that have that sort of guarantee.  

[MovieMan89]

2 hours ago, filmlover said:

Mag7's opening weekend audience was 81% over 25. Young people continue to avoid the movies outside of brand titles.

This is nothing new. Westerns have never lived off of young audiences (I mean maybe way back in their heyday I guess). Django and True Grit were hits because of the over 25 demo.