Bob Train Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 hours ago, SpiderByte said: This and Mufasa will bomb so hard that the live-action remake era for Disney will end. TLM's underwhelming run was a warning sign, now the dam is breaking. The Moana remake will either be sent to D+, canned, or Batgirl'd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatnumRoyce Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Quote Instead of dwarfs, Disney will fill the void with a group of what they describe as “magical creatures,” according to casting sheets that TheWrap has seen. (They are currently looking for voice actors to give these creatures personality.) It’s unclear if they will inhabit the same roles as the dwarfs – will they be mining for jewels? Will they have names like Sleepy, Grumpy, and Bashful? – but these magical creatures will be the substitutes for the original seven dwarfs. https://www.thewrap.com/snow-white-peter-dinklage-disney-response/ To make the pro "this has all been an unjustified politicized freakout" case, I'll flag that the magical creatures line was always looking for voice actors implying the 7 [____] would not obviously be physically acting on set against other actors in the manner implied by the tabloid leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Furiosa Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Feel like a lot of the "overhaul" stuff seems a little confirmation bias-y? Like I definitely remember Martin Klebba saying he was going to play Grumpy back in 2020 or 2021, so the dwarfs probably were always part of the initial idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bob Train said: This and Mufasa will bomb so hard that the live-action remake era for Disney will end. TLM's underwhelming run was a warning sign, now the dam is breaking. The Moana remake will either be sent to D+, canned, or Batgirl'd. This coming after Mufasa now may make it look very slightly better in performance though. I don’t think people are truly prepared for how bad Mufasa is going to do barring shockingly good WOM. I am not ruling out a 90% decrease in WW gross. Also, TLM is one of Disney’s brightest spots at the box office this year tbh, so I wouldn’t say it has really damaged the live action brand. The 1/2 punch of Mufasa and this certainly could though. Edited October 27, 2023 by MovieMan89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Train Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, MovieMan89 said: This coming after Mufasa now may make it look very slightly better in performance though. I don’t think people are truly prepared for how bad Mufasa is going to do barring shockingly good WOM. I am not ruling out a 90% decrease in WW gross. I could see both coming in under $200m WW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdong Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 This is a bomb in the making. They just need to throw this to streaming at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Furiosa Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 *peeks around corner* I still think this will do fine. Princess stuff is Disney’s bread and butter and the kids don’t care about the “backlash” crap this is going through. *leaves before getting lectured* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Train Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Eric Fazbear said: *peeks around corner* I still think this will do fine. Princess stuff is Disney’s bread and butter and the kids don’t care about the “backlash” crap this is going through. *leaves before getting lectured* True, but I don't think kids care about Snow White...Like at all. TLK, Aladdin, BATB, TLM were way more well-known among kids when their live-action versions came out, as they hold up as crowd-pleasers even 30 years later. They also had nostalgic millennials who wanted to relive their childhoods fueling box office. But Snow White? It's respected amongst hardcore animated fans, but I really don't think it appeals to modern-day sensibilities and tastes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdong Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Eric Fazbear said: *peeks around corner* I still think this will do fine. Princess stuff is Disney’s bread and butter and the kids don’t care about the “backlash” crap this is going through. *leaves before getting lectured* Nah. Cinderella numbers is the ceiling for this one. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE knows Snow White story just like Cinderella. There’s no reason to really see the movie and see something new. But given all the controversies, this is really just a bomb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Furiosa Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bob Train said: True, but I don't think kids care about Snow White...Like at all. TLK, Aladdin, BATB, TLM were way more well-known among kids when their live-action versions came out, as they hold up as crowd-pleasers even 30 years later. They also had nostalgic millennials who wanted to relive their childhoods fueling box office. But Snow White? It's respected amongst hardcore animated fans, but I really don't think it appeals to modern-day sensibilities and tastes. Well to clarify, I’m not saying it will make as much as those movies. But something like 190, on par with Cinderella? That sounds solid to me. Like I doubt Disney expects Little Mermiad numbers, so why should I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxx93 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) This is going to be Indy 5 all over again. Reshoots and delays to try and "fix" the movie only to bomb hard at the box office anyway. Edited October 27, 2023 by Boxx93 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Train said: This and Mufasa will bomb so hard that the live-action remake era for Disney will end. TLM's underwhelming run was a warning sign, now the dam is breaking. The Moana remake will either be sent to D+, canned, or Batgirl'd. This is Greta Gerwigs first movie after Barbie. It'll do fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OncomingStorm93 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I know nothing about this upcoming remake. I've barely heard anything about it, don't have a strong opinion on the overall quality of the Disney remakes, don't know what controversies may or may not be floating around, nor do I care. What I can say is that I just saw the photo on Twitter, and was so revolted by the aesthetic that I was compelled to log back in here and say I was reminded of "Cats". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakiyyah6 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, SpiderByte said: This is Greta Gerwigs first movie after Barbie. It'll do fine. This is hardly Greta Gerwig's movie. She has a writing credit on it. We don't know how much she is involved beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said: This is hardly Greta Gerwig's movie. She has a writing credit on it. We don't know how much she is involved beyond that. And you think they won't put "from the writer of Barbie" in every promo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingonaName Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 No one sees a movie because of a writer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakiyyah6 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: And you think they won't put "from the writer of Barbie" in every promo? They can do that all they want but it won't help. The film itself will have to look appealing. If Gerwig were directing it? That would help for sure but she isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 i am haunted by this image. that poor woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OncomingStorm93 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said: No one sees a movie because of a writer. I mean, there are a couple writers that are a “brand”. Sorkin is one. And it would be a discredit to auteurs such as Tarantino and Wes Anderson to not acknowledge their writing is as iconic as their directing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Train Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 hours ago, SpiderByte said: This is Greta Gerwigs first movie after Barbie. It'll do fine. She isn't directing it. If she was, maybe it would do well. It is instead being directed by Marc Webb who has directed like 1 good movie. No one is going to see it because it was written by the same person who wrote the Barbie movie 2 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
