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1 hour ago, John Marston said:

 

 

Yeah if Gunn hasnt always acted like Mor Morality, less people would be laughing at him right now 

The Hypocrisy of Gunn's  remark is just mind blowing.

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Well done, Disney.

Pedos or scumbags who defend or joke about pedophilia, rape-culture and sexism have no place in multimillion-dollar blockbuster aimed at kids.

I am sure that Gunn will eventually be busted with child porn on his hard drive, and then everyone who defend him today will

have to rethink their fanboy obsession.

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4 minutes ago, Cochofles said:

Well done, Disney.

Pedos or scumbags who defend or joke about pedophilia, rape-culture and sexism have no place in multimillion-dollar blockbuster aimed at kids.

I am sure that Gunn will eventually be busted with child porn on his hard drive, and then everyone who defend him today will

have to rethink their fanboy obsession.

Reminds be a bit, despite the differences, of the defenders of Roman Polanski. It's the whole "He is a talented director,so the rules should not apply to him" mentality.

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19 minutes ago, Hades said:

Yeah sure......:hahaha:

I mean both made well over $700M and Disney is all bout money. I doubt they’d change the formula or rating, mainly cause they want a wider library for streaming.

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9 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Reminds be a bit, despite the differences, of the defenders of Roman Polanski. It's the whole "He is a talented director,so the rules should not apply to him" mentality.

I don't think many people defend Gunn. those tweets are crude.  It's just that the punishment doesn't match the crime

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10 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Reminds be a bit, despite the differences, of the defenders of Roman Polanski. It's the whole "He is a talented director,so the rules should not apply to him" mentality.

I’ve mentioned a few times already that I’m conflicted about Gunn’s firing, but I honestly have not seen anyone use that particular defense for him. Anyway, unless something more than tweets do come out about him, comparing this case to Roman Polanski is a bad idea. 

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12 minutes ago, Porthos said:

You must have missed the bit where I said, and repeatedly have, that I personally am not defending Gunn in this thread.

 

It's a fast moving thread, so I don't blame you.  

 

(though it was in the post of mine you just quoted.  Probably an honest oversight, however)

Apologies! Yes, it was an oversight, thank you for your charity in pointing that out.

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1 hour ago, Nova said:

Because people only get outraged over things when it's time to fit their agenda. 

 

Getting outraged over those shows having those jokes doesn't do anything. But the MAGA crowd riling up a storm and getting outraged over the tweets that Gunn sent out years ago, allows them to gain an upper hand of sorts since Gunn has been very critical of Trump and is obviously a liberal. 

 

They dont actually care that Gunn made those jokes. If they actually cared about these issues they wouldn't have voted for a person who has been accused of rape and pedophilia. What they care about is getting back at the left. That's all there is to their "outrage."

This is exactly it. The MAGA crowd has absolutely no moral center and do NOT care at all about the content of Gunn's tweets. They simply know how to rile up the opposition and this is exactly the kind of bait they knew would get the left up in a tizzy. They get everything they want from this - they know now exactly what buttons to push on the left, they got rid of one of their twitter foes and have now proven that they have the power to have someone fired from a multi-billion dollar franchise.

 

Having Gunn off GOTG3 is a good thing for the franchise surely, but the way it happened is really leaving a bad taste for the reasons above.

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Honestly, this is pretty scary. What happens if you or I ever became a prolific figure in the world or a top employee at a company? What if my forum account was dug up and I lost a job over some shit like "IS THAT HER BOYFRIEND???" I don't really have anything risque on my account outside of teenage ramblings, but what if that shit cost me a career? Gunn's jokes were a case of trying to be edgy and failing miserably, but they're not something he should have lost his job over. This isn't like Roseanne at all. Furthermore, those tweets were AGES ago. Idk. This just seems pretty extreme.

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The only useful way to bring up actual rapist like Polanski vs a situation like this (a person who made bad tweets but so far as we know hasn't actually done anything) is in discussing how public perception and sensitivity has changed. 15 years ago the entire audience gave a standing ovation to Polanski when he won Best Director and they all KNEW why he wasn't present to collect the award, yet they stood up anyways and this is including a lot of people who are now part of the #metoo movement. An off-color joke in 2003 would've been brushed aside like yesterdays news. It's just a very different time now so people who work on high profile projects need to realize that whether its right or wrong.

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19 minutes ago, Alli said:

I don't think many people defend Gunn. those tweets are crude.  It's just that the punishment doesn't match the crime

 

What else did you expect Disney to do? Kids are their main target, they don't want their brand associated with that.

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9 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

Some of you seem to be confused, like drawing comparisons between 

 

Roman Polanski

 

 

James Gunn.

 

I mean, really ?

 

:rolleyes:

 

I'm French and I'm tired of all these French defending Polanski, he must be punished for what he did, talent doesn't give you every right.

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3 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

 

What else did you expect Disney to do? Kids are their main target, they don't want their brand associated with that.

 

Marvel is owned by Disney but there's no Disney branding on the movies themselves.  Disney had no qualms about owning Miramax in the 90s/2000s, despite the fact that the division released Pulp Fiction, Trainspotting, Clerks, Kill Bill, Scary Movie, etc.

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The way France, french elites, french cinema and french government have protected Polanski make me want to puke my guts.

I was near Polanski once, the guy is so short.

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Honestly the better comparison for Gunn is probably Lars Von Trier (without the anti-semitism lol)? Someone who made a career from being controversial and edgy, and surely there is an audience for that kind of thing and I do think they should be free to make films that don't adhere to everyone's squeaky clean morality, but the jump Gunn made from bizarro horror director to Disney franchise royalty was probably too big a leap. 

 

I think he'll go back to making weird indie movies which is probably what he should be doing. 

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34 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Honestly, this is pretty scary. What happens if you or I ever became a prolific figure in the world or a top employee at a company? What if my forum account was dug up and I lost a job over some shit like "IS THAT HER BOYFRIEND???" I don't really have anything risque on my account outside of teenage ramblings, but what if that shit cost me a career? Gunn's jokes were a case of trying to be edgy and failing miserably, but they're not something he should have lost his job over. This isn't like Roseanne at all. Furthermore, those tweets were AGES ago. Idk. This just seems pretty extreme.

Yes, ages ago, he was just a kid in his mid-40s, he's grown up so much since then, how was he supposed to know that hundreds of pedophiliac and rape comments might get misinterpreted. Scary stuff, I'm going through my Facebook right now and checking for posts about raping little boys and girls just in case I become a celebrity. Weird thing though, I can't find a single post like that!

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10 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Marvel is owned by Disney but there's no Disney branding on the movies themselves.  Disney had no qualms about owning Miramax in the 90s/2000s, despite the fact that the division released Pulp Fiction, Trainspotting, Clerks, Kill Bill, Scary Movie, etc.

Miramax is dead bro...Lol. Mr Kid friendly target audience , Bob Iger killed it. Its all about action figures and kids now. RIP FOX searchlight...

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