The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[cdsacken]

I'm so excited for TROS and I am barely a star wars fan (TNG baby don't hate).

Edited November 25, 2019 by cdsacken

[Porthos]

4 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

I'm so excited for TROS and I am barely a star wars fan (TNG baby don't hate).

That's great!   Some of us swing both ways when it comes to Star fandoms. 👍

 

(More of a DS9 guy myself, but I love me some TNG as well)

Edited November 25, 2019 by Porthos

[cdsacken]

26 minutes ago, Porthos said:

That's great!   Some of us swing both ways when it comes to Star fandoms. 👍

 

(More of a DS9 guy myself, but I love me some TNG as well)

Odo was the bomb. Great captain too. So theatrical but conveyed a righteous powerful feel as well.

Edited November 26, 2019 by cdsacken

[The Wild Eric]

https://deadline.com/2019/11/frozen-2-knives-out-queen-slim-thanksgiving-box-office-1202795080/

 

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It’s going to be a really rich week for Disney’s Frozen 2, so, exhibitors expect a lot of popcorn sales.

 

Let’s start with the build of it all: Pic’s official weekend came in at $130.2M, which has we’ve been sayin’ is the best animated pic launch ever in November. Today, with 41% K-12 schools out and 14% colleges, I understand Monday will deliver around $16M for the Jennifer Lee-Chris Buck directed sequel. By the end of Thanksgiving, which will see business during the evening shows after dinner, Frozen 2 per industry estimates should stand at $200M stateside; that’s bolstered by 100% schools off on Thursday and Friday. Don’t forget, Black Friday is one of the most lucrative moviegoing days of the year. Tack on a second estimated weekend of $84M, -35%, and Frozen 2 could climb to $284M in 10 days.

 

Then Lionsgate/Media Rights Capital’s Rian Johnson-directed whodunit Knives Out should fill the bill for guys and older moviegoers. The pic already bagged $2M from 936 theaters over Friday and Saturday night previews. What’s notable about that is that most paid previews of late are boosted by Fandango, Atom Tickets or Amazon marketing. Knives Out was an organic push by major and regional exhibition partners. Previews start again tomorrow night at 7PM. Tracking is seeing $25M-$29M over the Wednesday to Sunday stretch but $30M+ isn’t unreasonable for this 96% certified fresh ensemble with Daniel Craig, Chris Evans, Jamie Lee Curtis, Ana de Armas and more. Pic, booked at 3,300 locations, cost $40M before digital print and advertising costs.

 

Universal is opening Makeready/Bron Studio’s African American drama Queen & Slim starring Daniel Kaluuya and Jodie Turner-Smith about a couple’s first date that’s thrown into disarray when a cop pulls them over. The pic, financed by Makeready for around $17M is looking to gross $12M-$16M over 5 days. RT score is at 85% fresh. Box office comparisons, which are all 3-day debuts, include Focus Features’ BlacKkKlansman ($10.8M), 20th Century Fox’s Widows ($12.3M opening), Lionsgate’s Acrimony ($17.1M opening) and Uni’s Breaking In ($17.6M).

 

Meanwhile, Sony/TriStar’s A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood is looking at a 5-day of $13M after a $13.2M opening. Broken out, the Mister Rogers Tom Hanks movie is looking at a second weekend of $8.5M, -37%.

 

[VanillaSkies]

4 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Knives out Update

MTC1 Prev - overall 672 shows 12839/96344 168363.03 130074.20 2PM 11/25
MTC2 Prev - overall 585 shows 4417/71650 49905.00 212PM 11/25
MTC1 OD - overall 1366 shows 10761/203958 134057.75 107396.30 post 6PM 727 shows 6826/110756 88875.34 69393.82 210PM 11/25
MTC2 OD- overall 1219 shows 5166/168786 47734.00 post 6PM 510 shows 2662/70837 27887.00 230PM 11/25

 

Unfortunately PS is dismal for this. Also skewed heavily in large cities(early screenings did great in NYC). So MTC2 numbers especially looks horrific. I think its all going to be driven by walk ins. I am hoping for at least 1.5m previews and 25m over 5 days. But would be happy to see it go higher. But let us see where things are tomorrow.

To be fair, a lot of theatres are only just getting their showtimes up for the 5 day stretch. 

Even Lincoln Square in NYC up until this morning didn't have any Wednesday - Sunday shows for sale for Knives, just the Tuesday previews. 

 

I think with the wonky schedule (Tuesday previews, Wednesday opening) and older audience, it's going to be an abnormal presale film. 

[ZackM]

The Rise of Skywalker - Various theater chains (Michigan) - Premiere Night Seat Report: T-24 days and counting

 

	Last Day	2 Days Ago	3 Days Ago	4 Days Ago	5 Days Ago
Showings Added	0	0	0	1	0
Seats Added	1	1	0	77	3
Seats Sold	133	94	92	~123	~123
11/25/2019	Showings	Seats Left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Pct. Sold
Total	237	28,799	41,861	13,062	31.20%

 

Keeps chugging along.

[keysersoze123]

2 hours ago, VanillaSkies said:

To be fair, a lot of theatres are only just getting their showtimes up for the 5 day stretch. 

Even Lincoln Square in NYC up until this morning didn't have any Wednesday - Sunday shows for sale for Knives, just the Tuesday previews. 

 

I think with the wonky schedule (Tuesday previews, Wednesday opening) and older audience, it's going to be an abnormal presale film. 

I compared it with Ford vs Ferrari and it looks bad. I also looked at wednesday which should behave like friday this week. But let us see how things go tomorrow and wednesday. but I would be surprised if it comes anywhere near Ford. I think star power of Bale/Damon is greater than Cap America/Bond who have rarely given hits outside franchises.

[TalismanRing]

12 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I compared it with Ford vs Ferrari and it looks bad. I also looked at wednesday which should behave like friday this week. But let us see how things go tomorrow and wednesday. but I would be surprised if it comes anywhere near Ford. I think star power of Bale/Damon is greater than Cap America/Bond who have rarely given hits outside franchises.

Yet KO did $2.03m in 936 locations on F & S early previews with the overwhelming majority of locations just doing 7pm showings.  That's around  a 1/3rd of FvF Thur preview locations with fewer showtimes and FvF made $2.1m.  Early previews just being 3 days before Tues previews and a Wed opening might be skewing things.

[keysersoze123]

5 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Yet KO did $2.03m in 936 locations on F & S early previews with the overwhelming majority of locations just doing 7pm showings.  That's around  a 1/3rd of FvF Thur preview locations with fewer showtimes and FvF made $2.1m.  Early previews just being 3 days before Tues previews and a Wed opening might be skewing things.

That is why I did not just look at previews and looked at OD PS as well. Both are dismal. As I said its doing ok in few NYC plexes but dismally elsewhere. Kind of reminds me of Gemini Man which was close to selling out PLF at big cities but did horribly elsewhere. But this has great reviews and so I am hoping for great walkins.

 

I am seeing this on thursday and so have nothing against this. But I am just comparing data of similar movies.

Edited November 26, 2019 by keysersoze123

[The Wild Eric]

Knives Out Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	29	358	3,565	10.04%

 

Comp

2.983x of Ready or Not 1 day before release (2.18M)

1.781x of Angel Has Fallen (2.67M)

1.404x of Ad Astra (2.11M)

1.729x of Rambo (2.24M)

2.069x of Ford v Ferrari (4.35M)

2.733x of Neighborhood (2.46M)

 

As always, it really depends on tomorrow's sales, but every comp being over 2M is a great sign, and hopefully will translate to great results.

[The Wild Eric]

Jumanji: The Next Level Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-17 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	1	10	136	7.35%

 

While regular showings are still unavailable to the public, there is a Game Awards/Jumanji showing happening at the one and only Cinemark I'm tracking. I guess for something that takes up a lot of hours, and so far out, 10 seats is pretty decent. But I don't have much to work with. I don't know when general tickets will go on sale, could be tomorrow, could be Friday, but I'm hoping it comes sooner rather than later.

[The Wild Eric]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-24 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	165	9,206	30,741	29.95%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 106

 

Comp

4.840x of Once Upon’s final count (28.07M)

2.658x of It: Chapter Two (27.90M)

1.875x of Joker (24.94M)

13.208x of Maleficent (30.38M)

10.569x of Terminator (24.84M)

2.739x of Frozen II (23.28M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.787x of Lion King (18.09M)

3.734x of Hobbs & Shaw (21.65M)

 

Yeah there was a decline from yesterday, but I didn't expect the movie to stay above 100, albeit barely. I don't think this will be a consistent thing, but that was a pleasant surprise. Let's see what happens the next few days.

[Porthos]

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-24 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	207	11522	24314	12792	52.61%

 

Total Showings Added Today	2
Total Seats Added Today	162
Total Seats Sold Today	92

 

T-24 Adjusted Comp #1 (EXTREMELY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-24	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	383.80		23	3185		2/81	7431/10616	30.00%		79.45m
TROS (adj)	n/a		84	12224		2/207	10828/23052	53.03%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel.

 

T-24 Adjusted Comp #2 (VERY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-24	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
IW	162.38		65	6725		1/116	4400/11125	60.45%		63.33m
TROS (adj)	n/a		80	10920		2/207	8013/18933	57.68%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Infinity War.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Infinity War had 42 days of pre-sales.

 

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Comps so far off of Final Totals of:

	%		Final Sold		TROS Sold		Comp
IW	72.04		15159		10920		28.09m
DP2	134.27		8133		10920		24.97m
Solo	188.63		5789		10920		26.60m
JW:FK	175.34		6228		10920		26.83m
AM&tW	237.13		4605		10920		27.27m
Venom	253.42		4493		11386		25.34m
CM	115.83		10553		12224		23.98m
EG	45.86		26655		12224		27.52m
TLK	111.36		10977		12224		25.61m
It 2	226.05		5659		12792		23.73m
AVG							25.99m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2019 by Porthos

[The Wild Eric]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-25 days and counting

 

Best single day in nearly a month, and the first 100+ ticket day in over two and a half weeks.  Don't know if it was the special look that dropped tonight, the TV spot on Sunday Night Football, or just a combination of ramped up promotion.  Either way, a great day no matter how it's sliced.

 

6 minutes ago, Porthos said:

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-24 days and counting

 

Best single day in nearly a month, and the first 100+ ticket day in over two and a half weeks.  Don't know if it was the special look that dropped tonight, the TV spot on Sunday Night Football, or just a combination of ramped up promotion.  Either way, a great day no matter how it's sliced.

[Porthos]

1 minute ago, Eric Plus said:

 

Sorry, forgot that was there.  Removed now.

[StarWarsMemer]

5 hours ago, Porthos said:

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-24 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	207	11522	24314	12792	52.61%

 

Total Showings Added Today	2
Total Seats Added Today	162
Total Seats Sold Today	92

 

T-24 Adjusted Comp #1 (EXTREMELY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-24	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	383.80		23	3185		2/81	7431/10616	30.00%		79.45m
TROS (adj)	n/a		84	12224		2/207	10828/23052	53.03%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel.

 

T-24 Adjusted Comp #2 (VERY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-24	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
IW	162.38		65	6725		1/116	4400/11125	60.45%		63.33m
TROS (adj)	n/a		80	10920		2/207	8013/18933	57.68%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Infinity War.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Infinity War had 42 days of pre-sales.

 

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Comps so far off of Final Totals of:

	%		Final Sold		TROS Sold		Comp
IW	72.04		15159		10920		28.09m
DP2	134.27		8133		10920		24.97m
Solo	188.63		5789		10920		26.60m
JW:FK	175.34		6228		10920		26.83m
AM&tW	237.13		4605		10920		27.27m
Venom	253.42		4493		11386		25.34m
CM	115.83		10553		12224		23.98m
EG	45.86		26655		12224		27.52m
TLK	111.36		10977		12224		25.61m
It 2	226.05		5659		12792		23.73m
AVG							25.99m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

 

 

When will you start showing more T-X comps

[jedijake]

Just curious-why does Sacramento seem to be selling so many more TROS tickets than anywhere else that is being tracked?

[MrPink]

2 minutes ago, jedijake said:

Just curious-why does Sacramento seem to be selling so many more TROS tickets than anywhere else that is being tracked?

 

Porthos is buying them all

[FlashMaster659]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-24 Days

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Seats Left	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	256	13551	53600	40049	25.28%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 110

[ZackM]

2 hours ago, jedijake said:

Just curious-why does Sacramento seem to be selling so many more TROS tickets than anywhere else that is being tracked?

Is it actually selling more tickets?  Or just a higher percentage of tickets?  It could just as easily be a matter of other areas giving TROS way more showings/seats.