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Weekend Actuals (Page 130): Cars 53.7M | Wonder Woman 41.3M | All Eyez 26.4M | Mummy 14.5M | 47 Meters 11.2M | POTC 9M | Rough Night 8M

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12 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Wonder Woman will reach at least #4 on this list making 5 of WB's top 10 movies of all time be DC superheroes

 

Studio Total Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Open
1 The Dark Knight WB $533,345,358 4,366 $158,411,483 4,366 7/18/08
2 The Dark Knight Rises WB $448,139,099 4,404 $160,887,295 4,404 7/20/12
3 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 WB $381,011,219 4,375 $169,189,427 4,375 7/15/11
4 American Sniper WB $350,126,372 3,885 $633,456 4 12/25/14
5 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice WB $330,360,194 4,256 $166,007,347 4,242 3/25/16
6 Suicide Squad WB $325,100,054 4,255 $133,682,248 4,255 8/5/16
7 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone WB $317,575,550 3,672 $90,294,621 3,672 11/16/01
8 The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey WB (NL) $303,003,568 4,100 $84,617,303 4,045 12/14/12
9 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince WB $301,959,197 4,455 $77,835,727 4,325 7/15/09
10 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 WB $295,983,305 4,125 $125,017,372 4,125 11/19/10
11 Inception WB

Seeing American Sniper ranked that high remind me of how surprising it was when American SNiper became huge hit.

Not a special-effect or action-humour packed film, just a pure mid-budget drama, but delivered some achievement that not even BvS could did that.

Mid-budget drama/comedy are dying in cinema, the huge success of the hangover, blindside, ted, american sniper, my big fat greek wedding, night at the museum, hancock and the list keep go on....are becoming harder and harder to replicate in domestic market

 

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45 minutes ago, GiantCALBears said:

I think it ends up in high $360s. I could even see it cracking $370m...where is the additional $25-$30m coming from? You buying those tickets Tele? 

 

42 minutes ago, GiantCALBears said:

That's a good ~3 million tickets more to get WW OVER the top. You guys may want to start a kick starter :D

Man, you're having a smug attitude. :apocalypse:

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12 hours ago, grim22 said:

 

Someone posted earlier that Scarlett Johansson not being on social media may be hurting her movies as she cannot promote them to her fans directly. There may actually be some validity to that line of thinking, especially in today's connected marketing space

 

 

doubt it. It doesn't seem to help that much. The Rock's social media presence didn't help Baywatch. Vin Diesel has more followers than any other actor on Facebook I believe and his non Fast and Furious movie still flop

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6 minutes ago, John Marston said:

DM3 will under perform domestically as well. People this summer are conserving their money and using it on the hyped superhero flicks mostly. 

And DUNKIRK, Valerian, Atomic Blonde.....

 

PLEASE?

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1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

And DUNKIRK, Valerian, Atomic Blonde.....

 

PLEASE?

 

 

 

Dunkirk won't reach the crazy predictions some have. Should open under Interstellar definitely

 

 

Valerian will bomb

 

 

Atomic Blonde will do OK but nothing amazing

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1 minute ago, titanic2187 said:

Mid-budget drama/comedy are dying in cinema, the huge success of the hangover, blindside, ted, american sniper, my big fat greek wedding, night at the museum, hancock and the list keep go on....are becoming harder and harder to replicate in domestic market

 

 

I<m not sure if all of those fit the mid-budget bill, Hancock was a 166 million net budget movie, an around 200 million gross budget. All the night at the museum were over 100 million production I think. Well in today world they can feel like mid budget in comparison with those 300m+ movies.

 

If we define mid budget by between 35m to 85 million, and using the-numbers as a source of budget, in the last 3 year's those are the movie that made over 100 million at the WW box office (only 60 of them), without animation and Fifty shade of grey it would look even worst (and like you said about the domestic market, many of those were world success not domestic):

 

Release Date Movie Production Budget Domestic Gross Worldwide Gross Ratio
7/10/2015 Minions $74,000,000 $336,045,770 $1,167,245,366 15.77
7/8/2016 The Secret Life of Pets $75,000,000 $368,384,330 $875,958,307 11.68
2/12/2016 Deadpool $58,000,000 $363,070,709 $783,770,709 13.51
12/21/2016 Sing $75,000,000 $270,329,045 $628,791,988 8.38
2/13/2015 Fifty Shades of Grey $40,000,000 $166,167,230 $570,998,101 14.27
2/19/2016 Mei Ren Yu $60,720,000 $3,229,457 $552,198,479 9.09
9/25/2015 Hotel Transylvania 2 $80,000,000 $169,700,110 $470,751,398 5.88
1/22/2016 Zhuo yao ji $56,000,000 $32,766 $386,096,060 6.89
2/10/2017 Fifty Shades Darker $55,000,000 $114,434,010 $376,860,515 6.85
5/20/2016 The Angry Birds Movie $73,000,000 $107,509,366 $349,336,197 4.79
1/20/2017 xXx: Return of Xander Cage $85,000,000 $44,898,413 $345,114,933 4.06
1/9/2015 Taken 3 $48,000,000 $89,256,424 $327,656,424 6.83
2/6/2015 The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water $74,000,000 $162,994,032 $311,594,032 4.21
6/10/2016 The Conjuring 2: The Enfield Poltergeist $40,000,000 $102,470,008 $311,270,008 7.78
2/10/2017 The Lego Batman Movie $80,000,000 $175,750,384 $310,940,997 3.89
9/18/2015 Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials $61,000,000 $81,697,192 $310,697,192 5.09
1/27/2017 Resident Evil: The Final Chapter $40,000,000 $26,844,692 $307,353,906 7.68
1/16/2015 Paddington $55,000,000 $76,223,578 $259,541,430 4.72
12/25/2015 Daddy’s Home $50,000,000 $150,357,137 $238,757,137 4.78
9/9/2016 Sully $60,000,000 $125,070,033 $238,552,082 3.98
6/5/2015 Spy! $65,000,000 $110,825,712 $233,125,712 3.59
9/18/2015 Everest $65,000,000 $43,309,450 $221,662,676 3.41
10/28/2016 Inferno $75,000,000 $34,355,263 $219,572,877 2.93
6/17/2016 Central Intelligence $50,000,000 $127,440,871 $217,196,811 4.34
6/26/2015 Ted 2 $68,000,000 $81,284,830 $217,022,588 3.19
9/16/2016 Bridget Jones’s Baby $35,000,000 $24,139,805 $203,555,567 5.82
11/11/2016 Arrival $47,000,000 $100,546,139 $197,929,547 4.21
9/25/2015 The Intern $40,000,000 $75,764,672 $197,232,734 4.93
2/5/2016 Xi You Ji zhi Sun Wu Kong San Da Bai Gu Jing $60,000,000 $709,982 $194,058,503 3.23
3/4/2016 London Has Fallen $60,000,000 $62,524,260 $193,857,962 3.23
4/7/2017 Smurfs: The Lost Village $60,000,000 $44,336,614 $192,951,866 3.22
4/28/2017 Baahubali 2: The Conclusion $30,000,000 $18,985,794 $184,075,552 6.14
9/23/2016 Storks $70,000,000 $72,679,278 $174,102,281 2.49
11/25/2015 Creed $37,000,000 $109,767,581 $173,567,581 4.69
10/7/2016 The Girl on the Train $45,000,000 $75,395,035 $170,327,930 3.79
2/10/2017 John Wick: Chapter Two $40,000,000 $92,029,184 $166,926,061 4.17
10/16/2015 Bridge of Spies $40,000,000 $72,313,754 $162,610,473 4.07
10/21/2016 Jack Reacher: Never Go Back $60,000,000 $58,697,076 $160,038,407 2.67
11/4/2016 Hacksaw Ridge $40,000,000 $67,209,615 $158,701,644 3.97
10/16/2015 Goosebumps $58,000,000 $80,069,458 $158,162,788 2.73
1/22/2016 Yip Man 3 $36,000,000 $2,679,437 $156,835,197 4.36
2/27/2015 Focus $65,000,000 $53,862,963 $154,362,963 2.37
10/14/2016 The Accountant $40,000,000 $86,260,045 $153,060,045 3.83
12/25/2015 The Hateful Eight $62,000,000 $54,117,416 $145,443,360 2.35
7/17/2015 Trainwreck $35,000,000 $110,038,130 $140,949,327 4.03
10/23/2015 The Last Witch Hunter $80,000,000 $27,367,660 $131,234,406 1.64
8/12/2016 Pete’s Dragon $65,000,000 $76,233,151 $128,375,539 1.98
1/15/2016 Ride Along 2 $40,000,000 $90,862,685 $124,827,316 3.12
9/4/2015 Tian jiang xiong shi $65,000,000 $74,070 $122,519,874 1.88
12/23/2016 Why Him? $38,000,000 $60,323,786 $117,523,786 3.09
1/22/2016 The 5th Wave $38,000,000 $34,912,982 $110,678,636 2.91
5/20/2016 Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising $35,000,000 $55,340,730 $108,758,521 3.11
4/17/2015 Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2 $38,000,000 $71,038,190 $107,597,242 2.83
3/27/2015 Get Hard $40,000,000 $90,411,453 $106,511,453 2.66
12/18/2015 Sisters $30,000,000 $87,044,645 $106,030,660 3.53
8/14/2015 The Man From U.N.C.L.E. $75,000,000 $45,445,109 $105,445,109 1.41
3/6/2015 Chappie $49,000,000 $31,569,268 $105,002,056 2.14
12/25/2015 Joy $60,000,000 $56,451,232 $101,134,059 1.69
7/29/2015 Vacation $31,000,000 $58,884,188 $100,655,892 3.25
5/25/2017 Baywatch $60,000,000 $53,547,500 $100,637,396 1.68

 

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22 minutes ago, baumer said:

 

I really don't see Minions as a movie with bad reception.  It opened very well and had almost a 3X.  But Minions is just part of the DM legacy.  Despicable Me 2 made back and I think people love the series.  I don't see why this one would fall 100 million from the last.  

Under 3X is pretty toxic for an animated film if you ask me. The only other animation to do under 3X in the top 30 is Shrek 3. In the top 100, only 4 other films did it, and one of them was rated R.

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3 hours ago, Goffe said:

Under 3X is pretty toxic for an animated film if you ask me. The only other animation to do under 3X in the top 30 is Shrek 3. In the top 100, only 4 other films did it, and one of them was rated R.

 

Fair enough, but Minions isn't Despicable Me.

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11 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

doubt it. It doesn't seem to help that much. The Rock's social media presence didn't help Baywatch. Vin Diesel has more followers than any other actor on Facebook I believe and his non Fast and Furious movie still flop

 

Did it really not help Baywatch ? It will make over 110 m with terrible reviews, Vin Diesel xXx: Return of Xander Cage just made 345 million and there Fast and Furious numbers are ridiculous, Kevin Hart has one of the most impressive box office run (been a while an over 2000 theater movie starring him didn<t open like crazy):

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=kevinhart.htm

 

And he has a big social media presence.

 

It is true that the link is not that clear (Emma Watson for example, seem like her giant following didn't help her movies that much) and it is certainly a case of the movie you are promoting online must match the reason why you gained those followers and their tastes say Diesel could not sell is follower a movie like Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk and Watson could more reach Harry Potter fans with other blockbuster of that genre than anything else.

 

The sample size will be so low and it would be really hard (I imagine impossible) to isolate the social media presence, but for some case I would imagine it can help (for a Louis CK directed movie that has a low marketing budget for example or Kevin Hart releasing very Kevin Harty product) and China box office is so much by ticket sold online that in that market it could be really important.

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DM 3 will likely do 250m+ DOM and over 700m OS. I actually think it has a 50/50 chance at hitting 1B. 

 

And I think people predicting Dunkirk opening under Interstellar will be surprised. The hype for it on social media is quite insane, especially considering it is an adult-driven flick. I think a 60m OW for it should happen.

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24 minutes ago, John Marston said:

DM3 will under perform domestically as well. People this summer are conserving their money and using it on the hyped superhero flicks mostly. 

 

Maybe...but it seems so far, critics are liking it (still too few to know)...and theaters are booking it...2 screens and 14 showings (this can apparently show 7x a day if you're creative with start and end times) have been saved for my 2 locals and the mall...that is more than Cars 3 ever got this weekend, and this movie could still get more.  So, it won't suffer by not getting the screens to let it break out...

 

Good reviews, possible 4 quadrants, plenty of theaters and screens, tons of showings/day...good start to a good number...

 

For the record, Cars 3 got 8 showings/day at my 2 locals and 14 showings/day at my mall for final numbers...

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Well, I was pretty certain that it was quite unlikely that Wonder Woman would increase more this Friday than it did last Friday, and it has totally proven me wrong by jumping 80%. I will gladly eat all of the crow for being wrong on that. I do wonder, perhaps, if the Saturday increase will be less than has been anticipated now, though maybe I'm just underestimating Wonder Woman yet again!

 

With Friday estimates, here is where Wonder Woman and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 sit on the all-time list for highest grossing comic book films domestically. By the end of this weekend, GOTG Vol. 2 will jump over Spider-Man 2 and sit at a terrific 8th best of all-time (where it will remain, hitting probably around $390 million total by the end of its run). And Wonder Woman will crack the top 20 by leap frogging up to 18th best of all-time and continue to climb through its extraordinary run.

 

Highest Grossing Comic Book Films

  1. Marvel’s The Avengers (2012) — 623.4 million
  2. The Dark Knight (2008) — 534.9 million
  3. Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) — 459.0 million
  4. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) — 448.1 million
  5. Iron Man 3 (2013) — 409.0 million
  6. Captain America: Civil War (2016) — 408.1 million
  7. Spider-Man (2002) — 403.7 million
  8. Spider-Man 2 (2004) — 373.6 million
  9. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) — 371.1 million^
  10. Deadpool (2016)— 363.1 million
  11. Spider-Man 3 (2007)— 336.5 million
  12. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) — 333.2 million
  13. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) — 330.4 million
  14. Suicide Squad (2016) — 325.1 million
  15. Iron Man (2008) — 318.4 million 
  16. Iron Man 2 (2010) — 312.4 million 
  17. Man of Steel (2013) — 291.0 million
  18. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) — 262.0 million
  19. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) — 259.8 million
  20. Batman (1989) — 251.2 million
  21. Men in Black (1997) — 250.7 million
  22. Wonder Woman (2017) — 244.7 million^
  23. X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) — 234.4 millon
  24. X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014) — 233.9 million
  25. Doctor Strange (2016) — 232.6 million

^As of Friday June 16th (estimates)

 

Peace,

Mike

 

 

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17 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

Maybe...but it seems so far, critics are liking it (still too few to know)...and theaters are booking it...2 screens and 14 showings (this can apparently show 7x a day if you're creative with start and end times) have been saved for my 2 locals and the mall...that is more than Cars 3 ever got this weekend, and this movie could still get more.  So, it won't suffer by not getting the screens to let it break out...

 

Good reviews, possible 4 quadrants, plenty of theaters and screens, tons of showings/day...good start to a good number...

 

For the record, Cars 3 got 8 showings/day at my 2 locals and 14 showings/day at my mall for final numbers...

This.

 

Yeah...i don't see DM3 going below the first one's $251M DOM either. Heck, even Sing with December-legs, although the lowest opening for an fully-animated Illumination film with $35M OW.....still made $270M.

 

If the film is among the more well received animated threequels....it could hold very well.

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29 minutes ago, Goffe said:

Under 3X is pretty toxic for an animated film if you ask me. The only other animation to do under 3X in the top 30 is Shrek 3. In the top 100, only 4 other films did it, and one of them was rated R.

What was the R rated one? And the other 3?

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Updated RT watch: All Eyez on Me ends up being one of the worst reviewed wide-release films of the summer so far. And Cars 3 ends up fresh (even if not enthusiastically so), meaning that Pixar's only "rotten" film is still just Cars 2. 

 

2017 Summer Films RT Watch (Wide-Release — May/June/July/August)

  1. Wonder Woman — 92% —  7.6 rating
  2. It Comes At Night — 87% — 7.4 rating
  3. Captain Underpants — 85% — 6.8 rating
  4. Megan Leavey — 82% — 6.7 rating
  5. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 — 81% — 7.1 rating
  6. Alien: Covenant — 71% — 6.4 rating
  7. Cars 3 — 65% — 6.2 rating
  8. 47 Meters Down — 55% — 5.6 rating
  9. Rough Night — 52% — 5.6 rating
  10. The Dinner — 51% — 5.6 rating
  11. Everything, Everything — 48% — 5.5 rating
  12. Snatched — 36% — 5.1 rating
  13. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales — 29% — 4.7 rating
  14. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword — 28% — 4.6 rating
  15. All Eyez on Me — 24% — 4.3 rating
  16. Baywatch — 19% — 4.0 rating
  17. Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul — 18% — 4.2 rating
  18. The Mummy — 16% — 4.3 rating

(Last summer half of the 42 wide-release films tracked were “rotten” on RT, and only 10 of the films had an 80+%.)

 

Peace,

Mike

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