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[The Panda]

1 minute ago, grim22 said:

If we as casual observers are discussing RT this much, there must definitely be a film industry level discussion as to what to do about the RT problem for sure.

 

i don't think they will embargo to day of release, but they might start putting in things like - "You can review the movie but not put your review on RT till Sunday of release" or similar as a blanket practice.

 

If they start embargoing so far in then it'd be worse.  They'd skip it until they get a consensus.

[grim22]

1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

Here's a solution to the RT problem: MAKE SOME MORE GOOD FUCKING MOVIES

 

You thought Pirates 5 was good. Now imagine a lot of Han's making the decision which are good movies. Everyone thinks they are making good movies.

 

You are acting like its all or nothing again.

[YM!]

Just now, WrathOfHan said:

Here's a solution to the RT problem: MAKE SOME MORE GOOD FUCKING MOVIES

It's still hard to determine. Baywatch tested extremely well with audiences and ended up with shit reviews.

[The Futurist]

1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

Here's a solution to the RT problem: MAKE SOME MORE GOOD FUCKING MOVIES

 

Thats not how it works I am afraid.

[Dementeleus]

1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

Here's a solution to the RT problem: MAKE SOME MORE GOOD FUCKING MOVIES

 

Sure, like ROGUE ONE and WONDER WOMAN. 

[aabattery]

Just now, grim22 said:

 

You thought Pirates 5 was good. Now imagine a lot of Han's making the decision which are good movies.

 

There would be so many Alien movies.

[grim22]

Just now, YourMother said:

It's still hard to determine. Baywatch tested extremely well with audiences and ended up with shit reviews.

 

Yup, both Baywatch and Pirates tested really well.

[WrathOfHan]

Just now, grim22 said:

 

You thought Pirates 5 was good. Now imagine a lot of Han's making the decision which are good movies.

Have you even seen it?  

[Orestes]

1 minute ago, YourMother said:

It's still hard to determine. Baywatch tested extremely well with audiences and ended up with shit reviews.

 

And shit audience scores. I'd say the problem there was their testing methodology.

[WrathOfHan]

Just now, aabattery said:

 

There would be so many Alien movies.

So much Fassbeast to go around for all  

[grim22]

Just now, WrathOfHan said:

Have you even seen it?  

 

Yes, and almost fell asleep watching it. What a waste of space. Deserves the RT rating of 30% or so.

[John Marston]

5 minutes ago, grim22 said:

If we as casual observers are discussing RT this much, there must definitely be a film industry level discussion as to what to do about the RT problem for sure.

 

i don't think they will embargo to day of release, but they might start putting in things like - "You can review the movie but not put your review on RT till Sunday of release" or similar as a blanket practice.

 

 

I can see them doing that and also trying to get ticket sites like Fandango removing the RT score rating from their sites. I mean, I can't really blame them. They are in this business to make money so if they feel RT takes away any of it, they will likely take action

[nomyth]

I will admit, part of the reason I don't rally against RT is because I do think Hollywood deserves to get knocked down a peg. The ironic thing is that the GP thinks Hollywood is this PC loving liberal love fest but from what I've seen (and this is just second hand experience), it's the most elitist, sexist and racist business out there. My best friend is a Latina director who acts on the side and you wouldn't believe the shit casting directors have said to her. Not to mention the kind of roles she was offered.

 

I think we're finally starting to see a shift in representation and quality in Hollywood. There's a lot to be excited about over the next few years. So, in all honesty, I'm pro any resource that is pushing Hollywood to take the quality of what they put out more seriously.

[baumer]

Well, I'm up early for work on Sunday, so I'm off to bed.  But this has been a good discussion.  Thanks guys  @Telemachos @grim22 @nomyth @grey ghost  and everyone else....it's been interesting.

 

[Krissykins]

Baywatch simply wasn't as advertised.

 

I'm sure if you removed the language it'd be PG13.

 

Where was the sexy? Where was the "hard rated R fun"?

 

It wasn't there. Plus the film looked so cheap. I bet $20m of that went to The Rock. The beaches looked dull and other times like green screen! 

[grey ghost]

2 minutes ago, grim22 said:

If we as casual observers are discussing RT this much, there must definitely be a film industry level discussion as to what to do about the RT problem for sure.

 

i don't think they will embargo to day of release, but they might start putting in things like - "You can review the movie but not put your review on RT till Sunday of release" or similar as a blanket practice.

 

The genie is out the bottle.

 

Movie goers will never go back to making uninformed decisions when paying 10-80 bucks to see a flick.

 

With or without RT, people are going to find a way to only pay full price for above average movies.

 

And that's the way it should be.

 

Hollywood can no longer dump sub-par shit on movie goers and laugh all the way to the bank.

 

More quality control for them, less wasted money for us.

 

 

[BenedictL11]

First of all, Go WW!!!! It has a chance to crack $40M this weekend but even if it doesn't, it will still be on track for $350M+ Dom total with a possible $700M+ WW.

 

I'm predicting All Eyez on Me to drop to $7M today (-45.3%). Without previews, AEOM is still going to drop 28.4% (similar to Tupac Resurrection which didn't have previews in 2003).

[baumer]

3 hours ago, nomyth said:

I will admit, part of the reason I don't rally against RT is because I do think Hollywood deserves to get knocked down a peg. The ironic thing is that the GP thinks Hollywood is this PC loving liberal love fest but from what I've seen (and this is just second hand experience), it's the most elitist, sexist and racist business out there. My best friend is a Latina director who acts on the side and you wouldn't believe the shit casting directors have said to her. Not to mention the kind of roles she was offered.

 

I think we're finally starting to see a shift in representation and quality in Hollywood. There's a lot to be excited about over the next few years. So, in all honesty, I'm pro any resource that is pushing Hollywood to take the quality of what they put out more seriously.

 

Whenever I think of what really goes on behind the scenes in Hollywood, I think of Selina telling Bruce that there's a storm coming.

And there's a lot of insane information out there about the under belly of Hollywood that I won't bring up here but it's been discussed by guys like @zerbs before....so I know where you are coming from.

[Krissykins]

14 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Of course they are. It spawned at least 4 or 5 pages in WW's OW thread  

The tiny minority always grab attention for some reason. See Empire City's "mess" review.

 

Mess in every sense of the word now 

[Barnack]

5 minutes ago, grim22 said:

If we as casual observers are discussing RT this much, there must definitely be a film industry level discussion as to what to do about the RT problem for sure.

 

i don't think they will embargo to day of release, but they might start putting in things like - "You can review the movie but not put your review on RT till Sunday of release" or similar as a blanket practice.

 

That I'm not sure, chance are an other very similar website will aggregate the score and become the more popular because they have a score sooner.

 

What many people said to shift RT more into a 3 level of scored notes (copying MC in a sense) and giving 1 to positive, 0.5 to mild, 0 to negative instead of a binary when creating the RT score risk to be what happen, 2 studio being partly the owner of RT could make that transition easier to happen if it is what they want.

 

The fact that it didn't change even thought it is own by Comcast and Warner could mean that it is overall a positive (otherwise it is a bit strange that they achieved to keep enough independence to hurt their owner), that people buy more tickets if they see the score in a total year, that it just augment the noise or bad it goes when it goes bad and how good it goes when it goes well. A bit like it is better for amazon to have user reviews there.