STEPHEN KING'S IT WEEKEND THREAD | 117.15 Mill!....NO SPOILERS..NOT EVEN IN TAGS!

[Rumpot]

17 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

lmao yikes the second showing of Home Again is finishing with 2 tickets  

inflated by people rushing to see it before the hurricane no doubt

[baumer]

Guru has it at 62. I think hes going to be off by 13-18 million.

[Jonwo]

14 minutes ago, Barnack said:

If the deal is like the previous one and just for the theatrical release, the studio distributor is not that exposed on the budget side.

 

Skyfall from Sony point of view was a 188m movie with 93.6m financed by MGM/Eon, Solace awas a 219m with 109m from MGM/Eon (well you get the 50% pattern).

 

95 million and 110 million are big investment sure, but not giant.

 

And I imagine it is not to hard to get a loan for financing part of the budget and part of the distribution cost of a franchise movie like Bond, the infrastructure capacity to release it correctly is probably a main factor, more than capital or not.

 

Did New Line ever released a movie world wide ?

 

New Line seem to be exclusively distributed in the USA I think.

 

The Conjuring 2 & IT for example:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3065204/companycredits?ref_=tt_ql_dt_5

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1396484/companycredits?ref_=tt_ql_dt_5

 

USA only, Warner Brother take care of the rest.

 

lord of the ring also:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167260/companycredits?ref_=tt_ql_dt_5

 

I have the impression that an entity like New Line can only by a co-distributor for the US theatrical alone (canada would also be WB) at the maximum and would not be exposed to a big portion of the production budget.

New Line never did release their films OS before they folded into WB, like Lionsgate, they sold the OS distribution rights to cover the costs of films. The Golden Compass which made $370m WW, New Line didn't see a penny of the OS money which was the final straw for TimeWarner and likely the reason why New Line was folded into WB. 

 

I don't think they even release their own films in the US, WB does. 

Edited September 8, 2017 by Jonwo

[WrathOfHan]

8:30 IT: 63/78

 

Total tickets sold tonight for IT: 267/358

Total tickets sold tonight for Home Again: 21/145

 

I'll do a report for tomorrow after some algebra homework.

[Fancyarcher]

55 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

New Line don't release their own films anymore, before they were folded into WB, they were essentially sister companies but New Line just sold off the distribution rights to foreign distributors which turned out to be a costly mistake when they released the Golden Compass back in 2007. 

Yup, and WB essentially owns New Line entirely now. They just choose to release certain films under the company's logo basically. 

[WrathOfHan]

Tomorrow at my theater:

 

Spoiler

It:

 

10:10: 14/78

11:45: 6/78

1:15: 0/78

2:50: 17/78

4:30: 11/78

6:00: 11/78

7:00: 47/124

8:00: 13/78

8:45: 0/69

9:15: 7/78

10:15: 23/124

 

All Saints:

 

10:15: 2/63

1:00: 3/63

3:40: 0/63

6:20: 0/63

 

Home Again: 

 

11:00: 4/113

1:30: 0/113

4:00: 0/113

6:30: 0/113

9:00: 0/113

 

THB:

 

10:50: 2/78

1:45: 0/78

4:35: 0/78

7:25: 2/78

10:15: 0/78

 

Nut Job:

 

2:00: 2/78

It: 149/941

All Saints: 5/253

Home Again: 4/565

THB: 4/390

Nut Job: 2/78

9/11, Wind River, Annabelle, Dunkirk, Emoji, Leap!, LL, SMH, and WW have sold nothing.

 

@CJohn The auditorium placements are already biting them in the ass, and it isn't even Friday yet  

[Jonwo]

Just now, Fancyarcher said:

Yup, and WB essentially owns New Line entirely now. They just choose to release certain films under the company's logo basically. 

I think it's more like TriStar, Focus, Fox Searchlight etc which has its own slate of films but distributed by their respective studios. 

[Fancyarcher]

1 minute ago, Jonwo said:

I think it's more like TriStar, Focus, Fox Searchlight etc which has its own slate of films but distributed by their respective studios. 

It's similar to when Disney still had (well they technically still do, they just stopped using them as much), something like Touchstone where they would release their more adult films, basically. 

[WrathOfHan]

Finding a Friday comparison for It is hard. On Friday morning, Annabelle was at 70 tickets with less than half of the capacity as It and ended up having its morning and afternoon shows sell between 20-30 tickets or so each. THB was at 59 tickets on Friday morning and ended up having basically every show sell over 40 seats or be nearly sold out, but again, it had much less capacity than it. Keep in mind college was still out of session.

[Jonwo]

13 minutes ago, Fancyarcher said:

It's similar to when Disney still had (well they technically still do, they just stopped using them as much), something like Touchstone where they would release their more adult films, basically. 

Touchstone is all but dead, a lot of the PG-13 stuff is now released under either the Disney brand like Pirates or Into the Woods, Marvel Studios or Lucasfilm. Hollywood Pictures which was for things like The Rock hasn't been active for over a decade.

 

New Line Cinema went from a small niche player to releasing juggernauts like LOTR and hits like Elf but I think they were a victim of their own success because it went downhill after that with things like The Last Mimzy and The Golden Compass. 

[Barnack]

12 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

Touchstone is all but dead,

It is since at least 2006, according to Disney SEC filling, no employee, no office space, nothing else than an empty accounting shell and tag/brand for certain movie to not have family friendly Disney brand associated with them.

 

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1001039/000100103907000090/filename1.htm

 

Moreover, Touchstone is not a separate and distinct business operation but a brand used in the marketing and distribution of live-action films that are generally geared toward a more adult audience (e.g. PG-13 rated) than those released under the Disney-brand. Touchstone-branded films are produced and released using the same infrastructure support and the same operating assets (e.g. production facilities, distribution network, etc.) as the Company’s other film brands (e.g. Walt Disney Pictures and Miramax Films). The only significant assets that relate exclusively to Touchstone are capitalized film costs. These costs are accounted for in accordance with SOP 00-2, Accounting by Producers or Distributors of Films (SOP 00-2) on a title by title basis and evaluated for indicators of impairment quarterly. Impairments are determined as the excess of a film’s carrying cost over its fair value based on future estimated cash flows.

 

 

Edited September 8, 2017 by Barnack

[Jonwo]

4 minutes ago, Barnack said:

It is since at least 2006, according to Disney SEC filling, no employee, no office space, nothing else than an empty accouting shell and tag/brand for certain movie to not have family friendly Disney brand associated with them.

 

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1001039/000100103907000090/filename1.htm

 

Moreover, Touchstone is not a separate and distinct business operation but a brand used in the marketing and distribution of live-action films that are generally geared toward a more adult audience (e.g. PG-13 rated) than those released under the Disney-brand. Touchstone-branded films are produced and released using the same infrastructure support and the same operating assets (e.g. production facilities, distribution network, etc.) as the Company’s other film brands (e.g. Walt Disney Pictures and Miramax Films). The only significant assets that relate exclusively to Touchstone are capitalized film costs. These costs are accounted for in accordance with SOP 00-2, Accounting by Producers or Distributors of Films (SOP 00-2) on a title by title basis and evaluated for indicators of impairment quarterly. Impairments are determined as the excess of a film’s carrying cost over its fair value based on future estimated cash flows.

 

 

The last time Touchstone was used in a film was The Light between Oceans which was DreamWorks' last film to be distributed by Disney.

[The Futurist]

Barnack, I say this as a compliment, sometimes I wonder if you re not self-aware Skynet.

Your posts are so full of information ... damn.

 

[Fancyarcher]

12 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

Touchstone is all but dead, a lot of the PG-13 stuff is now released under either the Disney brand like Pirates or Into the Woods, Marvel Studios or Lucasfilm. Hollywood Pictures which was for things like The Rock hasn't been active for over a decade.

 

New Line Cinema went from a small niche player to releasing juggernauts like LOTR and hits like Elf but I think they were a victim of their own success because it went downhill after that with things like The Last Mimzy and The Golden Compass. 

New Line Cinema never really become a "major studio" despite their successes, and they greenlit a lot of box office disappointments / flops by the end of the mid 2000's, which may have led to studios downfall.

2 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

The last time Touchstone was used in a film was The Light between Oceans which was DreamWorks' last film to be distributed by Disney.

And that was only last year. Touchstone is basically officially dead by now. 

[Steele131]

 

Not essentially, they do own them. All their films have the WB logo that transforms into the newline logo 

Edited September 8, 2017 by Steele131

[DeeCee]

Bang on Logan OD in Australia. 

 

USD85-95m

[Fancyarcher]

2 minutes ago, Steele131 said:

 

Not essentially, they do own them. All their films have the WB logo that transforms into the newline logo 

Yes I'm aware that WB owns New Line, I was just pointing that out. 

[Nova]

6 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

Bang on Logan OD in Australia. 

 

USD85-95m

So my $100M OW club may have some life 

 

Edited September 8, 2017 by Nova

[YM!]

1 minute ago, Nova said:

So my $100M OW club may have some life 

 

My $42.5M+ OD club can live.

Edited September 8, 2017 by YourMother

[Jonwo]

Just now, YourMother said:

My $42.5M+ OD club can live.

Looks like WeneedtotalkaboutKevin will get another Warner Bros film wrong yet again!  It'll do $100m in its first week much like WW did over $130m in its first week!