Alli Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, a2knet said: AMERICAN MADE is on track for 50 dom 2017/10/13 6 $5,500,950 -35% 3,098 $1,776 $40,230,815 3 That's 3x multiplier off a 16.78 ow. Will cross 100m OS with China and Japan for 150+ ww. It will not be released in China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said: It is? Oh, well, I guess I expected 100K+ at least. Oh, I don't know, ANYTHING ELSE BUT FUCKING EMOJI MOVIE. Double down on Cars 3? Hell, even.... uhh, I don't know, I guess Dunkirk? I mean, every child has to have History class at some point, might as well start with Tom Hardy awesomeness. Look, I admit that I haven't seen the movie, but from everything that I know and read about it (which includes spoilers of the plot itself), it's the furthest thing from artistically thoughtful that an animated movie can ever hope to be (even Nut Job 2 probably has more soul to it). I just hoped that kids would know better than that. Speaking of Nut Job 2, why is it only opening in November here? There wasn't anything else. Cars 3 was a big underperformer. Emoji didn't exactly set the country on fire on OW, but the lack of anything to families in the entire month of August and early September led to some crazy legs. Because Outsider had no better place to put it and opening it on November 1 gives it an holiday which will be a big OD and an empty market until Coco. I would have gone with late August and force other weaker competition to move out, but I guess they thought something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Impossible Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 52.7% drop for Blade Runner. That’s pretty standard for as Sci-fi films. Hopefully it legs it out to $100M DOM and $300M WW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKillswitch123 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CJohn said: There wasn't anything else. Cars 3 was a big underperformer. Emoji didn't exactly set the country on fire on OW, but the lack of anything to families in the entire month of August and early September led to some crazy legs. Because Outsider had no better place to put it and opening it on November 1 gives it an holiday which will be a big OD and an empty market until Coco. I would have gone with late August and force other weaker competition to move out, but I guess they thought something else. ....sigh, I see that. Well, I guess Sony was very lucky there. Or actually, they were very smart, by positioning the movie as the last big Summer kids film. I assume Leap!/Ballerina either came out during Spring or hasn't come out at all, correct? I agree, I think that it would've done just fine in August too. But I guess that the OD money is tempting for them. It will be obliterated by Coco (.....or maybe not, actually), but good for them. Edited October 16, 2017 by MCKillswitch123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 N Happy Death Day Uni. $26,039,025 - 3,149 - $8,269 $26,039,025 $4.8 1 2 1 Blade Runner 2049 WB $15,492,244 -52.7% 4,058 - $3,818 $60,970,631 $150 2 3 N The Foreigner STX $13,113,024 - 2,515 - $5,214 $13,113,024 $35 1 4 3 It WB (NL) $6,055,633 -39.3% 3,176 -429 $1,907 $314,935,154 $35 6 5 2 The Mountain Between Us Fox $5,750,951 -45.5% 3,259 +171 $1,765 $20,603,873 $35 2 6 6 American Made Uni. $5,500,950 -34.9% 3,098 +67 $1,776 $40,230,815 $50 3 7 5 Kingsman: The Golden Circle Fox $5,379,417 -38.0% 2,982 -506 $1,804 $89,716,457 $104 4 8 7 The LEGO Ninjago Movie WB $4,316,424 -38.4% 3,053 -558 $1,414 $51,579,113 - 4 9 4 My Little Pony: The Movie LGF $4,111,877 -53.7% 2,528 - $1,627 $15,625,311 - 2 10 8 Victoria and Abdul Focus $3,006,155 -27.9% 900 +168 $3,340 $11,233,099 - 4 11 N Marshall ORF $3,000,805 - 821 - $3,655 $3,000,805 $12 1 12 9 Flatliners (2017) Sony $1,544,995 -61.1% 1,983 -569 $779 $15,672,966 $19 3 13 10 Battle of the Sexes FoxS $1,338,564 -47.8% 1,394 -428 $960 $10,352,762 - 4 14 N Professor Marston & the Wonder Women Annapurna $736,883 - 1,229 - $600 $736,883 - 1 15 11 American Assassin LGF $520,583 -62.5% 820 -836 $635 $35,603,092 $33 5 16 27 The Florida Project A24 $368,149 +133.7% 33 +29 $11,156 $590,957 - 2 17 26 Loving Vincent Good Deed $331,602 +97.8% 55 +27 $6,029 $750,674 - 4 18 13 The Stray Purd. $286,494 -52.0% 430 -210 $666 $1,191,487 - 2 19 20 Spider-Man: Homecoming Sony $282,953 +3.8% 306 -20 $925 $333,528,381 $175 15 20 12 Til Death Do Us Part NN $282,408 -62.4% 310 -240 $911 $3,222,376 - 3 21 18 Despicable Me 3 Uni. $244,730 -15.5% 266 -38 $920 $263,015,205 $80 16 22 21 The Emoji Movie Sony $181,355 -20.1% 220 -34 $824 $85,487,846 $50 12 23 14 Home Again ORF $164,526 -71.0% 361 -642 $456 $26,798,552 $12 6 24 15 A Question Of Faith PFR $153,930 -66.1% 228 -380 $675 $2,195,224 - 3 25 22 Dunkirk WB $152,419 -32.1% 268 -45 $569 $187,552,594 $100 13 26 N American Satan Sumerian $135,378 - 55 - $2,461 $135,378 - 1 27 16 mother! Par. $128,374 -66.9% 159 -322 $807 $17,634,778 $30 5 28 37 Mark Felt: The Man Who Brought Down the White House SPC $117,572 +96.2% 89 +72 $1,321 $250,884 - 3 29 28 Annabelle: Creation WB (NL) $115,801 -21.6% 202 +14 $573 $101,933,294 $15 10 30 32 Lucky (2017) Magn. $114,838 +20.3% 60 +26 $1,914 $361,909 - 3 31 19 Stronger RAtt. $110,312 -60.3% 174 -161 $634 $4,034,669 - 4 32 24 Wind River Wein. $109,241 -47.0% 194 -162 $563 $33,456,946 $11 11 33 17 Judwaa 2 FIP $102,256 -67.3% 106 -86 $965 $1,404,957 - 3 34 23 Leap! Wein. $100,093 -52.8% 185 -216 $541 $21,426,618 - 8 35 31 Cars 3 BV $87,728 -21.3% 119 -12 $737 $152,743,252 - 18 36 25 The Hitman's Bodyguard LG/S $80,438 -52.2% 165 -149 $488 $75,184,323 $30 9 37 35 War for the Planet of the Apes Fox $65,589 -18.0% 100 -21 $656 $146,676,660 $150 14 38 N Goodbye Christopher Robin FoxS $57,917 - 9 - $6,435 $57,917 - 1 39 29 City of Rock WGUSA $48,176 -58.3% 22 -21 $2,190 $227,519 - 2 40 33 Wonder Woman WB $47,601 -45.1% 118 -37 $403 $412,486,266 $149 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 IT's %-difference compared to SMH (looking at gross-to-date after every weekend) 3-day 123.4 117.0 +5.47% 10-day 218.8 207.3 +5.55% 17-day 266.1 251.9 +5.64% 24-day 290.8 278.2 +4.53% 31-day 305.3 295.0 +3.49% 38-day 314.9 306.4 +2.77% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 no Boss Baby or Hidden Figures #'s. Good thing that Fox is still tracking Captain Underpants though 76 59 Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie Fox $2,790 -77.7% 38 +13 $73 $73,903,006 $38 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Exactly one person saw A Taxi Driver this weekend: 123 127 A Taxi Driver WGUSA $11 -79.2% 1 -6 $11 $1,527,829 - 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, That One Guy said: no Boss Baby or Hidden Figures #'s. Good thing that Fox is still tracking Captain Underpants though 76 59 Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie Fox $2,790 -77.7% 38 +13 $73 $73,903,006 $38 20 This one made it to 3.1x multi. Low for a non-sequel animation. Among animations that grossed more than 40m+ dom, Smurfs3 did 3.38x, Lego Bat did 3.32x, Boss Baby did 3.48x, DM3 did around 3.6x, Cars3 did 2.84x and Emoji around 3.5x. Edited October 16, 2017 by a2knet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, That One Guy said: Exactly one person saw A Taxi Driver this weekend: 123 127 A Taxi Driver WGUSA $11 -79.2% 1 -6 $11 $1,527,829 - 10 Guessing he was a taxi driver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpot Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Netflix plans to release 80 movies in 2018. http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/netflix-80-films-release-2018-ted-sarandos-1202591430/ I find this company so arrogant...can't understand how this can possibly work. They are lucky they have unlimited money to spend thanks to the stock market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Netflix plans to release 80 movies in 2018. Holy shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDERDOG Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rumpot said: Netflix plans to release 80 movies in 2018. http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/netflix-80-films-release-2018-ted-sarandos-1202591430/ I find this company so arrogant...can't understand how this can possibly work. They are lucky they have unlimited money to spend thanks to the stock market. And 78 of them wont be marketed at all. Edited October 16, 2017 by UNDERDOG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rumpot said: Netflix plans to release 80 movies in 2018. http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/netflix-80-films-release-2018-ted-sarandos-1202591430/ I find this company so arrogant...can't understand how this can possibly work. They are lucky they have unlimited money to spend thanks to the stock market. I dont think they have unlimited cash flow. In fact its negative. They use debt to fuel growth. Netflix has almost $20B in debt. Companies like Amazon and Netflix are having this crazy evaluations(like infinity P/E) bcos they are expected to dominate their marketplace and grow like crazy for ever. Plus they have CEO's who are true visionaries. I thought I will buy Netflix shares on dips but its not dipping at all. But their strategy of going direct to stream is based on new kind of audience who dont go to multiplex. Currently large majority of people just dont go to theaters and this is their way of watching something new. Plus they supposedly offer great freedom to movie makers and so they should make great movies. We will see if this works or not. Since studios like disney are already pulling out of Netflix they are dependent on original content to attract audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpot Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: I dont think they have unlimited cash flow. In fact its negative. They use debt to fuel growth. Netflix has almost $20B in debt. Companies like Amazon and Netflix are having this crazy evaluations(like infinity P/E) bcos they are expected to dominate their marketplace and grow like crazy for ever. Plus they have CEO's who are true visionaries. I thought I will buy Netflix shares on dips but its not dipping at all. But their strategy of going direct to stream is based on new kind of audience who dont go to multiplex. Currently large majority of people just dont go to theaters and this is their way of watching something new. Plus they supposedly offer great freedom to movie makers and so they should make great movies. We will see if this works or not. Since studios like disney are already pulling out of Netflix they are dependent on original content to attract audience. Yep, not unlimited cash flow - cash flow negative 2 to 2.5B this year. From where I'm standing they are becoming more like a premium channel but are valued as a tech company with unlimited potential. If they make good movies I'll be glad for it...but we'll see. I watched part of Death Note and it was really bad I thought. I'm on the other side of your view - I think this is peak Netflix. They are going to lose Disney in 2 years and immediately be pit against them and no way they can create content in the same league as Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Rumpot said: Yep, not unlimited cash flow - cash flow negative 2 to 2.5B this year. From where I'm standing they are becoming more like a premium channel but are valued as a tech company with unlimited potential. If they make good movies I'll be glad for it...but we'll see. I watched part of Death Note and it was really bad I thought. I'm on the other side of your view - I think this is peak Netflix. They are going to lose Disney in 2 years and immediately be pit against them and no way they can create content in the same league as Disney. I dont see disney winning this at all. its not just about SW or Marvel movies. You need to innovate in this space and I would trust Netflix way more than Disney. If netflix were to lose, it would be to some other innovator who disrupts the industry. I dont see elephants like disney trying too hard. If they push too hard they will lose revenue on existing streams and so they always hedge in their approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: I dont see disney winning this at all. its not just about SW or Marvel movies. You need to innovate in this space and I would trust Netflix way more than Disney. If netflix were to lose, it would be to some other innovator who disrupts the industry. I dont see elephants like disney trying too hard. If they push too hard they will lose revenue on existing streams and so they always hedge in their approach. 6 This. Disney can barely keep their TV group afloat against competitors. With ABC / Freeform ratings and subs bombing in relation to competition (& now, layoffs are happening) - & their other cable channels' inability to land a hit. Even ABC's biggest headliner Shonda Rhimes was poached by Netflix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I think Apes3 is done everywhere except Japan. Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $146,676,660 30.1% + Foreign: $341,123,137 69.9% = Worldwide: $487,799,797 Apes2 did 12.7 in Japan so Apes3 may not do much more than 7-9 going by drops in markets other than China (where growth of the market and service fees gave it a small bump). In SK it dropped 50% from Apes2. Will miss 500 by a small margin it seems, barring surprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakiyyah6 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Yikes, who was predicting Apes to fall that hard from it's predecessor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said: Yikes, who was predicting Apes to fall that hard from it's predecessor? even after the weak late tracking i didn't think it could fall below 550-600: 175 dom + 125 china + 275 os-china = 575 ww, opposed to what it's gonna end with, 147 dom + 112 china + 237 os-china = 496 ww (assuming 8 from Japan) Edited October 17, 2017 by a2knet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...