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2 hours ago, Noctis said:

 

What a dumbass.

 

The movie barely had any hand guns at all! 

 

The reason why there are so many mass shootings in America is not because of any film - it's because of the amount of guns available, the gun culture, and the gun lobby. More and more guns are being bought which is why mass shootings happen every other day in the US. It won't stop until there is a massive surge in gun control. 

 

But dear God, the fact that person had the gaul to try and make that comparison is just mind-boggling.

Also the toxic masculine aspect of American culture that makes people susceptible to radicalization. You don't see many problems in Switzerland where gun laws are lax. 

 

And you know reactionaries mauld whenever they see a woman in the military so Phoenix is a welcome addition to Top Gun.

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4 hours ago, Noctis said:

 

What a dumbass.

 

The movie barely had any hand guns at all! 

 

The reason why there are so many mass shootings in America is not because of any film - it's because of the amount of guns available, the gun culture, and the gun lobby. More and more guns are being bought which is why mass shootings happen every other day in the US. It won't stop until there is a massive surge in gun control. 

 

But dear God, the fact that person had the gaul to try and make that comparison is just mind-boggling.

 

Just want to clarify here who Ty Burr is; he has a decades-long history as a critic/cultural commentator for both EW and The Boston Globe.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Burr

 

It's not about corelating just "guns" to Top Gun, but of course the wider American cultural/pop movie history of ambiguous militarism without, in many cases, the real consequences being dealt with.  If true that the enemy in Top Gun is never really identified, that's a cop-out, I'd argue.  

 

Top Gun looks and sounds great, but there's no problem with asking these wider questions...especially of Americans.  

 

People are passionate about what they believe.  Arguments can be made that tie these deeper psychologies to popular culture.  It's worth reflecting on.  

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Or you could just judge the movie on its own merits and not something thats out of its control, this movie was finished in 2019, nobody at the time could tell that russia would invade ukraine or that a school shooting would happen the week of release. The issue in this country is access to guns not the violent content that people consume otherwise all countries would have the same problems

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28 minutes ago, Macleod said:

 

Just want to clarify here who Ty Burr is; he has a decades-long history as a critic/cultural commentator for both EW and The Boston Globe.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Burr

 

It's not about corelating just "guns" to Top Gun, but of course the wider American cultural/pop movie history of ambiguous militarism without, in many cases, the real consequences being dealt with.  If true that the enemy in Top Gun is never really identified, that's a cop-out, I'd argue.  

 

Top Gun looks and sounds great, but there's no problem with asking these wider questions...especially of Americans.  

 

People are passionate about what they believe.  Arguments can be made that tie these deeper psychologies to popular culture.  It's worth reflecting on.  

If you want to do a wide ranging systematic analyses of art's impact on culture, write a paper and get it peer reviewed and published it in a journal. Writing a review is to assess the quality of a piece within the confines of the context it was made.

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1 hour ago, Alex SciChannel said:

If you want to do a wide ranging systematic analyses of art's impact on culture, write a paper and get it peer reviewed and published it in a journal. Writing a review is to assess the quality of a piece within the confines of the context it was made.

 

I do these things, thanks.  😁  And Ty Burr is writing for his own blog, now, not for any journalistic publication, so he can write about what he likes.  Art is reflective and a refraction of culture, it's always been this way.  While I am an advocate for the idea that a film should be judged on its own merits storytelling-wise (i.e. not always compared to a book it might be adapted from), these productions are never just their own thing; they are reflective of all kinds of cultural thoughts and anxieties.  

 

Burr's essay is still posted, from what I can see.  I'll leave this here and we can focus more on Box Office, the point of this forum. 

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3 minutes ago, Macleod said:

 

I do these things, thanks.  😁  And Ty Burr is writing for his own blog, now, not for any journalistic publication, so he can write about what he likes.  Art is reflective and a refraction of culture, it's always been this way.  While I am an advocate for the idea that a film should be judged on its own merits storytelling-wise (i.e. not always compared to a book it might be adapted from), these productions are never just their own thing; they are reflective of all kinds of cultural thoughts and anxieties.  

 

Burr's essay is still posted, from what I can see.  I'll leave this here and we can focus more on Box Office, the point of this forum. 

My geology major is making me too academic pilled. Looking forward to TG Maverick's BO performance.

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Just got back from seeing it. It was well made and the crowd I was with seemed into it. This definitely seems like the kind of movie that will play well with mainstream audiences. I imagine it’ll also play well with people who hold…certain viewpoints. 
 

By the way, damn, I knew Kelly McGillis wasn’t in this movie, but I figured there would’ve at least been a passing mention of Charlie. Nope. The movie acts like she never existed. 

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15 hours ago, Noctis said:

 

What a dumbass.

 

The movie barely had any hand guns at all! 

 

The reason why there are so many mass shootings in America is not because of any film - it's because of the amount of guns available, the gun culture, and the gun lobby. More and more guns are being bought which is why mass shootings happen every other day in the US. It won't stop until there is a massive surge in gun control. 

 

But dear God, the fact that person had the gaul to try and make that comparison is just mind-boggling.

Absurd. Mass shootings weren’t even a thing until the ‘80s, and they didn’t become a “thing” in schools until the ‘90s. 
 

That a “gun culture” and “gun lobby” suddenly became a thing in the 1990s is ridiculous. 

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