Easter Weekend Thread: Official Weekend Actuals: RPO $41.8M ($53.7M 4-Day), Acrimony $17.2M, BP $11.5M, ICOI $10.4M, PRU $9.4M, IOD $2.9M, GND3 $2.7M

[MCKillswitch123]

27 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

$100m+ is locked at this point with a $40m three day opening

 

The 50M 4-day is pretty much a damn near guarantee, though.

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

 

The 50M 4-day is pretty much a damn near guarantee, though.

Does RPO really have the same demo and decades built in rabid fandom?

[MCKillswitch123]

3 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Does RPO really have the same demo and decades built in rabid fandom?

Certainly not decades worth of fandom, but the demos aren't really that far apart .

 

That being said, I was just pointing out that 40M 3-day doesn't really lock a 100M DOM. Though, in the case of RPO, it surely pushes the odds in its favor.

Edited March 31, 2018 by MCKillswitch123

[setna]

I´ve read in the net that Avengers Infinity War costs about 1 billion, i guess this is for the 2 movies, like Lord of the Rings or Hobbit that were filmed at the same time.

 

Because it´s for one movie would need to gross at least 2 billion to break even and only 3 movies did in film history...

 

Anyone has data for the real budget of these Avengers movies?

[setna]

1 hour ago, Premium George said:

Every one who wants to know how these budget and stuff works along with profit and all, go to this thread-

 

 

Here we have actual data from sony leaks. Not any stupid deadline projection, but actual data that stupid people in suits see.

For example here is amazing spider man 2-

 

Title	AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 THE
Release year	2014
BUDGET	-263,950
WWBO	708,996
BO / budget ratio	2.7
DBO	202,854
IBO	506,142
Studio GROSS PROFIT	14,523
3dr party profit	0
Total gross profit	14,523
Profits + Bonus	58,773
DOM THEAT. REVENUE	108,000
INTL THEAT. REVENUE	199,820
Rev after theater	295,453
% after theater	49%
FINANCING BENEFIT	66,630
OVERHEAD	-31,570
PARTICIPATIONS	-44,250
INVESTOR SHARE	-61,030
TOTAL REVENUE	603,273
MARKETING COSTS	-166,996
Releasing cost	-191,790
Total rev / wwbo	85%
Revenue - releasing cost - budget	-20,459
Profit in theater	-21,659
BO /(budget + bonus)	2.3
Special formula	5.1
release / budget cost	0.7
Dom Retention rate	47%
Intl retention rate	40%
Profitable	1

Very interesting post!!!

 

i didn´t know at all that the filn industry was also leaked. Would be very nice if this will published for everybody attention, specially the forums memebers...

[TalismanRing]

11 minutes ago, setna said:

I´ve read in the net that Avengers Infinity War costs about 1 billion, i guess this is for the 2 movies, like Lord of the Rings or Hobbit that were filmed at the same time.

 

Because it´s for one movie would need to gross at least 2 billion to break even and only 3 movies did in film history...

 

Anyone has data for the real budget of these Avengers movies?

That number was tossed out by Bleeding Cool News years ago among a bunch of other "news" they got at a bar during New York Comic Con by some bitter Marvel people after the Feige coup of Ike and the NY Committee.  It's completely bogus.

 

The reported budgets for Avengers and AOU are  respectively $220m and $280m after tax breaks.

 

They didn't film these back to back to raise the budget for each by about 75% over AOU.  No budgets for them have been released yet.

 

Edited March 31, 2018 by TalismanRing

[Avatree]

6 hours ago, Johnny Tran said:

I think films like Minority Report, War Horse,  Bridge of Spies and War of the Worlds are all solid flicks but not ones that would make a "Best of.." list for any years they made.  They're fun movies. 

 

I don't feel like they approach "Classic Spielberg".  

Wrong, War of the Worlds would be in several lists

 

Best of 2005

Best of 21st century

Best disaster movie

Best Tom Cruise movie

Best remake

Best alien movie

Best Spielberg movie

[Arlborn]

5 hours ago, DAJK said:

Not surprised at PRU's drop, given the general 'meh' consensus on it. Tomb Raider has even seemed to generate better WOM, and with RPO landing at the higher end of expectations, it just seems to naturally be the casualty.

 

Shame though, for a movie that 4 years ago the internet was SO hyped for. 

 

Sadly this "sequel" is not what the internet was hyped for. We wanted GDT directing it.

 

1 hour ago, Premium George said:

Every one who wants to know how these budget and stuff works along with profit and all, go to this thread-

 

 

Here we have actual data from sony leaks. Not any stupid deadline projection, but actual data that stupid people in suits see.

For example here is amazing spider man 2-

 

Title	AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 THE
Release year	2014
BUDGET	-263,950
WWBO	708,996
BO / budget ratio	2.7
DBO	202,854
IBO	506,142
Studio GROSS PROFIT	14,523
3dr party profit	0
Total gross profit	14,523
Profits + Bonus	58,773
DOM THEAT. REVENUE	108,000
INTL THEAT. REVENUE	199,820
Rev after theater	295,453
% after theater	49%
FINANCING BENEFIT	66,630
OVERHEAD	-31,570
PARTICIPATIONS	-44,250
INVESTOR SHARE	-61,030
TOTAL REVENUE	603,273
MARKETING COSTS	-166,996
Releasing cost	-191,790
Total rev / wwbo	85%
Revenue - releasing cost - budget	-20,459
Profit in theater	-21,659
BO /(budget + bonus)	2.3
Special formula	5.1
release / budget cost	0.7
Dom Retention rate	47%
Intl retention rate	40%
Profitable	1

 

It's amazing how much money Sony threw at that film and how sloppy they were with its costs thinking "it's Spider-Man, it'll be profitable no matter what". Such arrogance on their part.

 

14 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

That number was tossed out by Bleeding Cool News years ago among a bunch of other "news" they got at a bar during New York Comic Con by some bitter Marvel people after the Feige coup of Ike and the NY Committee.  It's completely bogus.

 

The reported budgets for Avengers and AOU are  respectively $220m and $280m after tax breaks.

 

They didn't film these back to back to raise the budget for each by about 75% over AOU.  No budgets for them have been released yet.

 

All the costs combined for both will still get relatively close to 1 billion dollars though. If I had to guess I'd say it's not less than 800m and I'll go ahead and say in their case the costs are totally justifiable; they'll end up generating amazing profits and one of the reasons for that is that people will feel that Marvel is sparing no expenses to give them the spectacle of the decade!

 

Anyway, what would be your guess?

 

 

[Avatree]

1B seems a reasonable number, if production budget is 250 + 250 and you have similar 200+ marketing then that would be 900M.  

[TalismanRing]

24 minutes ago, November Treejax said:

1B seems a reasonable number, if production budget is 250 + 250 and you have similar 200+ marketing then that would be 900M.  

IB for production + P&A is certainly within the realm of possibility. 

 

But they ran the story that 1B was the production budget and called them the most expensive movies ever made.

 

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/10/08/avengers-infinity-war-parts-1-and-2-have-a-budget-of-one-billion-dollars/

 

 

[a2k]

2 hours ago, Premium George said:

 

Title	AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 THE
Release year	2014
BUDGET	-263,950
WWBO	708,996
BO / budget ratio	2.7
DBO	202,854
IBO	506,142
Studio GROSS PROFIT	14,523
3dr party profit	0
Total gross profit	14,523
Profits + Bonus	58,773
DOM THEAT. REVENUE	108,000
INTL THEAT. REVENUE	199,820
Rev after theater	295,453
% after theater	49%
FINANCING BENEFIT	66,630
OVERHEAD	-31,570
PARTICIPATIONS	-44,250
INVESTOR SHARE	-61,030
TOTAL REVENUE	603,273
MARKETING COSTS	-166,996
Releasing cost	-191,790
Total rev / wwbo	85%
Revenue - releasing cost - budget	-20,459
Profit in theater	-21,659
BO /(budget + bonus)	2.3
Special formula	5.1
release / budget cost	0.7
Dom Retention rate	47%
Intl retention rate	40%
Profitable	1

[Krissykins]

35 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

But they ran the story that 1B was the production budget and called them the most expensive movies ever made.

Definitely don’t get that vibe from the trailers. 

[WrathOfHan]

I'm disappointed Isle of Dogs won't be hitting 3M this weekend, but a 16.6k PTA in 165 theaters is nothing to scoff at. It'll probably go down to 9k next week in 400 theaters (3.6M) and make a 3k or so PTA on the 13th (5.3M+). The more I hear about it, the movie doesn't sound GA friendly at all, but having minimal releases for a few weeks with help retain screens.

Edited March 31, 2018 by WrathOfHan

[cookie]

How does Deadline square BP doing $4m on Friday but only $11m during the weekend?

[SchumacherFTW]

4 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

I'm disappointed Isle of Dogs won't be hitting 3M this weekend, but a 16.6k PTA in 165 theaters is nothing to scoff at. It'll probably go down to 9k next week in 400 theaters (3.6M) and make a 3k or so PTA on the 13th (5.3M+). The more I hear about it, the movie doesn't sound GA friendly at all, but having minimal releases for a few weeks with help retain screens.

It's probably not GA friendly, no. It's a strange structure, and a lot of non subtitled Japanese, but it's excellent. 

[filmlover]

6 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

I'm disappointed Isle of Dogs won't be hitting 3M this weekend, but a 16.6k PTA in 165 theaters is nothing to scoff at. It'll probably go down to 9k next week in 400 theaters (3.6M) and make a 3k or so PTA on the 13th (5.3M+). The more I hear about it, the movie doesn't sound GA friendly at all, but having minimal releases for a few weeks with help retain screens.

It opened in most of the locations where it was bound to do the best in last week. It should make about $25M in the end, not bad for a stop-motion PG-13 animated film.

[a2k]

 

 

[TalismanRing]

3 minutes ago, cookie said:

How does Deadline square BP doing $4m on Friday but only $11m during the weekend?

It's Easter and during spring break.  Weekdays then Thur were already inflated hence the smaller Friday jump.  If anything the multiple might be a bit high.

 

For instance children films that usually do 4-5x will do around 2.5x

 

I think the one that's low in ICOI because it will have a softer Sunday drop.  That Garner movie a couple of years ago had a 2.92 Easter multi.  

 

 

Edited March 31, 2018 by TalismanRing

[WrathOfHan]

Using those same percentage drops as yesterday:

 

15.2M (+27%)

13.7M (-10%)

8.9M (-35%)

37.8M 3 day/49.8M 4 day

[Fancyarcher]

2 minutes ago, a2knet said:

 

 

RPO went up from Deadline's estimate.