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[Nova]

As long as CBM are good, they're going to be making money and being profitable for studios. 

[IronJimbo]

5 minutes ago, YLF said:

It sucked. There was a guy sitting near me that just started looking at his phone half way through and I saw another person  that was asleep at the back of the theater when I went to the bathroom. 

 

Its a pseudo-intellectual film.

I think that's unfair as it wasn't even trying to be intellectual like a Nolan film (and failing) for example.

[LonePirate]

6 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

As much as you or anyone else may want otherwise, Hollywood makes movies to make money. And CBM’s consistently makes them obscene piles of cash that original stories never could. That same pile of cash is then used to take gambles with original stories and new franchises. 

 

If anything you should blame people for not going out to watch original movies rather than coming out in droves to see the next SH movie. Hollywood only makes what people want to see, what they voted for with their pockets. 6 live action SH movies in a year with hundreds of movie is not even close to an overload

You really have no grasp of the concept of how bad monopolies are for the consumer and for industries as a whole. I'm also not sure you understand how language barriers, production budgets and global demand are the reasons why movies highly dependent on action with inconsequential plots and stories what drive these obscene piles of cash, as you put it.

[Zakiyyah6]

I'd take a million MCU movies over "original" garbage like Avatar and Jupiter Ascending any day of the week. I love original films like A Quiet Place but original films do not get a pass from me if they are bad. I dislike bad comic book movies as well. You don't see me defending Fan4stick, Batman v Superman, Thor The Dark World or Suicide Squad either. A bad movie is a bad movie and a good movie is a good movie. My first concern is whether a film is good or not, regardless of whether it's an adaption or not.

Edited May 20, 2018 by Zakiyyah6

[Mulder]

4 minutes ago, LonePirate said:

You really have no grasp of the concept of how bad monopolies are for the consumer and for industries as a whole. I'm also not sure you understand how language barriers, production budgets and global demand are the reasons why movies highly dependent on action with inconsequential plots and stories what drive these obscene piles of cash, as you put it.

How is it a monopoly? Jesus christ a genre can't be a monopoly. 

Edited May 20, 2018 by Mulder

[IronJimbo]

1 minute ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

I'd take a million MCU movies over "original" garbage like Avatar and Jupiter Ascending any day of the week.

I would take just one Avatar over the entire MCU

[RRA]

Just now, Mulder said:

How is it a monopoly? Jesus christ a monopoly can't be a genre.

Are they still trying to make a Monopoly movie?

[RRA]

Just now, IronJimbo said:

I would take just one Avatar over the entire MCU

I’ll take Abyss over Avatar 

[Thrylos 7]

2 minutes ago, YLF said:

It sucked. There was a guy sitting near me that just started looking at his phone half way through and I saw another person  that was asleep at the back of the theater when I went to the bathroom. 

 

Its a pseudo-intellectual film.

Yep caught it on Netflix , it wasn’t released in the theaters here and boy was it a doozy. If this is an example of a good original film, no wonder people will go to CBM instead.

 

Anyway don’t really see the problem, we have some great atmospheric horror films being huge hits (instead of the torture porn shitfests we had a few years back or even worse the pg-13 crap of the nineties), some good family classic entertainment films (like jumanji) doing fine, action films, the usual timeless franchises like bond  and Star Wars seriously what do people expect from blockbuster films ? We went from muscular macho men in the eighties being basically comic book heroes to the michael bay school of thought about blockbusters in the nineties to CBM nowadays . I consider a movie like infinity war a huge upgrade in terms of quality compared to Armageddon or Independence Day , for example. Newsflash, movies like the original blade runner for example were box office flops even back in the day.

[grey ghost]

9 minutes ago, LonePirate said:

You really have no grasp of the concept of how bad monopolies are for the consumer and for industries as a whole. I'm also not sure you understand how language barriers, production budgets and global demand are the reasons why movies highly dependent on action with inconsequential plots and stories what drive these obscene piles of cash, as you put it.

Oh please.

 

You act like movie goers are forced to support IW and BP.

 

Yeah the same way they were forced to see Lone Ranger, Tomorrowland and John Carter.

 

If people didn't absolutely love superhero movies the box office numbers would've reflected it by now.

 

Having said that.

 

There are two superhero movies per season. On average.

 

Hardly a monopoly.

 

But MCU could make 4 billion from 3 movies. Why would Disney go back to the Tomorrowland and John Carter, "every tent pole is a huge gamble" days? 

Edited May 20, 2018 by grey ghost

[IronJimbo]

Just now, RRA said:

I’ll take Abyss over Avatar 

yeah I would take that over the MCU aswell

[That One Girl]

Annihilation isn't gonna be a film that everyone likes, but to try to invalidate what it has to say by dismissing it as pseudo-intellectualism is just ignorant.

[Zakiyyah6]

I like The Abyss, Avatar is unmemorable junk though.

[Nova]

#SuperheroFatigue 

 

 

[IronJimbo]

Just now, Zakiyyah6 said:

I like The Abyss, Avatar is unmemorable junk though.

You really don't like Avatar do you! I hope you don't make it a point to route for Avatar 2's box office failure because if you get too heavily invested in that you're in for a world of despair.

[ZeeSoh]

4 minutes ago, LonePirate said:

You really have no grasp of the concept of how bad monopolies are for the consumer and for industries as a whole. I'm also not sure you understand how language barriers, production budgets and global demand are the reasons why movies highly dependent on action with inconsequential plots and stories what drive these obscene piles of cash, as you put it.

Watching 50 movies gives one a grasp of finance and monopolies and makes one condescending. Gotcha! And seeing that I am not from US and English is not my first language I am perfectly placed to understand all of the above. 

 

Now if you could come out of dreamland and realise we live in a capitalist world, I would like to ask what is your realistic solution to this problem coz making less of the movies that makes a boatload of cash for hollywood is sure as hell not a realistic or attractive option for hollywood. It’s dandy one can cry about problems but coming up with realistic solutions (making fewer CBM is the opposite of realistic)is a lot harder. 

[Mulder]

Also jesus christ even if you don't enjoy something doesn't mean nobody else can or will. I'm not huge on Harry Potter, should I just demand Warner Bros stops making Harry Potter movies? Film fans are so entitled at times.

[LonePirate]

9 minutes ago, Mulder said:

How is it a monopoly? Jesus christ a genre can't be a monopoly. 

Geez, you really do not understand. It is pretty much the only genre nowadays that receives anything approaching a budget that is not chump change. 

[Mulder]

Just now, LonePirate said:

Geez, you really do not understand. It is pretty much the only genre nowadays that receives anything approaching a budget that is not chump change. 

Have you hit your head or something because this is fundamentally untrue. Nor does a giant budget=/=quality. Most "original" films don't need massive budgets anyways. 

[Thrylos 7]

But even if you like avatar (and basically only Cameron films)  , like ironjimbo , why blame CBM ? Cameron basically  had a blank check after titanic to make as many movies as he wanted, how is it the .CBM genre to blame that he decided that he would make ONE movie in the next 20+ years and then instead of taking advantage of avatar’s success and “blessing” us with more original “masterpieces” he would commit himself to making avatar sequels (with the first one being released 10+ years after the original) until he dies ? Shouldn’t someone who likes Cameron movies, I don’t know , blame Cameron for basically being inactive when he could be making whatever movies he wanted with unlimited budgets ? 

Edited May 20, 2018 by Thrylos 7