Weekend Thread | Hotel 3 $44.1 Skyscraper 25.4, Ant Man’s size does matter with $28.8M

[TalismanRing]

Just now, filmlover said:

And the draw for that movie was most likely the promise of mass destruction.

Isn't Skyscraper supposed to  be The Towering Inferno's pseudo offspring ad much as Die Hard?   Though this one was missing a cast of stars being immolated or running for their lives.

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

4 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

He's doing 2-3 movies a year and Ballers, I think he has to learn to say no and turn down projects. 

Does he though? He's getting paid a crap ton to do these things, he's not gonna be this in-demand forever no matter how much or little he does, might as well strike while the iron is hot.

[filmlover]

Just now, TalismanRing said:

Isn't Skyscraper supposed to  be The Towering Inferno's pseudo offspring ad much as Die Hard?   Though this one was missing a cast of stars being immolated or running for their lives.

San Andreas promised all of California getting destroyed while Skyscraper takes place entirely in a single tower. That's a much more limited scope.

[dxmatrixdt]

$2,600,000 preview for Hotel 3 w/o the additional 1.2 advanced previews

$1,950,000 preview for Skyscraper w/o super sneaks (I think)

 

2,950 locations from Skyscraper

3,276 from Hotel 3 Thursday @ 5pm +

 

$9.16 avg. ticket price and purchases per location w/ this price.

 

Hotel Transylvania 3 - ($2,600,000) divided amongst 3,276 theaters divided amongst avg. increment value/purchase of $9.16. 

($2.6x10^6)(1/3,276 location)(1/9.16 purchase) = 86.6 purchase/location ~ 87

 

Skyscraper - ($1.95x10^6)/((3,276)(9.16)) = 72 purchases per location

 

 

87 purchases - HT3

71 purchases - Sky

 

4x the per theater average of Hotel 3 from Thursday to Friday would give (87/location)(4)($9.16)(4,267 location) = 13.6.  w/ previews being 2.6 + 1.2, that is 17.4 OD.  Would need a 19% from true Friday to Saturday to get to 16.2 Saturday.  A casual 22.5% drop on Sunday makes 12.6 Sunday, 46.2.  I think it will go between 3.5-4x previews, but 50 could be there too.

 

If Skyscraper goes from 71 purchases Thursday to an amazing 210 purchases Friday 2.96x, that would make a full OD of $9.225m including previews.  (7.275 minus previews)  A 19% increase on Saturday to 250 purchase increments of value/3,762 location makes 8.66m, and 22.5% drop 6.71 Sunday, 24.6 full weekend.  

 

Ant-Man flopped on Wednesday and Thursday, so anything could happen.

[TalismanRing]

Just now, Jayhawk said:

Does he though? He's getting paid a crap ton to do these things, he's not gonna be this in-demand forever no matter how much or little he does, might as well strike while the iron is hot.

He's going to burn through his demand faster if he keeps overbooking poor and mediocre projects that then financially under perform.  This has a $129m budget and while China will probably bring in big enough numbers like Rampage to make the WW B.O. look good one would believe Universal and WB both hoped for better U.S. returns (with those far nicer ancillaries) on their 2018 Rockbusters.

[dxmatrixdt]

Skyscraper will benefit from summer weekdays though.  Something Jupiter Ascending failed to obtain.

[baumer]

3 hours ago, Jayhawk said:

Does he though? He's getting paid a crap ton to do these things, he's not gonna be this in-demand forever no matter how much or little he does, might as well strike while the iron is hot.

 

Yep, you can't blame him for taking the money being offered.  

 

About 5 years ago, someone interviewed Stallone and brought up Over The Top and asked him why he did that movie.  He said that the producers (Golan and Globus) at first offered him 5 million to do it and he declined.  They came back a month later and offered him 7.5 and he declined.  They kept upping it and finally at 15 million he couldn't refuse.  He says he knew it was going to be shit but when you have that much money thrown in your face, how do you refuse it?  If producers are offering Johnson obscene amounts of money to be in films right now, how can he say no.  I think going forward, maybe studios and execs will realize that you need more than one name to sell a film.  

[Firepower]

7 minutes ago, filmlover said:

And the draw for that movie was most likely the promise of mass destruction.

Then why Geostorm didn't have 50+ OW?

[TalismanRing]

3 minutes ago, filmlover said:

San Andreas promised all of California getting destroyed while Skyscraper takes place entirely in a single tower. That's a much more limited scope.

That's why you need the stars

 

The Towering Inferno
 

Domestic Total Adj. Gross: $562,201,100 Distributor: Fox Release Date: December 14, 1974 Genre: Action Thriller Runtime: 2 hrs. 45 min. MPAA Rating: PG Production Budget: $14 million   vs     Earthquake   Domestic Total Adj. Gross: $386,109,300 Distributor: Universal Release Date: November 15, 1974 Genre: Action Thriller Runtime: 2 hrs. 3 min. MPAA Rating: PG Production Budget: $7 million

[KJsooner]

Happy Friday the 13th @baumer. My rankings of the original series.

 

Jason Lives

Friday the 13th

Friday the 13th part 2

Friday the 13th the final chapter

Jason goes to hell

Friday the 13th part 3

New Blood

Jason X

New Beginnings

 

 

 

 

Jason takes Manhattan

[filmlover]

Luckily for The Rock, his 2019 projects look like far safer bets (the Fast/Furious spin-off, Disney's Jungle Cruise opposite Emily Blunt, the Jumanji sequel) than either of his 2018 films (a video game adaptation and a Die Hard knock-off).

[Rebeccas]

The Rock also isn't going to become some Academy Award winning character actor in later years so he's right to take advantage of his situation right now.

[baumer]

3 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

That's why you need the stars

 

The Towering Inferno
 

Domestic Total Adj. Gross: $562,201,100 Distributor: Fox Release Date: December 14, 1974 Genre: Action Thriller Runtime: 2 hrs. 45 min. MPAA Rating: PG Production Budget: $14 million   vs     Earthquake   Domestic Total Adj. Gross: $386,109,300 Distributor: Universal Release Date: November 15, 1974 Genre: Action Thriller Runtime: 2 hrs. 3 min. MPAA Rating: PG Production Budget: $7 million

 

Right, and Towering Inferno had two of the biggest stars in the world in that film.  Maybe if they would have had one more name in Skyscraper, it would have done a lot better.

[Jonwo]

1 minute ago, filmlover said:

And the draw for that movie was most likely the promise of mass destruction.

We've seen before with films like 2012 and The Day After Tomorrow that people love a good disaster film. Rampage had destruction AND monsters.

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, Firepower said:

Then why Geostorm didn't have 50+ OW?

That movie looked like crap and the studio knew it was, which is why it was moved all over the release date schedule for almost two years and ultimately dumped in late October.

[baumer]

3 hours ago, KJsooner said:

Happy Friday the 13th @baumer. My rankings of the original series.

 

Jason Lives

Friday the 13th

Friday the 13th part 2

Friday the 13th the final chapter

Jason goes to hell

Friday the 13th part 3

New Blood

Jason X

New Beginnings

 

 

 

 

Jason takes Manhattan

 

LL...thanks buddy.  I don't want to piss everyone off and hi-jack the thread.....but for what it's worth (sorry everyone):

 

Final Chapter

Part Three

Original 

Part 2

Part 5

Remake

Part 6

Part 7

Jason goes to Hell

Jason X

Jason Takes Man

 

 

 

[Jonwo]

5 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

He's going to burn through his demand faster if he keeps overbooking poor and mediocre projects that then financially under perform.  This has a $129m budget and while China will probably bring in big enough numbers like Rampage to make the WW B.O. look good one would believe Universal and WB both hoped for better U.S. returns (with those far nicer ancillaries) on their 2018 Rockbusters.

I agree, I think 2 movies a year plus Ballers would be more than enough. 

 

I can't believe Skyscraper cost more than Rampage considering Rampage has significantly more VFX.

[baumer]

Well Skyscraper might do really well internationally.  At this point I don't know.  

[Krissykins]

Skyscraper also has a lot of upcoming direct competition, Equalizer then MI, then a break for a weekend then the Meg. 

 

 

[dxmatrixdt]

5 minutes ago, Firepower said:

Then why Geostorm didn't have 50+ OW?

what if they just re-release films.  like every single movie from a specific year.  does a theater holding a picture for a month feed the world to where the pictures would gross maybe an additional 1-50% if lucky?