Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1 | July 12 2023 | 99% on Rotten Tomatoes! | 290M budget so far, Cruise holding Paramount hostage for more money

[AnDr3s]

even with top gun's insane numbers i don't see MI:7 doing more than 300m domestic

[Zucch11]

On 3/24/2022 at 10:16 AM, Ryan Reynolds said:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/tom-cruise-mission-impossible-paramount-1235116830/

 

no wonder McQuarrie is all but gone from social media too , this sounds bad , Paramount can't lose Tom

 

This is hilarious to read now in hindsight of the Top Gun: Maverick run. Cruise literally vindicated on not accepting the 45 day theatrical window. If it was gonna show up on Paramount+ after 45 days I doubt TGM would be doing this well. Considering the incredible holds this film is showing, it is probably going to do like ~20 million weekend the week of day 45. Paramount now has no leg to stand on against Cruise.

They are gonna have to agree to lifting the 45 day window for MI:7/8 and give Cruise/McQuarrie all the money they want for those movies. I can't believe they were trying to "control" the budget in the first place. Give Crusie/McQuarrie whatever they want, not that Paramount has a choice now after TGM. They have no leverage on Cruise after TGM results.

 

Tom Cruise walking into his next meeting with Paramount execs to negotiate MI:7/8's theatrical window and budget:

 

 

Edited June 18, 2022 by Zucch11

[Napoleon]

1 hour ago, Zucch11 said:

 

This is hilarious to read now in hindsight of the Top Gun: Maverick run. Cruise literally vindicated on not accepting the 45 day theatrical window. If it was gonna show up on Paramount+ after 45 days I doubt TGM would be doing this well. Considering the incredible holds this film is showing, it is probably going to do like ~20 million weekend the week of day 45. Paramount now has no leg to stand on against Cruise.

They are gonna have to agree to lifting the 45 day window for MI:7/8 and give Cruise/McQuarrie all the money they want for those movies. I can't believe they were trying to "control" the budget in the first place. Give Crusie/McQuarrie whatever they want, not that Paramount has a choice now after TGM. They have no leverage on Cruise after TGM results.

 

Tom Cruise walking into his next meeting with Paramount execs to negotiate MI:7/8's theatrical window and budget:

 

 

Top Gun is having a great box office run but it's also not doing anything to help Paramount's long term strategy on streaming. I bet they haven't changed their minds about having a 45-day theatrical window, and they'd rather sacrifice a few millions of Top Gun's late legs in order to have more people signing up to Paramount+ to watch the movie, getting hooked on their content and keeping their subscription forever. That's not to say Cruise is wrong to fight for longer theatrical windows if he gets more money that way.

[Macleod]

This is why Cruise was so good as Les Grossman -- he's a master Producer (especially with his own central properties like Top Gun, Mission) -- he lives it every day, just with a full head of hair!  

[EmpireCity]

3 hours ago, Napoleon said:

Top Gun is having a great box office run but it's also not doing anything to help Paramount's long term strategy on streaming. I bet they haven't changed their minds about having a 45-day theatrical window, and they'd rather sacrifice a few millions of Top Gun's late legs in order to have more people signing up to Paramount+ to watch the movie, getting hooked on their content and keeping their subscription forever. That's not to say Cruise is wrong to fight for longer theatrical windows if he gets more money that way.

 

This right here is the biggest misconception about streaming.  How is putting movies on Paramount+ at 45 days instead of 90 days or even 120 days increasing their subscriptions or causing people to keep their subscriptions?  

 

Spolier alert, the reality that nobody wants to talk about is that it doesn't affect it one single impactful bit.  Once a movie goes to streaming, it lives there forever.  All you do by sending it there early is cut the legs out of the 3 tiered revenue stream that makes the maximum amount of money.  

 

Also, there is nothing in the world for movies like the entire theatrical infrastructure to give clout and legitimacy to movies.  That is why movies that release in theaters with exclusive windows stay around in the minds of the public and on the radar compared to movies that go right to streaming that are watched and forgotten almost instantly.  

[LegendaryBen]

3 hours ago, Napoleon said:

Top Gun is having a great box office run but it's also not doing anything to help Paramount's long term strategy on streaming. I bet they haven't changed their minds about having a 45-day theatrical window, and they'd rather sacrifice a few millions of Top Gun's late legs in order to have more people signing up to Paramount+ to watch the movie, getting hooked on their content and keeping their subscription forever. That's not to say Cruise is wrong to fight for longer theatrical windows if he gets more money that way.

Are you seriously rooting for the movie to do horribly? I hope not.

 

 Most, if not, all sources confirm will either Paramount+ (CEO of P+ confirmed) will easily extend the theatrical window or it is on a 120 day window. @EmpireCity will confirm that Paramount is not shortening their window.

Edited June 18, 2022 by LegendaryBen

[lorddemaxus]

28 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

  That is why movies that release in theaters with exclusive windows stay around in the minds of the public and on the radar compared to movies that go right to streaming that are watched and forgotten almost instantly.  

Dune is remembered pretty well, so was Encanto, Luca, and Godzilla vs Kong. I'm pretty sure The Batman and EEAO will be remembered more than most movies releasing this year even with a shorter than usual theatrical window. It literally doesn't matter as long as people think the movie is good.

Edited June 18, 2022 by lorddemaxus

[TomCruiseTop]

38 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

Also, there is nothing in the world for movies like the entire theatrical infrastructure to give clout and legitimacy to movies.  That is why movies that release in theaters with exclusive windows stay around in the minds of the public and on the radar compared to movies that go right to streaming that are watched and forgotten almost instantly.  

There is nothing like a proper press tour to really ingrain a movie in the mind of the public. Seeing those jets at the TGM premiere will certainly stick in my mind far better than any movie I ever heard of on a streaming service.

[Napoleon]

2 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

 

This right here is the biggest misconception about streaming.  How is putting movies on Paramount+ at 45 days instead of 90 days or even 120 days increasing their subscriptions or causing people to keep their subscriptions?  

 

Spolier alert, the reality that nobody wants to talk about is that it doesn't affect it one single impactful bit.  Once a movie goes to streaming, it lives there forever.  All you do by sending it there early is cut the legs out of the 3 tiered revenue stream that makes the maximum amount of money.  

 

Also, there is nothing in the world for movies like the entire theatrical infrastructure to give clout and legitimacy to movies.  That is why movies that release in theaters with exclusive windows stay around in the minds of the public and on the radar compared to movies that go right to streaming that are watched and forgotten almost instantly.  

While in theory it makes more sense to let a movie make as much as it can in theaters, and then on PVOD and DVD, until finally coming to a SVOD service, Netflix by skipping all of those revenue streams is already generating more money than the entirety of the Paramount Global conglomerate. Audiences will give studios more money by paying a monthly subscription fee forever than by buying tickets and home video rentals for the titles they're interested in.

 

With a shortened window, studios can explore a big theatrical title on their streaming service while the movie is still fresh in people's minds, without sacrificing the bulk of what they make in ticket sales, which is in those first 45 days. It's been the perfect strategy to boost the streaming side of their business without hurting significantly their theatrical business.

[TomCruiseTop]

8 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

With a shortened window, studios can explore a big theatrical title on their streaming service while the movie is still fresh in people's minds, without sacrificing the bulk of what they make in ticket sales, which is in those first 45 days. It's been the perfect strategy to boost the streaming side of their business without hurting significantly their theatrical business.

If people dodge seeing it in the theatre knowing they can catch it on streaming then it is hurting the business.

[Eric Furiosa]

Don't you guys ever get tired of fighting over "streaming vs. theatrical"?

[EmpireCity]

4 hours ago, Eric Lightyear said:

Don't you guys ever get tired of fighting over "streaming vs. theatrical"?

 

Don’t you ever get tired being wrong at every turn about it?

[Alex SciChannel]

5 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

 

Don’t you ever get tired being wrong at every turn about it?

Bru 💀

[John Marston]

Are people expecting this to beat Indiana Jones 5? I think it will 

[BruiseCruise]

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1543581069781487616?s=20&t=CS56_vjYd2pZI06K1tSBeQ

[Eric Furiosa]

 

[EmpireCity]

I've seen the footage of both stunts in full and how they did them.  Tom Cruise is our greatest movie star of all time.  

[CaptNathanBrittles]

DOM: $285m

WW: $850m

[John Marston]

25 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

I've seen the footage of both stunts in full and how they did them.  Tom Cruise is our greatest movie star of all time.  

 

 

how much are you predicting  this will make?

[longleo90]

32 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

Tôi đã xem đầy đủ cảnh quay của cả hai pha nguy hiểm và cách họ thực hiện chúng. Tom Cruise là ngôi sao điện ảnh vĩ đại nhất mọi thời đại của chúng ta.  

In Vietnam, we call him the last true hollywood superstar