IT: CHAPTER TWO WEEKEND THREAD | 91M DOM, 94M OS, 185M WW | Read first post for rules

[lab276]

12 minutes ago, TMP said:

Or maybe other studios should start making good movies too??

 

But Disney just got big by buying out a bunch of stuff like Pixar and Marvel and Star Wars and Fox. And yet they still release fewer movies than any other studio.

 

They’re making all this money and very pointedly are not spending it making many other movies. They have tent poles, but nothing under the tent. 

 

Would the industry be better off if Disney had to give away their rights to Marvel, Star Wars and Fox? If it was not one company that had access to all these brands, but four, or even five? I think so. 

[lab276]

But that’s enough OT, $38m isn’t that bad tbh. Like someone said the previous page, it only looks bad against It1’s exceptional returns. 

[RealLyre]

Disney knows what type of movies the general audience would love to see in a theater, and they keep making more of them. it's not hard to understand. 

[Krissykins]

2 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

Disney knows what type of movies the general audience would love to see in a theater, and they keep making more of them. it's not hard to understand. 

Ones they’ve seen before, clearly. 

[RealLyre]

11 minutes ago, lab276 said:

 

 

 

Would the industry be better off if Disney had to give away their rights to Marvel, Star Wars and Fox? If it was not one company that had access to all these brands, but four, or even five? I think so. 

if that means we wouldn't be getting Marvel/Star Wars films of Disney's quality then no, that would not be good for the industry cus people will just not go to the movies lmao. 

 

 

also you can't blame Disney for focusing on blockbusters when they're the only films capable of making billions.  

Edited September 7, 2019 by RealLyre
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[RealLyre]

Just now, Krissykins said:

Ones they’ve seen before, clearly. 

outside of superhero movies and animation, Nostalgic reboots/remakes have been carrying the box office this decade. Disney remakes, Jurassic Park, new Star Wars etc. 

 

 

[vafrow]

29 minutes ago, lab276 said:

 

Wow, that’s not great is it. Current biggest non-Disney/Marvel movie is Us with $175m, half as much as Endgame made in a single weekend. 

 

I think at some point Disney is gonna have to be broken up, because that’s not healthy for the industry. 

 

This seems like an anomaly year, where Disney loader up their biggest IP, while other studios cleared out. If this pattern continues in future years, there's reasons to fear for the competitive balance, but I expect to see more studio diversity in the top 5 at the box office next year. 

[George Parr]

Being good or not has little to do with anything. What matters is creating interest in a movie. It's not Disney's fault if other companies don't manage to achieve that quite as well as they have in the past. You also have to take into consideration what audience you are trying to reach. No matter how good Into the Spider-Verse may be, it's not exactly something that screams "this is a 4 quadrant movie!". You want a big hit, offer something that looks good and interests a ton of people. It's not like other studios haven't managed to achieve just that over the last few years either.

 

Believing that breaking up Disney would somehow change anything about that is absurd to say the least. People don't have a blind affiliation with a studio, they watch what interests them. No one goes "oh this movie looks nice, but it's not from Disney, so I'm not going to watch it". Other studios have the necessary money to produce and market their movies. The existence of Disney doesn't somehow prevent them from reaching people.

 

That doesn't even take into consideration that Disney owning multiple studios doesn't somehow mean that they are giving them explicit orders on what to do. From the sound of it, very much the opposite is actually the case. They let their studios decide, which is why they succeed. So what exactly is the problem? Would one of Disney's studios somehow produce something drastically different if they weren't part of Disney? No. Do all of Disney's studios produce movies by exactly the same formular? No. So where is the problem?

[filmlover]

IT 2 falling quite a bit from IT 1 is slightly disappointing but hardly surprising. The first movie just vastly overperformed to the point where this one had nowhere to go but down (even half the amount of what it made would've been very impressive for the horror genre), and on top of the fact "Adults v Killer Clown" just isn't as enticing of a hook as "Kids v Killer Clown." That said, a $90M opening for a horror movie certainly isn't anything to sneeze at whatsoever, and this is definitely a much-needed win for WB after a rough summer.

[RealLyre]

1 minute ago, vafrow said:

 

This seems like an anomaly year, where Disney loader up their biggest IP, while other studios cleared out. If this pattern continues in future years, there's reasons to fear for the competitive balance, but I expect to see more studio diversity in the top 5 at the box office next year. 

Or the whole box office will just decline massively next year. people aren't just magically going to go to the movies to see anything if there's no interest.  

[Jonwo]

37 minutes ago, TMP said:

Or maybe other studios should start making good movies too??

Being negative about WB again? 

[The Futurist]

Try make better movies than Disney.

And fail at it miserably.

[Jake Gittes]

4 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

Disney knows what type of movies the general audience would love to see in a theater, and they keep making more of them. it's not hard to understand. 

And by doing so they limit the types of movies the audience gets, and would love, to see in a theater, reducing other studios' interest in making and widely pushing them and the audience's interest in and chances of seeing them. Hollywood has literally never been more conservative in terms of what kinds of movies it commits to making and Disney is directly responsible for this, more than anyone else. Stop thinking like shareholders for chrissake. 

[Deja23]

Why should Disney be broken up because they have multiple currently popular IPs? They happened to release their heavy hitters this year, leading to a lopsided top 10. Owning Marvel, Star Wars, etc. isn’t what’s helped Disney, it’s allowing those substudios to make crowd pleasing movies. Other studios like WB have major IPs like Harry Potter, LOTR, DC, etc. If WB happened to release a bunch of movies in the same year from those IPs and they do great, would people also be calling for them to be broken up? Having multiple IPs isn’t the issue, Disney just decided to stack this year in preparation for Disney+. They don’t even release a lot of movies, they just released the ones they know will interest the GA. Not their fault and not something they should be punished for. Idk why people act like just because they personally don’t like the movies Disney makes, those movies shouldn’t be made.

[Krissykins]

4 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

Try make better movies than Disney.

And fail at it miserably.

Um, only 3 or their films got positive reviews this year. 

 

But yeh Disney is having a big year with its sequels and remakes. I don’t think they’ll be able to repeat it. We’ll see, challenge is on. 

 

The yearly box office is still down anyway. So despite that one studios big year, it’s not a banner year for box office so, overall meh. 

Edited September 7, 2019 by Krissykins

[sfran43]

 

[RealLyre]

1 minute ago, Jake Gittes said:

 And by doing so they limit the types of movies the audience gets, and would love, to see in a theater, reducing other studios' interest in making and widely pushing them and the audience's interest in and chances of seeing them. Hollywood has literally never been more conservative in terms of what kinds of movies it commits to making and Disney is directly responsible for this, more than anyone else. Stop thinking like shareholders for chrissake. 

I don't see how they limit the types of movies the audience gets. they don't force them to watch anything. every weekend there is a non-Disney film in wide release somewhere. 

this isn't a Disney issue, more of Hollywood catering to the GA. ( which is kinda how business works, the more you know huh)  

 

if you don't want blockbusters (Disney or not) to rule the box office, you can start telling that to the millions of people who pay to watch them on opening weekend. 

 

[sfran43]

 

Edited September 7, 2019 by sfran43

[sfran43]

 

[The Futurist]

I watch Disney movies movies because they put a gun on my face.

That must be it.

Make sperfect sense.