Top 50 Musicals! FYC Closed! Final List Goes Up CATS OW!

[Cap]

 

BOT’s Top 50 Movie Musicals

 

 

The forums are alive with the sound of music.  With songs they have sung for ninety-two years since a musical, Warner Brother’s 1927 The Jazz Singer, became the first Hollywood film with sync’d sound.

 

As we merrily rolled along, we’ve visited cabarets on the way to the forum, sung about all that jazz on some enchanted evening, danced el tango del Roxanne as an American in Paris, and eased on down the yellow brick road, all to this moment:

 

 

 

 

In honor of the MEMORIES _{(and the death of the Movie Musical until Our Lord And Savior Arrives June 2020)}, I got the go ahead to Emcee List of The Top 50 Movie Musicals.

 

 

 

List Submission

 

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I will respond back with a "thank you, received" once it's been counted.

 

I will accept partial lists.  Max List: Top 50.  Min List: Top 15.

 

If you tinker with your list after submission, please, highlight what you've changed in your original message or update it in its own message.  I don't want to accidentally miss something!  

 

When you submit your list, please with your Top 10, free free to send in any blurbs and/or say what's your favorite musical number.  I will try and work them into the write-ups.

 

Dates

 

 

FYC Thread and Open Submissions:

September 6 - November 23, 2019

 

List Deadline:

November 24, 2019

(Frozen II OW)

 

List Reveal and Countdown:

December 17-22, 2019

(Cats OW)

 

Scoring

 

 

Rank	Points		Rank	Points		Rank	Points
1	15		6-10	10		31-35	5
2	14		11-15	9		36-40	4
3	13		16-20	8		41-45	3
4	12		21-25	7		46-50	2
5	11		26-30	6		--	--

 

Ties will be broken by:

 

Round One: Number of First Place Votes
Round Two: Number of Lists Film Appears on

Round Three: Average List Ranking

 

Eligibility

 

 All films released up to November 20, 2019 will be eligible.  

 

I will not be restricting adaptations. Want to put all three versions of Annie on your list? Awesome.

 

I’m defining Musicals as:

• Character sings and/or dances in scene;
• The songs and/or choreography are a significant part of the film;
• The musical numbers are essential to the character’s emotional development and/or plot progression of the story/media.

 

The best way to think about it is this: Mel Brook's 1967 The Producers is not a Movie Musicals.  The 2005 movie, based on the Broadway Musical, based on the 1967 movie, IS.

 

 

 

 

A detailed breakdown:

 

Not Eligible:

• Movies with ONE iconic song/number (i.e.: Slumdog Millionaire, Captain America: The First Avenger)
• Movies with amazing soundtracks (i.e. Pulp Fiction, Almost Famous)
• Concert Films and Documentaries (i.e. U2’s Rattle and Hum, Beyonce’s Homecoming) 
• Concert Films of Musicals (i.e 10th Anniversary Les Mis Dream Cast, 2001’s Sweeney Todd) 
• Filmed staged productions of the musical (i.e. The Cats VHS, 2010’s Company)
• Filmed Live-To-Tape TV Specials (NBC's Sound of Music, FOX's Grease)
• MGM's That Entertainment!, Part II, and Part III are disqualified due to them being giant clip shows.

 

Eligible:

• Live Action Musicals (i.e. The Sound of Music, The Wizard of Oz)
• Animated Musicals (i.e The Little Mermaid or South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut)
• Jutebox Musicals (i.e. Tommy, Across The Universe)
• Jutebox Musicals Starring Musicians (i.e. A Hard Day’s Night, Purple Rain)
• Musicals BioPics (i.e. Yankee Doodle Dandy, Funny Girl)
• Non-Hollywood Musicals (i.e. Umbrellas of Cherbourg, Aashiqui)
• Feature Length Made-For-TV Movie Musicals (i.e. Brandy's Cinderella, High School Musical)

 

I polled several users about that last one.  Votes came back 4 Yes, 4 No, 1 It Doesn't Matter.  We also had a long conversation about whether or not to include musician biopics that don't technically follow musical rules.

 

It was [a very sage friend who's like 'sure blame me' when I suggested I give them credit] that made the most compelling comment: it's a community list.  So in that spirit: we're going to let all musicals in and let the votes make the ultimate call.

 

 

 

If y'all want to form a coalition and power rank 2003's Music Man with Matthew Broderick as The Best Musical Ever, I love it.  If y'all want to hold a revival to evangelize for the next two months that 2003's Music Man with Matthew Broderick is the worst musical of all time, I love it.  Just send me a list and I'll count it.  I'm so beyond excited.  Let's have a gay old time this holiday season as we celebrate fifty amazing musicals and mock Cats.

 

 

 

[Cap]

Resources

 

Whenever we do these lists, I always see posts expressing "I wish I had seen more" or "Oh I forgot that one!"  So I took the liberty of doing some Pre-Gaming.   

 

 

AFI's Greatest Musicals Official Ballot

PDF of 180 Hollywood Musicals Nominated for AFI's 25 Greatest Musicals in 2006.

 

Rotten Tomatoes 100 Greatest Musical Movies of All Time

Greatest According to RT Reviews

 

BOM: Top Grossing Musicals Since 1974

 

Numbers: All Time Worldwide Box Office for Musical Movies

 

Complete List of MGM Musicals

 

IMDB's "Top" Musicals

An endless list of Musicals you can sort through via IMDB Popularity, Rating, Etc. (A @Plain Old Tele Caution on this, make sure to verify the movie's tagged right.)

 

Wiki: List of Musical Films By Year

 

 

 

 

I'm gonna be honest: the BEST resource to brush up on your Shakespeare Musicals is YouTube.  Channels like Fandango's MovieClips, DisneyMusicVevo, and WarnerAchive have tons and tons of clips.  Individual Star Channels like Rodgers & Hammerstein or a quick search of "Judy Garland" are rabbit holes of goodness.  

 

While prepping for this list, I assembled two playlists (A-L) and (M-Z) featuring about a hundred or so musicals.  Most musicals have three videos.  If you click the three bars in the corner, you can scroll through.  They are in ABC order. 

 

 

 

 

This is not an official list.  This is not MY list.  This is not a comprehensive list (I know, I know, stuff's missing).  It is simply... "a very good place to start."  I mostly pulled Musicals that I thought had the best HQ videos. 

 

There are also a couple of musicals in Public Domain!  Here are some that are on YouTube.

 

 

 

 

 

If you can get past the TCM.com paywall (aka, have a cable sub or a friend's cable sub), here is their schedule for October.  These are when the movies air, and then they are normally available on TCM.com for another 5 days.

 

November 1: Having A Wild Weekend (1965)

 

November 5: Fashions of 1934 (1934)

 

November 7: On The Town (1949)

 

November 10: The Unsinkable Molly Brown (1964)

 

November 13: The Red Shoes (1948)

 

November 14: Broadway Gondolier (1935), Dames (1934), Irene (1940)

 

November 17: Du Barry Was A Lady (1943)

 

November 18: On The Town (1949), No Leave, No Leave (1946), The Stork Club (1945)

 

November 20: Cabaret (1972)

 

November 21: The Glass Slipper (1955)

 

November 22: A Hard Day’s Night (1964)

 

November 24: Annie Get Your Gun (1950)

 

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The Criterion Channel <-- link!

 

Offers a 14 Day Free Trail!!  The month features the following 18 MGM Musicals:

 

An American in Paris (Vincente Minnelli, 1951)

Brigadoon (Vincente Minnelli, 1954)

Broadway Melody of 1940 (Norman Taurog, 1940)

Cabin in the Sky (Vincente Minnelli, 1943)

Easter Parade (Charles Walters, 1948)

For Me and My Gal (Busby Berkeley, 1942)

Give a Girl a Break (Stanley Donen, 1953)

I Love Melvin (Don Weis, 1953)

In the Good Old Summertime (Robert Z. Leonard, 1949)

It’s Always Fair Weather (Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly, 1955)

Lili (Charles Walters, 1953)

Meet Me in St. Louis (Vincente Minnelli, 1944)

On the Town (Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly, 1949)

Summer Stock (Charles Walters, 1950)

The Band Wagon (Vincente Minnelli, 1953)

The Barkleys of Broadway (Charles Walters, 1949)

The Harvey Girls (George Sidney, 1946)

The Pirate (Vincente Minnelli, 1948)

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (Stanley Donen, 1954)
 

They also have That’s Entertainment! (Jack Haley Jr., 1974), but it's not eligible.

 

This is a really good selection of MGM Musicals.  The only Big Two missing are Singin' In the Rain and The Wizard of Oz.
 

 

 

 

2014 BOT Movie Musical List

 

This List was previously done by @Films five years ago as a "Top 25".  Below are all 88 nominated movies, ranked by vote point total.

 

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Rank	Movie	Points
1	Aladdin	212
2	Frozen	205
	The Lion King	205
3	Beauty and The Beast	186
4	Tangled	144
5	Mary Poppins	132
6	The Wizard of Oz	131
7	South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut	126
8	The Little Mermaid	104
9	The Sound of Music	89
10	The Nightmare Before Christmas	84
11	The Muppets	73
12	Moulin Rouge	72
13	Singin' In The Rain	70
14	Sweeney Todd	68
15	Grease	66
16	Les Miserables	64
17	Mulan	61
18	West Side Story	58
19	The Jungle Book	57
20	Enchanted	56
	The Blue Brothers	56
21	Fiddler On The Roof	55
22	Dr. Horribl's Sing-Along Blog	50
23	Mamma Mia	49
24	My Fair Lady	44
	Pinocchio	44
25	Dumbo	42
	The Rocky Horror Picture Show	42
26	Hercules	40
	Lady And The Tramp	40
	Disney's Robin Hood	40
27	Cabaret	38
28	Peter Pan	37
	The Producers (1967)	37
29	The Prince of Egypt	30
30	Hairspray	27
31	A Hard Day's Night	26
	Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory	26
32	Kal Ho Naa Ho	25
33	High School Muscal	23
34	Tenacious D In The Pick of Destiny	22
35	Meet Me in St. Louis	21
36	An American In Paris	20
	Dreamgirls	20
	Kuch Kuch Hota Hai	20
	March Of The Wooden Soldiers	20
	The Muppets Christmas Carol	20
	Tarzan	20
37	Anastasia	18
38	Amadeus	15
	Annie	15
	Dil Chahta Hai	15
	Holiday Inn	15
	The Hutchback of Notre Dame	15
	Imaginarium	15
	Inside Llewyn Davis	15
	The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh	15
	Phantom Of The Opera	15
	The Road To El Dorado	15
	Some Like It Hot	15
39	All That Jazz	14
40	101 Dalmatians	12
	Jesus Christ Superstar	12
	The Music Man	12
41	Bambi	10
	Bye Bye Birdie	10
	Cannibal The Musical	10
	High School Musical 2	10
	Lagaan	10
	The Last Waltz	10
	The Princess And The Frog	10
	Rent	10
	Repo! The Genetic Opera	10
	Sleeping Beauty	10
	Sword In The Stone	10
42	Chicago	8
	Duck Soup	8
43	Saturday Night Fever	7
44	Dil Se	6
	Doctor Doolittle	6
	Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs	6
	A Star Is Born	6
	Yellow Submarine	6
45	A Chorus Line	5
46	Charlie And The Chocolate Factory	4
	Chitty Chitty Bang Bang	4
	Cinderella	4

 

[CoolioD1]

1. Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny

 

the rest I’ll figure out later.

[YM!]

FYC:

 

 

Edited September 5, 2019 by YourMother the Edgelord

[Eric the Marxist]

fyc

 

 

[lorddemaxus]

7 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

FYC:

 

Can't wait to watch this in the weekend. Huge Steven Universe fan and I'm hearing it's great.

Edited September 5, 2019 by lorddemaxus

[Eric the Marxist]

@captainwondyful

 

I know you have the eligible list up, but what about movies like Walk the Line or Bohemian Rhapsody? They may not technically be musicals in the sense of certain other films, or even other biopics like Rocketman, but those movies still feature multiple scenes of music and singing and dancing on stage. Do they count?

[Jake Gittes]

FYC (my #1)

 

 

 

[YM!]

11 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

Can't wait to watch this in the weekend. Huge Steven Universe fan and I'm hearing it's great.

Best Animated Movie of the year so far, it makes me want to get back into SU.

[YM!]

FYC numero dos:

 

 

[Cap]

4 hours ago, Eric! said:

@captainwondyful

 

I know you have the eligible list up, but what about movies like Walk the Line or Bohemian Rhapsody? They may not technically be musicals in the sense of certain other films, or even other biopics like Rocketman, but those movies still feature multiple scenes of music and singing and dancing on stage. Do they count?

That is legit what we had the three week discussion on, and why ultimately I decided to let everything in and see where it falls. 

 

Personally, I don't think Walk The Line, Ray, Straight Outta Compton, Bohemian Rhapsody, etc are musicals.  Musician Biopics tend to follow their own rules, even if they're movies with music.  Those films are structured that even if you take out the songs/numbers out, the movie still basically holds up.  They'd be a lot more boring, but the plot would still be there.  That's why I think Rocketman is a musical.  It's structured as classic jutebox musical, and it'd be a very different film without the fantasy sequences.

 

That. All. Said.

 

This is just my opinion. 

 

I've chosen not to disqualify them.  If folks want to put 'em on, I'll count them.

 

 

Edited September 6, 2019 by captainwondyful
typo

[TalismanRing]

12 minutes ago, Eric! said:

@captainwondyful

 

I know you have the eligible list up, but what about movies like Walk the Line or Bohemian Rhapsody? They may not technically be musicals in the sense of certain other films, or even other biopics like Rocketman, but those movies still feature multiple scenes of music and singing and dancing on stage. Do they count?

Yes

 

Musicals BioPics (i.e. Yankee Doodle Dandy, Funny Girl) 

 

Yankee Doodle Dandy's musical numbers are stage numbers
 

[YM!]

FYC numero tres: @Ethan Hunt @Blankments

 

 

 

 

[TalismanRing]

I will accept partial lists.  Max List: Top 50.  Min List: Top 15.

 

I have 90 movies on my current list and I've yet to watch a few Bollywood musicals I want to get to.  I hate pruning.

 

 

[Cap]

7 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

I will accept partial lists.  Max List: Top 50.  Min List: Top 15.

 

I have 90 movies on my current list and I've yet to watch a few Bollywood musicals I want to get to.  I hate pruning.

 

 

Tehehe.  This is it's Fifty.  Cause 100 Seemed like "Let them all in", 25 seemed too restrictive, and 50 felt like "just enough that something's gonna miss and @Jake Gittes's gonna scream at us about TASTE."

 

 

[Jake Gittes]

1 minute ago, captainwondyful said:

Tehehe.  This is it's Fifty.  Cause 100 Seemed like "Let them all in", 25 seemed too restrictive, and 50 felt like "just enough that something's gonna miss and @Jake Gittes's gonna scream at us about TASTE."

 

 

Sitting here sighing heavily every time I remember that animation is eligible. 

[Dementeleus]

Is BAAHUBALI considered a musical? 🧐

[YM!]

1 minute ago, Jake Gittes said:

Sitting here sighing heavily every time I remember that animation is eligible. 

 

[narniadis]

Awesome!!! Will have to try and make sure I get this submitted.  Also glad I can throw a vote to Walk the Line.... 😉

[Cap]

3 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

Sitting here sighing heavily every time I remember that animation is eligible. 

I might have write up a post about why Bohemian Rhapsody is a good movie.  We have to make sacrifices for the good for the community!

 

3 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

Is BAAHUBALI considered a musical? 🧐

I'm like half way through the write up in preparation for you and @MrGamer power ranking it.