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2 minutes ago, Alex SciChannel said:

Is that a good increase for Raleigh? I'm over there and there's good word of mouth especially among families.

It seems alright, but not as good as I hoped.  I can look deeper once I finish pulling the other movies and get caught up at work

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1 hour ago, M37 said:

Jurassic World Dominion T-1 Roundup

Thought it might be useful for posterity to aggregate all of the T-1 data & comps into a single spot. So here it is

As someone posting the second biggest dataset I need some respect.👀

7 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Jurassic World: Dominion Harkins T-1 Day

 

Thursday - 14,590 on 493 shows ($180K)

Comps
101% 
of Top Gun 2 - $19.30M (90% of Gross, $17.3M)

38.5% of DSitMoM - $13.90M
211% 
of Eternals - $20M (200% of Gross, $19M)

 

Can't provide data in usual format as Harkins changed its website and will need time to adjust. Thanks to @Inceptionzq for working out the way to solve the issue. Better than what MTC 1 is suggesting but by tomorrow things may even out a bit like Sacramento.

 

 

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23 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
Black Phone T-15 Jax 6 16 -2 20 1,959 1.02%
    Phx 5 13 0 22 2,108 1.04%
    Ral 7 18 3 28 1,933 1.45%
  Total   18 47 1 70 6,000 1.17%
Black Phone (EA) T-2 Jax 1 1 19 19 60 31.67%
    Phx 1 1 17 17 106 16.04%
  Total   2 2 36 36 166 21.69%
Elvis T-15 Jax 6 26 7 69 4,520 1.53%
    Phx 6 16 7 54 2,103 2.57%
    Ral 8 20 9 57 2,074 2.75%
  Total   20 62 23 180 8,697 2.07%
Elvis (EA) T-13 Jax 2 2 0 65 403 16.13%
  Total   2 2 0 65 403 16.13%
Lightyear T-8 Jax 6 81 107 121 11,193 1.08%
    Phx 6 69 112 124 11,262 1.10%
    Ral 8 34 45 67 3,581 1.87%
  Total   20 184 264 312 26,036 1.20%
Lightyear (EA) T-7 Jax 3 3 18 19 600 3.17%
    Phx 1 1 4 4 410 0.98%
    Ral 1 1 0 0 261 0.00%
  Total   5 5 22 23 1,271 1.81%
Minions 2 T-22 Jax 6 101 7 18 16,556 0.11%
    Phx 6 66 13 56 12,191 0.46%
    Ral 8 52 11 24 6,699 0.36%
  Total   20 219 31 98 35,446 0.28%

 

Lightyear T-8 comps

 - Bad Guys - 5.67x (6.52m)

 - Boss Baby 2 - 12x (15.72m)

 - Paw Patrol (Fri) - 2.92x (13.19m)

 - Sonic 2 - .607x (3.02m)

Really good first day.  I'm not sure why the bad reactions yesterday from a few hours of sales.  This could be a great run

 

Black Phone T-15 comps

 - Ghostbusters - .241x (998k)

 - Morbius - .172x (978k)

 - Suicide Squad - .296x (1.21m)

(Don't have many options this far out)

 

Elvis T-15 comps

 - No Time to Die - .508x (2.64m)

 - F9 - .333x (2.36m)

 - Ghostbusters - .619x (2.57m)

 

Minions 2 T-22 comp

 - Sonic 2 - .62x (3.11m)

Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
Black Phone T-14 Jax 6 16 3 23 1,959 1.17%
    Phx 5 13 0 22 2,108 1.04%
    Ral 7 18 0 28 1,933 1.45%
  Total   18 47 3 73 6,000 1.22%
Black Phone (EA) T-6 Jax 1 1 3 22 60 36.67%
    Phx 1 1 5 22 106 20.75%
  Total   2 2 8 44 166 26.51%
Elvis T-14 Jax 6 26 8 77 4,520 1.70%
    Phx 6 16 5 59 2,103 2.81%
    Ral 8 20 0 57 2,074 2.75%
  Total   20 62 13 193 8,697 2.22%
Elvis (EA) T-12 Jax 2 2 4 69 403 17.12%
  Total   2 2 4 69 403 17.12%
Lightyear T-7 Jax 6 78 21 142 10,803 1.31%
    Phx 6 69 28 152 11,262 1.35%
    Ral 8 34 21 88 3,581 2.46%
  Total   20 181 70 382 25,646 1.49%
Lightyear (EA) T-6 Jax 3 3 6 25 600 4.17%
    Phx 1 1 5 9 410 2.20%
    Ral 1 1 2 2 261 0.77%
  Total   5 5 13 36 1,271 2.83%
Minions 2 T-21 Jax 6 101 12 30 16,556 0.18%
    Phx 6 66 1 57 12,191 0.47%
    Ral 8 52 10 34 6,699 0.51%
  Total   20 219 23 121 35,446 0.34%

 

Looks like a really slow day for anything not named Jurassic (or Top Gun assumedly).

 

Lightyear (Thu) T-7 comps

 - Bad Guys - 6.59x (7.57m)

 - Boss Baby 2 - 11.57x (15.16m)

 - Paw Patrol (Fri) - 2.62x (11.84m)

 - Sonic 2 - .695x (3.46m)

 

Black Phone (Thu) T-14 comps

 - Ghostbusters - .214x (888k)

 - Morbius - .161x (916k)

 - Suicide Squad - .296x (1.21m)

(Still no real horror comps)

 

Elvis (Thu) T-14 comps

 - No Time to Die - .501x (2.61m)

 - F9 - .339x (2.4m)

 - Ghostbusters - .566x (2.35m)

 

Minions 2 T-21 comp

 - Sonic 2 - .62x (3.11m)

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10 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:
Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
Black Phone T-14 Jax 6 16 3 23 1,959 1.17%
    Phx 5 13 0 22 2,108 1.04%
    Ral 7 18 0 28 1,933 1.45%
  Total   18 47 3 73 6,000 1.22%
Black Phone (EA) T-6 Jax 1 1 3 22 60 36.67%
    Phx 1 1 5 22 106 20.75%
  Total   2 2 8 44 166 26.51%
Elvis T-14 Jax 6 26 8 77 4,520 1.70%
    Phx 6 16 5 59 2,103 2.81%
    Ral 8 20 0 57 2,074 2.75%
  Total   20 62 13 193 8,697 2.22%
Elvis (EA) T-12 Jax 2 2 4 69 403 17.12%
  Total   2 2 4 69 403 17.12%
Lightyear T-7 Jax 6 78 21 142 10,803 1.31%
    Phx 6 69 28 152 11,262 1.35%
    Ral 8 34 21 88 3,581 2.46%
  Total   20 181 70 382 25,646 1.49%
Lightyear (EA) T-6 Jax 3 3 6 25 600 4.17%
    Phx 1 1 5 9 410 2.20%
    Ral 1 1 2 2 261 0.77%
  Total   5 5 13 36 1,271 2.83%
Minions 2 T-21 Jax 6 101 12 30 16,556 0.18%
    Phx 6 66 1 57 12,191 0.47%
    Ral 8 52 10 34 6,699 0.51%
  Total   20 219 23 121 35,446 0.34%

 

Looks like a really slow day for anything not named Jurassic (or Top Gun assumedly).

 

Lightyear (Thu) T-7 comps

 - Bad Guys - 6.59x (7.57m)

 - Boss Baby 2 - 11.57x (15.16m)

 - Paw Patrol (Fri) - 2.62x (11.84m)

 - Sonic 2 - .695x (3.46m)

 

Black Phone (Thu) T-14 comps

 - Ghostbusters - .214x (888k)

 - Morbius - .161x (916k)

 - Suicide Squad - .296x (1.21m)

(Still no real horror comps)

 

Elvis (Thu) T-14 comps

 - No Time to Die - .501x (2.61m)

 - F9 - .339x (2.4m)

 - Ghostbusters - .566x (2.35m)

 

Minions 2 T-21 comp

 - Sonic 2 - .62x (3.11m)

Im about to start Lightyear comps for up here, so thank you for those as I try teaching myself comp stuff-is it okay if I copy those comps onto my sheets for now and future use (Im totally in the deep end here so I don't know if there are any unwritten rules here about copying info-obviously my comp numbers will be different because of different tix numbers, but even just having the names is a good start-even if I just put the final Thurs/Fri sales numbers to start before easing into mathy stuff)

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1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said:

As someone posting the second biggest dataset I need some respect.👀

 

Wasn’t intentional, must have just missed when going through the pages. Will edit/add (and Santikos) when I get home to my computer later 

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Right here goes my experimentation with comps. Please note that this will be a kind of work in progress lab for a bit as I play with formats and info styles-so please go easy on me if Im doing something and your first response is  NONONONONO-Im trying to go into deeper water here. Also please note that because Im in Canada trying to get specific Canada comps might be tricky until I can find a source for Canada numbers. So numbers will be the combined US/Canada numbers-please try not to lose your minds trying to figure out comp stuff-like I said, this is going to be a bit of a labratory, so don your safety goggles lol. Will be using Lightyear as my first test subject.

 

Lightyear 

SouthWest Ontario

Thurs June 16 (taken June 10

10 theatres

33 shows 

 

Total sold 23

Total Remaining 6309

Total seats 6332

no sellouts 

Percentage .36 percent

 

Friday June 17

10 theatres

34 shows

Total sold 77

Total remaining 6529

Total seats 6606

no sellouts 

Percentage 1.17

 

Total seats sold for 2 days 100 out of 12915 

percentage of .77 (Sorry thats .77 percent not 77 percent lol)

 

my comp here is Boss Baby 2

it had an opening friday (going to assume thats including Thurs) of 7,805,390 

 

So if I do my (awful) math right (ha) im getting 6.006 out of 77 percent out of 7.8 million, which would give a comp of 6.6 million. 

 

I know I messed up so hey chime in if you wish lol

 

EDIT okay .77 percent not 77percent lol-mind you if one does a rule of thumb and x a factor of 100 making .77 a 77 percent- a 6.6 estimation for a Thurs/Friday isn't exactly out of the ballpark for a comp.

 

Like I said, my labratory lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Santikos Tracking

 

By format

 

Day Movie Format Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-1 JW3 PLF 32 376 3,617 6,844 52.85% $16.18 $58,537.99
    Standard 94 715 3,644 12,050 30.24% $11.84 $43,149.32
  JW3 Total   126 1,091 7,261 18,894 38.43% $14.00 $101,687.31
T-2 JW3 (Fri) PLF 60 560 4,667 12,895 36.19% $15.39 $71,805.52
    Standard 153 1,030 3,599 19,838 18.14% $11.30 $40,654.05
  JW3 (Fri) Total   213 1,590 8,266 32,733 25.25% $13.61 $112,459.57

 

By matinee

 

Day Movie Mat Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-1 JW3 N 104 887 6,052 15,781 38.35% $14.69 $88,896.56
    Y 22 204 1,209 3,113 38.84% $10.58 $12,790.75
  JW3 Total   126 1,091 7,261 18,894 38.43% $14.00 $101,687.31
T-2 JW3 (Fri) N 106 915 5,395 16,450 32.80% $14.72 $79,409.37
    Y 107 675 2,871 16,283 17.63% $11.51 $33,050.20
  JW3 (Fri) Total   213 1,590 8,266 32,733 25.25% $13.61 $112,459.57

 

JW3 Thu T-1 comp

 - DS 2 - missed

 - NWH - .382x (19.09m)

 - Batman (Thu) - 1.204x (21.2m)

 - Batman + EA - 1.12x (24.22m)

 - Top Gun 2 - 1.757x (25.83m)

 - Top Gun + EA - 1.319x (25.46m)

 

Continues to impress here.  Well ahead of Top Gun and Batman.  I guess San Antonio like dinos too

 

JW3 Fri T-2 comps

 - NWH - .492x (35.37m)

 - Batman - 1.28x (44.94m)

 - DS2 - .757x (41.46m)

 - TG2 - 1.685x (55.12m)

 

There were a whole lot of shows added since yesterday.  Plenty of space available now for last few days.

Santikos Tracking

 

By format

 

Day Movie Format Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-0 JW3 PLF 32 433 4,050 6,844 59.18% $16.14 $65,372.46
    Standard 94 1,245 4,889 12,050 40.57% $11.71 $57,242.99
  JW3 Total   126 1,678 8,939 18,894 47.31% $13.72 $122,615.45
T-1 JW3 (Fri) PLF 61 637 5,304 13,142 40.36% $15.30 $81,148.33
    Standard 153 1,314 4,913 19,838 24.77% $11.26 $55,303.61
  JW3 (Fri) Total   214 1,951 10,217 32,980 30.98% $13.36 $136,451.94

 

By matinee

 

Day Movie Mat Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-0 JW3 N 104 1,361 7,413 15,781 46.97% $14.41 $106,843.18
    Y 22 317 1,526 3,113 49.02% $10.34 $15,772.27
  JW3 Total   126 1,678 8,939 18,894 47.31% $13.72 $122,615.45
T-1 JW3 (Fri) N 107 1,081 6,476 16,697 38.79% $14.54 $94,176.57
    Y 107 870 3,741 16,283 22.97% $11.30 $42,275.37
  JW3 (Fri) Total   214 1,951 10,217 32,980 30.98% $13.36 $136,451.94

 

JW3 Thu T-0 comp

 - DS 2 - .564x (20.286m)

 - NWH - .45x (22.5m)

 - Batman (Thu) - 1.195x (21.04m)

 - Batman + EA - 1.128x (24.36m)

 - Top Gun 2 - 1.75x (25.69m)

 - Top Gun + EA - 1.378x (26.6m)

 

Others

 - Morbius - 4.54x (25.86m)

 - Sonic 2 - 4.42x (22.03m)

 - FB3 - 4.44x (26.62m)

 

It's hard to ignore how well JW3 has performed here.  Based solely on Santikos I would have predicted ~22m for previews.  Taking other areas into account, maybe we get close to 18m?  Tough to say

 

JW3 Fri T-1 comps

 - NWH - .562x (40.47m)

 - Batman - 1.32x (46.24m)

 - DS2 - .767x (41.96m)

 - TG2 - 1.766x (57.76m)

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Maybe Santikos is overperforming? I hope it doesnt but its probably a lot more sensible to think it does looking at the other comps.

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17 minutes ago, Brainbug the Dinosaur said:

Maybe Santikos is overperforming? I hope it doesnt but its probably a lot more sensible to think it does looking at the other comps.

 

Santikos leans heavily into the family crowd.  

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17 minutes ago, Brainbug the Dinosaur said:

Maybe Santikos is overperforming? I hope it doesnt but its probably a lot more sensible to think it does looking at the other comps.

Yeah, it is absolutely overperforming.  No other region/chain is comping this high

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Jurassic Dominion 

Thurs June 9 (Final Count-12:40 EST)

 

Southwest Ontario

10 theatres

54 shows

Total Sold 1760

Seats remaining 9402

Total Seats 11162

No sellouts 

Percentage 15.77

 

Toronto Ontario

10 theatres

75 shows

Total sold 1792

Total remaining 18619

Total seats 20411

no sellouts 

Percentage 8.78


Total Combined Sold 3552

Total Combined Seats 31573

Percentage 11.25

 

Going by Mojo Friday numbers for ref (NOT comps-just the opening fri numbers for reference) 

 

TG2 shows 52 million

The Batman shows 56 mil 

 

Again disclaimer its tricky finding Canada only numbers which would be better comparison, but what can a canuck do?

 

On the bright side I have been consecutively tracking Dominion since T-3 so at least I'll have T-3 onward comp numbers for myself for future films, have started lightyear at t-7 (which means Im going from tracking every few days to now tracking daily. this is all new to me. I think for my sanity I'll keep my tracking at most to t-7, I don't quite have availablity for tracking 20 plus days out consistently)

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5 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
JW3 T-0 Jax 7 115 531 2,745 16,584 16.55%
    Phx 7 107 482 2,456 16,578 14.81%
    Ral 8 87 354 2,206 9,858 22.38%
  Total   22 309 1,367 7,407 43,020 17.22%
JW3+JP T-0 Jax 5 5 0 198 811 24.41%
    Phx 6 6 6 417 638 65.36%
    Ral 7 7 2 236 688 34.30%
  Total   18 18 8 851 2,137 39.82%

 

Breaking this out from the others since I'll be updating it later today for the last time.  

 

JW3 T-0 comps

 - Black Widow - 1.279x (16.88m)

 - Batman (Thu) - .817x (14.38m)

 - Batman + EA - .656x (14.16m)

 - Eternals - 1.786x (16.97m)

 - F9 - 2.42x (17.2m)

 - Top Gun 2 (Thu) - 1.097x (16.13m)

 - Top Gun 2 + EA - .859x (16.58m)

 - Dune - 3.35x (17.08m)

 - Ghostbusters - 4.13x (17.15m)

 - Shang-Chi - 2.46x (21.64m)

 

I think it's pretty easy to see a pattern here.  My range right now is 16.5m - 17.5m.  I'll hopefully be able to narrow it down tonight at the last 1hr run.  For those that don't know, for movies with previews starting before 6pm, I'll pull the pre-6m shows an hour before the first shows start; I pull the rest of them at 5pm.  I also want to note that I haven't been using the double feature sales in my comps at all.  I'm not sure how these will be counted, but it will be enough money to affect things.   Keep that in mind when the number is reported if we don't end up getting clarity on it.

 

How has the PLF breakdown been in other areas?  I was wondering about mine after seeing how high it is in Santikos (45% of sales for Thursday, 52% for Friday).   Here's how my regional PLF share ranks against some of the comps

 

Top Gun 2 - 34.2% PLF

F9 - 29.7% PLF

Doctor Strange 2 - 35% PLF

Dune - 44.1% PLF

JW3 - 46.5%

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25 minutes ago, filmlover said:

The empty August schedule is allowing for two Spielberg classics to come to IMAX for the first time: E.T. on August 12 and Jaws on September 2. Jaws will also be released in 3D (lol why) as well.

 

‘E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial’ And ‘Jaws’ Set For First-Ever Imax Release – Deadline

Dolby re-release would be better than IMAX (the Godfather remaster was beautiful on Dolby).

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6 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

Dolby re-release would be better than IMAX (the Godfather remaster was beautiful on Dolby).

Might still get it but I doubt it. Most likely Bullet Train gets Dolby for two weeks followed by Beast (which might end up with an IMAX release too since there's an opening).

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Look out...final presales run.

 

 

Jurassic World: Dominion
Alpha Chain
Premiere Night Seat Report: T-0 days
           
  Last Day 2 Days Ago 3 Days Ago 4 Days Ago 5 Days Ago
Showings Added 0 73 395 186 0
Seats Added 0 6,399 44,200 20,751 0
Seats Sold 28,903 19,844 16,191 12,055 8,750
           
6/9/2022 Theaters Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Pct. Sold
Total 428 5,017 180,854 840,342 21.52%
           
% of Seats Sold Sellouts 90%+ 80%+ 70%+ 60%+
# of Showings 2 8 46 214 497
           
ATP          
$16.76          

 

 

 

Jurassic World: Dominion Comps
  Top Gun: Maverick The Batman Dr. Strange MoM
Net
  Unweighted Weighted Unweighted Weighted Unweighted Weighted
D0 - - - - - - -
T-0 $15.2 $14.5 $10.7 $10.3 $11.7 $12.3 $12.1
T-1 $13.9 $13.2 $10.3 $9.9 $10.9 $11.5 $11.3
T-2 $14.1 $13.2 $10.0 $9.5 $10.3 $10.8 $10.9
T-3 $14.1 $13.2 $9.6 $9.2 $9.8 $10.4 $10.6
T-4 $14.0 $13.1 $9.4 $8.9 $9.4 $10.0 $10.2
T-5 $13.8 $12.9 $9.0 $8.5 $9.1 $9.6 $9.9
T-6 $13.8 $12.9 $8.7 $8.2 $8.7 $9.3 $9.6
T-7 $13.8 $12.9 $8.4 $7.9 $8.4 $8.9 $9.3
T-8 $13.9 $13.0 $8.1 $7.7 $8.3 $8.8 $9.2
T-9 $13.8 $12.9 $7.9 $7.5 $8.1 $8.6 $9.0
T-10 $13.9 $13.0 $7.8 $7.3 $8.0 $8.5 $8.9
T-11 $13.9 $13.1 $7.6 $7.2 $7.8 $8.3 $8.8
T-12 $14.0 $13.2 $7.5 $7.1 $7.7 $8.2 $8.7
T-13 $14.2 $13.4 $7.5 $7.1 $7.6 $8.1 $8.6

 

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Overall that was a good last day in my theaters.

JW3, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, June 9:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 249 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 946 (25 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 291 (7 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 173 (7 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 248 (8 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 643 (16 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 1.792 (28 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 4.342.

Up acceptable 14% since yesterday.

Comps (both counted on Thursday for Thursday): Uncharted (3.7M from previews) had 1.294 sold tickets = x3.36 = 12.4M.

Ghostbusters: Afterlife (4.5M) had 1.437 sold tickets = x3.02 = 13.6M.

IMO JW3 will have the way better walk-ups and I would just add 5M to the comparison numbers above.
 

JW3, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, June 10:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 779 (14 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 897 (23 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 489 (7 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 208 (7 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 183 (8 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 575 (16 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 1.650 (28 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 5.623.
Still not frontloaded at all in my theaters. And a
t this level a 35% jump (since Tuesday) is fine.

Comps (all counted on Thursday for Friday):

Uncharted (44M OW) had 1.180 sold tickets = x4.76 = 209.4M OW,

Ghostbusters: Afterlife (44M) had 1.124 sold tickets = x5 = 220M,

TG: M (126.7M) had 4.025 sold tickets = x1.4 = 177.4M.

And to stay grounded: F9 had 3.585 sold tickets = x1.54 = 107.8M. But I don't think this movie is a good comp e.g. because F9 isn't directly a family film or a film for all ages.


In sum: The Thursday presales are so-so but the Friday number is really good.
Will it have better or worse walk-ups than TG: M (I guess a bit worse)? And how much will the reviews and the mixed reception of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom hurt? Of course I don't know the answers yet but wouldn't go under 150M OW.

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