Weekend thread 7/15-7/17 | Actuals: Thor 4 46.63M, Minions 26.83, Crawdads 17.25, TGM 12.26, Elvis 8, Paws of Fury 6.31

[Eric the Ape]

17 minutes ago, jedijake said:

Funny with all the massively front loaded MCU films, nobody every goes back and talks about the weirdly massive front loaded Deathly Hallows 2. Movie had acclaimed reviews and was loved by all fans yet dropped 73% in its second weekend and ended with a 2.24 multiplier.

Only the fans went to go see it. Boom. There's your answer.

[grim22]

6 minutes ago, Eric Odinson said:

Only the fans went to go see it. Boom. There's your answer.

The Potter movies were crazy consistent with their audience, Sorcerors Stone and DH2 had pretty much the exact same number of tickets sold. 

 

It was a rarity, a series which maximized it's audience the first go around, didn't lose the audience but didn't add a new audience either.

[MrPink]

I feel like people mentioned the frontloaded numbers of DH2 all the time. It's just gotten more customary over the years that the multiplier looks almost average for those openings these days.

[ringedmortality]

19 minutes ago, grim22 said:

The Potter movies were crazy consistent with their audience, Sorcerors Stone and DH2 had pretty much the exact same number of tickets sold. 

 

It was a rarity, a series which maximized it's audience the first go around, didn't lose the audience but didn't add a new audience either.

 

And that's why Fantastic Beasts skewed older

[charlie Jatinder]

49 minutes ago, grim22 said:

The Potter movies were crazy consistent with their audience, Sorcerors Stone and DH2 had pretty much the exact same number of tickets sold. 

 

It was a rarity, a series which maximized it's audience the first go around, didn't lose the audience but didn't add a new audience either.

HP1 had around 57-60M admits in USA while DH2 was only 37M approx. 

 

Drop was there with every film in almost every market but ER kept getting better throughout 2000s, keeping the gross stable.

 

The following are admits in EU. Not fully accurate, but around the actuals.

Title	Year	EU Admits		US Gross	US Admits	US/EU
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone	2001	61,426,917		$317,575,550	58,810,287	0.96
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets	2002	52,882,041		$261,988,482	47,205,132	0.87
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban	2004	40,642,736		$249,541,069	39,926,571	0.99
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire	2005	44,468,665		$290,013,036	44,963,261	1.02
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix	2007	38,598,652		$292,004,738	41,127,428	1.08
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince	2008	35,681,017		$301,959,197	40,805,297	1.13
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1	2010	35,640,132		$295,983,305	35,876,764	1.01
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2	2011	38,000,000		$381,011,219	37,354,041	0.93

 

 

 

 

Edited July 18, 2022 by charlie Jatinder
Added US est. Admits with EU

[interiorgatordecorator]

13 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

HP1 had around 57-60M admits in USA while DH2 was only 35-37M approx. 

 

Drop was there with every film in almost every market but ER kept getting better throughout 2000s, keeping the gross stable.

 

The following are admits in EU. Not fully accurate, but around the actuals.

Title	Year	Admits		US Gross	US Admits	US/EU
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone	2001	61 426 917		317,575,550	58,810,287	0.96
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets	2002	52 882 041		261,988,482	45,962,892	0.87
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban	2004	40 642 736		249,541,069	40,248,560	0.99
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire	2005	44 468 665		290,013,036	45,314,537	1.02
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix	2007	38 598 652		292,004,738	41,714,963	1.08
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince	2008	35 681 017		301,959,197	40,261,226	1.13
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1	2010	35 640 132		295,983,305	35,876,764	1.01
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2	2011	39 988 463		381,011,219	37,171,826	0.93

 

 

 

any ever do math on how much HP1 would have done with HP8 market conditions (er, inflation, 3d, expansion,etc) ?

Edited July 18, 2022 by interiorgatordecorator

[Cappoedameron]

September is gonna be so damn interesting. Not just with the box office, but two streaming juggernauts going head to head.

 

House of the Dragon which is being met with immense positive reception despite the completely destruction of GOT in its final season that makes the series almost pointless.  Rings of Power which has been panned by a lot of the fans on Youtube with 178,000 dislikes on the Youtube vid and I have no idea why. Would love to know from any LOTR fans why people are bashing the crap out of the 2 minute teaser and I hope it's a lot more then they decided to add diversity to the cast.

 

 

[ringedmortality]

I showed my mom The Gray Man trailer and her only comment was "how dare they have Chris Evans play second fiddle to Ryan Gosling"

Edited July 18, 2022 by ringedmortality

[charlie Jatinder]

6 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

I showed my mom The Gray Man trailer and her only comment was "how dare they have Chris Evans play second fiddle to Ryan Gosling"

Chris Evans went on from co-lead Highest grossing film of all time to do streaming films 

Edited July 18, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[grim22]

53 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said:

Rings of Power which has been panned by a lot of the fans on Youtube with 178,000 dislikes on the Youtube vid and I have no idea why.

I mean, its not a secret

 

53 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said:

I hope it's a lot more then they decided to add diversity to the cast.

 

And there you go.

[krla]

39 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

any ever do math on how much HP1 would have done with HP8 market conditions (er, inflation, 3d, expansion,etc) ?

I'd imagine the easiest way is to take the HP8 gross, divide it by HP8 tickets, and multiply it by HP1 tickets. For the US that would make it a hair under $600M.

 

BOM puts the UK gross for HP8 at 117M while the numbers puts it at 97M. That'd be roughly $170-190M.

 

UK+US made roughly 36% of the WW gross of HP8. Apply that to $600+180ish, and we get roughly $2.2 Billion worldwide.

[charlie Jatinder]

12 minutes ago, krla said:

I'd imagine the easiest way is to take the HP8 gross, divide it by HP8 tickets, and multiply it by HP1 tickets. For the US that would make it a hair under $600M.

 

BOM puts the UK gross for HP8 at 117M while the numbers puts it at 97M. That'd be roughly $170-190M.

 

UK+US made roughly 36% of the WW gross of HP8. Apply that to $600+180ish, and we get roughly $2.2 Billion worldwide.

HP 1 was $986M approx in its original run. In Titanic time i.e. 1997 exchange rates, it would be $1.1B approx vs $1.8B of Titanic.

 

At Endgame exchange rate and ticket prices, it will be $1.7B approx. There is some market expansion but doing what it did in 2001 in terms of admits is unlikely as well, so $1.6-1.8B mostly.

[Jiffy]

15 minutes ago, krla said:

I'd imagine the easiest way is to take the HP8 gross, divide it by HP8 tickets, and multiply it by HP1 tickets. For the US that would make it a hair under $600M.

 

BOM puts the UK gross for HP8 at 117M while the numbers puts it at 97M. That'd be roughly $170-190M.

 

UK+US made roughly 36% of the WW gross of HP8. Apply that to $600+180ish, and we get roughly $2.2 Billion worldwide.

What is the percentage of admissions drop off globally from HP1 to HP8 then? Inflation/ER/3D really enough to make it look a bit more than half as successful in respective market context?

[Cappoedameron]

25 minutes ago, grim22 said:

I mean, its not a secret

 

 

And there you go.

Is that seriously the reason? That's ridiculous. 

[krla]

1 hour ago, Cappoedameron said:

September is gonna be so damn interesting. Not just with the box office, but two streaming juggernauts going head to head.

 

House of the Dragon which is being met with immense positive reception despite the completely destruction of GOT in its final season that makes the series almost pointless.  Rings of Power which has been panned by a lot of the fans on Youtube with 178,000 dislikes on the Youtube vid and I have no idea why. Would love to know from any LOTR fans why people are bashing the crap out of the 2 minute teaser and I hope it's a lot more then they decided to add diversity to the cast.

 

 

House of Dragon looks pretty, but I don't know if I can invest myself in that franchise again. Plus, I don't trust American shows not to insert crappy American politics into everything.

[Inceptionzq]

2 hours ago, Cappoedameron said:

September is gonna be so damn interesting. Not just with the box office, but two streaming juggernauts going head to head.

 

House of the Dragon which is being met with immense positive reception despite the completely destruction of GOT in its final season that makes the series almost pointless.  Rings of Power which has been panned by a lot of the fans on Youtube with 178,000 dislikes on the Youtube vid and I have no idea why. Would love to know from any LOTR fans why people are bashing the crap out of the 2 minute teaser and I hope it's a lot more then they decided to add diversity to the cast.

 

 

#AndorSweep

[Chaz]

1 hour ago, Cappoedameron said:

Is that seriously the reason? That's ridiculous. 

All the negative buzz I’ve heard is that people hate the visual effects.

[JustLurking]

If the Rings of Power series turns out good, I'm sure the positive reception will absolutely drown the complaints from the vocal "no diversity allowed cast" crowd. A well-received LOTR series is bound to have an enormous audience.

 

And if it's not well-received, I think those complaints will be the last of their problem given the amount of money they have sunk into the project.

[Legion Again]

32 minutes ago, JustLurking said:

If the Rings of Power series turns out good, I'm sure the positive reception will absolutely drown the complaints from the vocal "no diversity allowed cast" crowd. A well-received LOTR series is bound to have an enormous audience.

 

And if it's not well-received, I think those complaints will be the last of their problem given the amount of money they have sunk into the project.

Yep.

[Ozymandias]

2 hours ago, Cappoedameron said:

September is gonna be so damn interesting. Not just with the box office, but two streaming juggernauts going head to head.

 

House of the Dragon which is being met with immense positive reception despite the completely destruction of GOT in its final season that makes the series almost pointless.

 

Huh?  Were there some early previews of this or something?

 

Rings of Power which has been panned by a lot of the fans on Youtube with 178,000 dislikes on the Youtube vid and I have no idea why. Would love to know from any

LOTR fans why people are bashing the crap out of the 2 minute teaser and I hope it's a lot more then they decided to add diversity to the cast.

 

Theres a lot of legitimate reasons why people are nervous about that show, its just that the racists are as usual are the loudest with anything.