WGA/SAGAFTRA Strike Discussion Thread | SAG Ratifies Contract

[Porthos]

4 hours ago, filmlover said:

This whole Drew situation has been too much lmao. The backlash, her poorly worded response as to why the show "needed" to come back, the fallout from said response. Hopefully these talks between AMPTP and WGA go well this week cause I'm ready for this "finding an outlet to unleash our anger at" era of the strike to be over.

 

58 minutes ago, Mr Terrific said:

 

You think people are trying to be mad, they’re overreacting, this stuff is forgettable… I’m pretty sure that people who are economically and philosophically committed to this don’t need your advice. 

 

I think both can be true that people who are hurting and fighting for their economic lives have every reason in the world to be pissed the fuck off at folks who aren't as cognizant of things as they should be *and* there are plenty of people out there who aren't in this fight at all who are looking to vent their anger.

 

The online backlash to Drew Barrymore was whatever.  The important thing is she did the right thing in the end and that should 100 percent be applauded and encouraged.  

 

After all, if folks just pile on her and mock her for doing this "only" under pressure then what is the incentive for other people to follow in her footsteps?  Which is presumably the goal here, after all (as well as stopping others from even going that far in the first place).

 

I think some people tend to forget that the whole point of "the carrot and the stick" is to give the carrot when the subject is doing what you want!

Edited September 17, 2023 by Porthos

[SpiderByte]

 

[21C]

Matt Belloni – Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso (talkeasypod.com) 


At around 58:00 Belloni confirms the fact that yeah, the members of the AMPTP are all in a legal agreement of negotiation together and can't go off and make a deal on their own. 

[joselowe]

4 hours ago, Jonwo said:

I honestly think some of the pile on was a bit unnecessary and some of her peers need to perhaps think before they post their thoughts. Most were fine but some like Bradley Whitford for example just came across as nasty and almost threatening. 

 

I think what she did was wrong and deserves the bad backlash that she received. As someone born in the 80s we all now that the union helped Drew, even after ET when Drew was going through her issues she had to go back to being a struggling teenage actor doing crappy soft core porn movies like Poison Ivy  and she relied on residuals to get by. So for her to try to do the show while SAG and WGA are striking was in poor taste and a slap in the face to other union members.

[filmlover]

9 hours ago, FunkMiller said:

What a way to torpedo your career. Nice work Drew.

She has a net worth of about $125M. She'll survive this just fine.

[AniNate]

2 hours ago, joselowe said:

As someone born in the 80s we all now that the union helped Drew, even after ET when Drew was going through her issues she had to go back to being a struggling teenage actor doing crappy soft core porn movies

 

Speaking of poor taste...

 

This is just more evidence to me that this whole issue is about people craving drama and wanting to feel morally superior than anything else. Please focus attention on the real villains which are still the greedy CEOs with AMPTP that are responsible for this whole mess in the first place.

[Reddroast]

On 9/16/2023 at 10:43 AM, grim22 said:

It's more Hulk Hogan. Jesse Ventura and others were very close to a union but then Hogan ratted everyone out to Vince. Hogan was and is an awful person in real life.

We are  talking about THE premiere pathological liar in Hulk Hogan here. The man who put out one awful album and has claimed Metallica wanted him to join their band

[grim22]

17 minutes ago, Reddroast said:

We are  talking about THE premiere pathological liar in Hulk Hogan here. The man who put out one awful album and has claimed Metallica wanted him to join their band

Don't forget about him having 400 day long years because of time zones.

[Cmasterclay]

[Squire]

4 hours ago, AniNate said:

 

Speaking of poor taste...

 

This is just more evidence to me that this whole issue is about people craving drama and wanting to feel morally superior than anything else. Please focus attention on the real villains which are still the greedy CEOs with AMPTP that are responsible for this whole mess in the first place.

For those who believe she was in the wrong, they should be celebrating her decision to not resume the show instead of  raking her over the coals for only doing it because she “bowed to pressure.” 
 

I also think there is a lot of double standards. Nobody gave SAG actors a hard time for continuing to work while the WGA was on strike. 

Edited September 18, 2023 by Squire

[filmlover]

25 minutes ago, Squire said:

I also think there is a lot of double standards. Nobody have SAG actors a hard time for continuing to work while the WGA was on strike. 

That's because we were still getting entertainment news via casting announcements and set pics and premieres. Now we're over two months into an ongoing almost total industry shutdown and the withdrawal is so much that folks are looking to play The Blame Game whenever and wherever possible, even if it has little to actually do with why the guilds are on strike.

[Kon]

 

53 minutes ago, Squire said:

For those who believe she was in the wrong, they should be celebrating her decision to not resume the show instead of  raking her over the coals for only doing it because she “bowed to pressure.” 
 

I also think there is a lot of double standards. Nobody have SAG actors a hard time for continuing to work while the WGA was on strike. 

I agree that people focus on Drew Barrymore's decision of bringing back her show too much. I assume it's because she was popular, but there were many people who do exactly the same.

 

That said, I won't celebrate her current actions. Previously, she released a video about how she really needed to bring back her show to help her crew. Now, she has backlash for her decision and reverts it. That seems pretty fake and hypocrital.

Edited September 18, 2023 by Kon

[Porthos]

Can add a third to the list:

 

 

 

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

4 hours ago, Squire said:

I also think there is a lot of double standards. Nobody gave SAG actors a hard time for continuing to work while the WGA was on strike. 

Earlier this year, the SAG actors were working on projects where the scripts had plausibility about being written before the WGA strike began. Rewrites/tweaks often occur during the filming of a TV show or movie, but the productions were working from scripts that already existed.

 

The talk shows that were coming back now hadn't been in production for months--in Drew Barrymore's case, her show's prior season ended in April--so whatever scripting the new episodes contained would have been 100 percent written since May. General Hospital has used scab writers since July and it's gotten some attention, but wasn't nearly the same media firestorm as Drew Barrymore because soap operas are pretty low profile these days, even compared to daytime talk shows.

Edited September 18, 2023 by BoxOfficeFangrl

[Jonwo]

8 hours ago, filmlover said:

That's because we were still getting entertainment news via casting announcements and set pics and premieres. Now we're over two months into an ongoing almost total industry shutdown and the withdrawal is so much that folks are looking to play The Blame Game whenever and wherever possible, even if it has little to actually do with why the guilds are on strike.

Most of the actors on social media are  a bunch of hypocrites anyway. 

[SpiderByte]

Apparently Dancing With The Stars is in an interesting spot where the writing is scabbing but the actors appearing on the show are not. Contracts are weird.

[Youngstar]

3 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

Apparently Dancing With The Stars is in an interesting spot where the writing is scabbing but the actors appearing on the show are not. Contracts are weird.

I mean the same is technically true for talkshows, but unless they improvise everything on the spot, someone has to write something (even if it's just bulletpoints), which makes that person a scab.

[SpiderByte]

Lol once Barrymore stopped everybody did

[filmlover]

LMAO

 

Bill Maher still sucks regardless.

Edited September 18, 2023 by filmlover

[WittyUsername]

55 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

Lol once Barrymore stopped everybody did