The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[emoviefan]

1 hour ago, JonathanMB said:

 

I think the first trailer was released late enough that they didn't feel the need for a second full trailer, and will just wait until tickets go on sale to release another piece3 of marketing. And that single trailer has been pushed very hard over the last three months, to the point that it's a bit of a meme on Film Twitter. I have to imagine they're just waiting for all of the holiday movies to have their moment before going full steam ahead.

 

 

Yep Universal has Nightswim coming next week so they will probably drop the second trailer in front of that and maybe have tickets go on sale. 

Edited December 28, 2023 by emoviefan

[abracadabra1998]

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Night Swim (T-7):

Day: T-7	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	33	21	35	3670	0.95

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		15	7	42.86
MTC1:		23	10	65.71
Marcus:		0	0	0
Alamo:		7	7	20
Other chains:		5	4	14.29

 

Comps:

0.57x Thanksgiving: $575k

0.24x The Exorcist Believer: $675k

 

Average: $625k

 

No signs of a break-out, but I really wouldn't expect people to be buying advance tickets for this during the holidays. We shall see.

[abracadabra1998]

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

The Beekeeper (T-14):

Day: T-14	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 15 theaters	56	27	27	9144	0.3

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		14	14	51.85
MTC1:		21	21	77.78
Marcus:		2	2	7.41
Alamo:		0	0	0
Other chains:		4	4	14.81

 

I don't have comps for this at the moment but next update I will have an Equalizer 3 comp (which was at 59 tickets sold at T-11) and an Exped4nbles comp the update after (which was at 38 tix sold at T-7)

 

[abracadabra1998]

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Mean Girls (T-14):

Day: T-14, T-13	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 16 theaters	41	66	80	6034	1.33
Wednesday Jan 10 EA: 6 theaters	6	104	111	1325	8.38
TOTALS:	47	170	191	7359	2.6

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		10	10	5.24
MTC1:		104	104	54.45
Marcus:		30	23	15.71
Alamo:		4	1	2.09
Other chains:		53	42	27.75

 

Thursday comps:

0.42x Wonka: $1.46 Million

0.33x Hunger Games BoSS: $1.89 Million

0.0635x Barbie: $1.35 Million

 

Average: $1.57 Million

 

EA comps:

0.63x Trolls EA: $740k

2.02x Wish EA: $1.01 Million

0.5x TMNT EA: $830k

0.31x MI7 EA: $620k

 

Average: $800k

 

At T-14, Wonka was at 192 tickets sold, so in total tickets sold this is pretty much on par with that here (@Porthos). Obviously much more concentrated in EA at this point but it is a good sign in terms of general demand. Right now it is looking like the EA could reach a million, but I do keep in mind that all of these had walk-ups (summer or Saturday) that Mean Girls will not have. So we shall see.

 

Still looking pretty solid from where I'm seating, since again, I don't imagine the holidays to be a pre-sale heavy time!

[Eric is Quiet]

Quorum Updates

The Book of Clarence T-16: 22.65% Awareness

Mean Girls T-16: 46.85%

Lisa Frankenstein T-44: 16.59%

Imaginary T-72: 24.01%

Kung Fu Panda 4 T-72: 47.24%

Horrorscope T-135: 12.5%

IF T-142: 19.89%

The Garfield Movie T-149: 41.74%

A Quiet Place: Day One T-184: 27.95%

 

Ordinary Angels T-58: 16.18% Awareness

T-60 Awareness: 31% chance of 10M

Low Awareness: 27% chance of 10M

[charlie Jatinder]

6 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

The Beekeeper (T-14):

Day: T-14	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 15 theaters	56	27	27	9144	0.3

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		14	14	51.85
MTC1:		21	21	77.78
Marcus:		2	2	7.41
Alamo:		0	0	0
Other chains:		4	4	14.81

 

I don't have comps for this at the moment but next update I will have an Equalizer 3 comp (which was at 59 tickets sold at T-11) and an Exped4nbles comp the update after (which was at 38 tix sold at T-7)

 

Are you including Early shows in these?

[abracadabra1998]

8 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Are you including Early shows in these?

I’m not, I wasn’t even aware that those existed for this movie. Good catch, I’ll add that to my next update

[Eric is Quiet]

Quorum Updates

Bob Marley: One Love T-47: 31.82%

Cabrini T-70: 12.71%

The First Omen T-98: 21.77%

My Ex-Friend's Wedding T-133: 13.76%

Ballerina T-162: 18.73%

Horizon: An American Saga Part 1 T-182: 20.3%

Deadpool 3 T-210: 54.04%

Beetlejuice 2 T-253: 50.02%

 

Night Swim T-7: 35.56% Awareness

Final Awareness: 36% chance of 10M, 6% chance of 20M

Horror Awareness: 45% chance of 10M, 9% chance of 20M

 

Drive-Away Dolls T-56: 16.49% Awareness

T-60 Awareness: 31% chance of 10M

Low Awareness: 10% chance of 10M

[M37]

20 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Night Swim (T-7):

Day: T-7	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	33	21	35	3670	0.95

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		15	7	42.86
MTC1:		23	10	65.71
Marcus:		0	0	0
Alamo:		7	7	20
Other chains:		5	4	14.29

 

Comps:

0.57x Thanksgiving: $575k

0.24x The Exorcist Believer: $675k

 

Average: $625k

 

No signs of a break-out, but I really wouldn't expect people to be buying advance tickets for this during the holidays. We shall see.

This is one of the few films where the Insidious comp might be viable (and M3GAN for those that have it). The release right after the holidays is going to lead to poor early sales and a big final push

 

Also the EA/Thursday split for Mean Girls is giving me like 80 for Brady vibes ...

[abracadabra1998]

17 minutes ago, M37 said:

This is one of the few films where the Insidious comp might be viable (and M3GAN for those that have it). The release right after the holidays is going to lead to poor early sales and a big final push

 

Also the EA/Thursday split for Mean Girls is giving me like 80 for Brady vibes ...

Good point. An Insidious comp at T-7 spits out:

 

0.45x: $2.24 Million

 

Not bad at all! While not expecting an Insidious level late growth, I do think it’ll be somewhere in the middle between this and those comps in my original post

[abracadabra1998]

On 12/28/2023 at 7:43 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Night Swim (T-7):

Day: T-7	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	33	21	35	3670	0.95

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		15	7	42.86
MTC1:		23	10	65.71
Marcus:		0	0	0
Alamo:		7	7	20
Other chains:		5	4	14.29

 

Comps:

0.57x Thanksgiving: $575k

0.24x The Exorcist Believer: $675k

 

Average: $625k

 

No signs of a break-out, but I really wouldn't expect people to be buying advance tickets for this during the holidays. We shall see.

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Night Swim (T-4):

Day: T-4	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	35	17	52	3859	1.35

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		27	12	51.92
MTC1:		37	14	71.15
Marcus:		0	0	0
Alamo:		8	1	15.38
Other chains:		7	2	13.46

 

Comps:

0.55x Thanksgiving: $555k

0.27x The Exorcist Believer: $760k

0.32x Insidious Red Door: $1.61 Million

 

Average: $975k

[abracadabra1998]

On 12/28/2023 at 7:47 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

The Beekeeper (T-14):

Day: T-14	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 15 theaters	56	27	27	9144	0.3

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		14	14	51.85
MTC1:		21	21	77.78
Marcus:		2	2	7.41
Alamo:		0	0	0
Other chains:		4	4	14.81

 

I don't have comps for this at the moment but next update I will have an Equalizer 3 comp (which was at 59 tickets sold at T-11) and an Exped4nbles comp the update after (which was at 38 tix sold at T-7)

 

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

The Beekeeper (T-11):

Day: T-11, T-6	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 15 theaters	56	14	41	9092	0.45
Saturday Jan 6 EA: 9 theaters	9	10	20	2008	1
TOTALS:	65	24	61	11100	0.55

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		31	7	50.82
MTC1:		51	20	83.61
Marcus:		2	0	3.28
Alamo:		0	0	0
Other chains:		8	4	13.11

 

Thursday Comps:

0.69x The Equalizer 3: $2.64 Million*

 

*This underindexed in my market, and also had really late growth, so don't put too much faith in this comp for now.

 

Expend4bles comp added on Thursday

[abracadabra1998]

On 12/28/2023 at 8:01 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Mean Girls (T-14):

Day: T-14, T-13	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 16 theaters	41	66	80	6034	1.33
Wednesday Jan 10 EA: 6 theaters	6	104	111	1325	8.38
TOTALS:	47	170	191	7359	2.6

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		10	10	5.24
MTC1:		104	104	54.45
Marcus:		30	23	15.71
Alamo:		4	1	2.09
Other chains:		53	42	27.75

 

Thursday comps:

0.42x Wonka: $1.46 Million

0.33x Hunger Games BoSS: $1.89 Million

0.0635x Barbie: $1.35 Million

 

Average: $1.57 Million

 

EA comps:

0.63x Trolls EA: $740k

2.02x Wish EA: $1.01 Million

0.5x TMNT EA: $830k

0.31x MI7 EA: $620k

 

Average: $800k

 

At T-14, Wonka was at 192 tickets sold, so in total tickets sold this is pretty much on par with that here (@Porthos). Obviously much more concentrated in EA at this point but it is a good sign in terms of general demand. Right now it is looking like the EA could reach a million, but I do keep in mind that all of these had walk-ups (summer or Saturday) that Mean Girls will not have. So we shall see.

 

Still looking pretty solid from where I'm seating, since again, I don't imagine the holidays to be a pre-sale heavy time!

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Mean Girls (T-11):

Day: T-11, T-10	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 16 theaters	41	38	118	6034	1.96
Wednesday Jan 10 EA: 6 theaters	6	38	149	1325	11.25
TOTALS:	47	76	267	7359	3.63

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		33	23	12.36
MTC1:		162	58	60.67
Marcus:		37	7	13.86
Alamo:		11	7	4.12
Other chains:		57	4	21.35

 

Thursday comps:

0.49x Wonka: $1.71 Million

0.27x Hunger Games BoSS: $1.58 Million

0.0684x Barbie: $1.45 Million

 

Average: $1.58 Million

 

EA comps:

0.71x Trolls EA: $925k

2.26x Wish EA: $1.13 Million

TMNT EA: Missed

0.38x MI7 EA: $770k

 

Average: $940k

 

Don't have time to add EA comps today, have one foot out the door. Might edit them in next year (LOL!)

 

Happy new year folks ❤️ 

Edited January 1 by abracadabra1998
Added in EA comps

[keysersoze123]

7 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Mean Girls (T-11):

Day: T-11, T-10	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 16 theaters	41	38	118	6034	1.96
Wednesday Jan 10 EA: 6 theaters	6	38	149	1325	11.25
TOTALS:	47	76	267	7359	3.63

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		33	23	12.36
MTC1:		162	58	60.67
Marcus:		37	7	13.86
Alamo:		11	7	4.12
Other chains:		57	4	21.35

 

Thursday comps:

0.49x Wonka: $1.71 Million

0.27x Hunger Games BoSS: $1.58 Million

0.0684x Barbie: $1.45 Million

 

Average: $1.58 Million

 

Don't have time to add EA comps today, have one foot out the door. Might edit them in next year (LOL!)

 

Happy new year folks ❤️ 

Happy New Year @abracadabra1998 (and everyone). You are definitely one of the MVPs holding this thread together. Especially as we hit a barren phase most of next year. 

[misterpepp]

If you ever wanted to see Les Miserables on a Dolby screen, you’ll have your chance on Feb 23.

[abracadabra1998]

On 12/31/2023 at 7:20 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Night Swim (T-4):

Day: T-4	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	35	17	52	3859	1.35

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		27	12	51.92
MTC1:		37	14	71.15
Marcus:		0	0	0
Alamo:		8	1	15.38
Other chains:		7	2	13.46

 

Comps:

0.55x Thanksgiving: $555k

0.27x The Exorcist Believer: $760k

0.32x Insidious Red Door: $1.61 Million

 

Average: $975k

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Night Swim (T-3):

Day: T-3	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	35	15	67	3859	1.74

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		36	9	53.73
MTC1:		48	11	71.64
Marcus:		0	0	0
Alamo:		8	0	11.94
Other chains:		11	4	16.42

 

Comps:

0.65x Thanksgiving: $650k

0.29x The Exorcist Believer: $815k

0.35x Insidious Red Door: $1.76 Million

 

Average: $1.07 Million

 

Rose against all comps, but we're talking small numbers at the moment which means big swings can happen. Still, maybe a good sign things are picking up this final week!

 

Also, thank you @keysersoze123 I really appreciate it, and that really means a lot  hope you had an awesome start to your 2024!

[TheFlatLannister]

FLORIDA 

 

Night Swim

 

Thursday 

 

T-3

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
445	1091	92509	1.2%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-3

 

Miami-Orlando-Tampa-Jacksonville 

 

Ok, so as promised this is the new tracking region I will be using. I don't have a specific number, but thinking its around ~80% of all Florida screens available on Fandango. Going to have no comps for a while.  

 

This includes MTC1, MTC2, MTC3, plus several other MiniTCs

[Porthos]

4 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

FLORIDA 

 

Ok, so as promised this is the new tracking region I will be using. I don't have a specific number, but thinking its around ~80% of all Florida screens available on Fandango. Going to have no comps for a while.  

 

This includes MTC1, MTC2, MTC3, plus several other MiniTCs

 

 

[HummingLemon496]

15 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

FLORIDA 

 

Night Swim

 

Thursday 

 

T-3

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
445	1091	92509	1.2%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-3

 

Miami-Orlando-Tampa-Jacksonville 

 

Ok, so as promised this is the new tracking region I will be using. I don't have a specific number, but thinking its around ~80% of all Florida screens available on Fandango. Going to have no comps for a while.  

 

This includes MTC1, MTC2, MTC3, plus several other MiniTCs

 

Edited January 2 by HummingLemon496

[rehpyc]

1 hour ago, TheFlatLannister said:

FLORIDA 

 

Night Swim

 

Thursday 

 

T-3

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
445	1091	92509	1.2%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-3

 

Miami-Orlando-Tampa-Jacksonville 

 

Ok, so as promised this is the new tracking region I will be using. I don't have a specific number, but thinking its around ~80% of all Florida screens available on Fandango. Going to have no comps for a while.  

 

This includes MTC1, MTC2, MTC3, plus several other MiniTCs

 

Great that you'll be covering a larger footprint with utilizing Fandango, rather than the per-circuit scripts you'd use before! I know some chains will use the same session for both the standard and specialty seating, just noting differences in their seat maps ,on their own sites (i.e. Cinemark for their D-BOX), whereas Fandango will separate these - you're likely already aware of this for the show counts, but just in case. In the coming days I'll likely DM you, to share something that may assist with speeding up your initial show listing.