Weekdays Thread | #WED - Mean Girls $1.4M &Beekeeper $1.1M

[Valonqar]

1 hour ago, efialtes76 said:

What a fucking moron this man is!🤣

 

where did he come from and what site is he working for? It really sucks that we had to get numbers from him. 

[Bob Train]

26 minutes ago, AJG said:

Incredible.

 

Starting Monday I can watch The Marvels, Aquaman 2, Wonka, Wish, and Migration.

 

Thats five massive movies. One movie a night for a week. All from the comfort of my sofa. 

 

I didn’t watch a single one in cinemas. I didn’t expect my viewing habits to change so drastically but these shorter windows really make it harder to justify the trip to the big screen. How is this still sustainable?

Why would families watch Wish on PVOD for 20 bucks when they could wait an extra few months and watch it on Disney+ for “free”? PVOD market is very limited compared to SVOD market for that reason, so the latter is what actually matters.

 

Point is, most consumers are not going to spend $15 or $20 for a single movie when they are already paying for the streaming service said movie will release on shortly. 

[MovieMan89]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

That movie had previews(5.1m of it as well). This is all just 1 holiday. It also benefited from another week of holiday run that should have helped with its legs and it had good reviews/early reactions. 

 

But Color Purple OD BO was boosted by group sales from churches or something. Otherwise it should not be so bad. 

It is also telling both had the same target demo (black females). So maybe that’s just a very frontloaded audience to appeal to 

[Kon]

48 minutes ago, AJG said:

Incredible.

 

Starting Monday I can watch The Marvels, Aquaman 2, Wonka, Wish, and Migration.

 

Thats five massive movies. One movie a night for a week. All from the comfort of my sofa. 

 

I didn’t watch a single one in cinemas. I didn’t expect my viewing habits to change so drastically but these shorter windows really make it harder to justify the trip to the big screen. How is this still sustainable?

 

These movies will be Premiun Video On Demand. So, you will need to buy every movie ($15~$20 each one) if you want to see the five movies the next week.

Edited January 19 by Kon

[Kon]

11 minutes ago, Bob Train said:

Why would families watch Wish on PVOD for 20 bucks when they could wait an extra few months and watch it on Disney+ for “free”? PVOD market is very limited compared to SVOD market for that reason, so the latter is what actually matters.

 

Point is, most consumers are not going to spend $15 or $20 for a single movie when they are already paying for the streaming service said movie will release on shortly. 

Honestly, I think people heard digital release and they just assume it's streaming.

 

As you said, PVOD won't really affect theaters.

[KP1025]

12 minutes ago, Kon said:

 

These movies will be Premiun Video On Demand. So, you will need to buy every movie ($15~$20 each one) if you want to see the five movies the next week.

 

The PVOD date is also when HD pirated copies end up online. It doesn't seem to have much effect on the box office except in piracy-heavy markets like China though.

[AJG]

19 minutes ago, Bob Train said:

Why would families watch Wish on PVOD for 20 bucks when they could wait an extra few months and watch it on Disney+ for “free”? PVOD market is very limited compared to SVOD market for that reason, so the latter is what actually matters.

 

Point is, most consumers are not going to spend $15 or $20 for a single movie when they are already paying for the streaming service said movie will release on shortly. 

It’s true. Piracy and PVOD aren’t as big a deal to BO as we think, but I do wonder the effect of shorter release windows are having on audiences mentally. I used to watch all the big blockbusters in cinemas. If I was going to see big film I may as well do it in the best possible environment. Drama and Oscar-Bait was for the TV. Now that we have these 30 day windows and streaming premiers reinforcing the idea the at-home viewing, I think it’s lead to cinema becoming a kind of preview-box for people. You go if you want to see a movie desperately, before everyone else does on TV. Not because you may as well.

[Becker]

5 hours ago, WorkingonaName said:

They should rerelease Titanic again. 

Watch Anybody But You, starring the hottest couple in Hollywood, for a special Titanic tribute

[AJG]

Just now, KP1025 said:

 

The PVOD date is also when HD pirated copies end up online. It doesn't seem to have much effect on the box office except in piracy-heavy markets like China though.

Yep. 4K HDR copies available 10 minutes after release. My Plex server’s running like a multiplex.

 

No matter what the internet tells us: piracy is un-common in markets with easy access and mature legal alternatives. 

[Becker]

Probably my favorite film in theaters at the moment. Unfortunately, not many people are checking it out because it's a designated streaming movie. My sides hurt from laughing too hard.  

 

[AJG]

5 minutes ago, Becker said:

Probably my favorite film in theaters at the moment. Unfortunately, not many people are checking it out because it's a designated streaming movie. My sides hurt from laughing too hard.  

 

The way this movie has been spoken about on the film sites I visit made me think it was some kind of massive BO success story…

[Eric Loves Rey]

3 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Yes. Studios have used COVID as a platform to speed up streaming release anyway. I am not seeing what is the value in getting in out so early. 

 

Thank god we have folks like Cameron/Nolan/Cruise who fight against this. But they are the only ones with the power to fight this.

Studios have done this for three years now. If there was no value in these early PVOD launches, they would have stopped by now. They clearly see something we don't.

[AJG]

4 hours ago, Kon said:

 

 

So...

 

This just dropped online 10 minutes ago. iTunes 4K HDR. No idea which region dropped it.

[MysteryMovieMogul]

2 hours ago, Eric George said:

Studios have done this for three years now. If there was no value in these early PVOD launches, they would have stopped by now. They clearly see something we don't.

Agreed. I mean, we've seen them cut back on sending films doing well to streaming, so we know they're reacting to the market, but they're still releasing PVOD earlier than ever before.

[dallas]

I really dislike Luiz Fernando. He just has this certain vibe to him that ticks me off. Empire City BO is even worse, but I'll refrain from going on a huge rant. 

 

PVOD never affects anything btw. Don't know why people think it does. PVOD and theaters have always co-existed, it's the theatrical-to-streaming window that's the issue. 

[DAJK]

FWIW ISS in my area numbers would suggest 2.2M Friday including previews.

[titanic2187]

9 hours ago, WorkingonaName said:

PVOD doesn't effect shit. 

Then explain it to me why we still couldn’t get back our 11bn annual domestic BO.

[titanic2187]

11 hours ago, M37 said:

I think the error is with BOR. A24 (frustratingly) doesn’t report dailies during the week, catches them all up on Friday, and it looks like those Tue/Wed numbers (or Wed/Thur?) were not included in the cumulative total he posted.
 

Numbers ($30.467M) looks to be the correct total, not overstated 

But that isn’t without merit to believe BOR is the correct BO. I mean the dailies breakdown for IC is simply too weird. Why is new year day has the exact same gross as Christmas? Also January 7, Sunday decline was only 28% but every other movies are dropping in the range of 35-45%. If we adjust all these abnormalities, BOR number looks more accurate. 

[Ryan Reynolds]

4 hours ago, dallas said:

I really dislike Luiz Fernando. He just has this certain vibe to him that ticks me off. Empire City BO is even worse, but I'll refrain from going on a huge rant. 

 

PVOD never affects anything btw. Don't know why people think it does. PVOD and theaters have always co-existed, it's the theatrical-to-streaming window that's the issue. 

PVOD hurts repeat viewings , but probably won't hurt unless sw, avatar or marvel and that is only if quality is top tier now.

[Krissykins]

7 hours ago, AJG said:

 

So...

 

This just dropped online 10 minutes ago. iTunes 4K HDR. No idea which region dropped it.

A reminder that anything from a piracy site is still never actually native 4K HDR.