JJ-8 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Ok fair enough. All good and there is no easy way around it. Your game your rules. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariadne Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I know the decision's been made, but just my :2c:I think it should have been left as it is. 44 people (including myself) predicted GI Joe 2 would get in the top 12 - we were wrong, the 10 people who correctly predicted it wouldn't make it were right. They should get a material benefit for their correct prediction.At the very least, they should get to choose which of the films in their top 12 is removed (even if it's already been released and won't make it). As it is, removing number 12 for those 10 people could work against them if it's a film that will now make the top 11. Why should they lose out on points when they were the ones who picked GI Joe 2 wouldn't make it? I hope that makes sense. LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I think GIJ ll has taught us some lessons. So next year we should have a TOP 13 film that will automatically move up to number 12 if a film moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedarpoint1111 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I know the decision's been made, but just my :2c:I think it should have been left as it is. 44 people (including myself) predicted GI Joe 2 would get in the top 12 - we were wrong, the 10 people who correctly predicted it wouldn't make it were right. They should get a material benefit for their correct prediction.At the very least, they should get to choose which of the films in their top 12 is removed (even if it's already been released and won't make it). As it is, removing number 12 for those 10 people could work against them if it's a film that will now make the top 11. Why should they lose out on points when they were the ones who picked GI Joe 2 wouldn't make it? I hope that makes sense. LOL.That is an awful idea. Why would those 10 people be allowed to take off any movie they want when the other 44 people can't? GI Joe being removed didn't help anyone, there is no reason to reward anybody for what is out of their control.We just need to move on. Shit happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariadne Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 That is an awful idea. Why would those 10 people be allowed to take off any movie they want when the other 44 people can't? GI Joe being removed didn't help anyone, there is no reason to reward anybody for what is out of their control.We just need to move on. Shit happens.They shouldn't be penalized for making a correct call. Take Totem for example, he didn't have GI Joe 2 in his top 12 - which was the right call. But he's now lost his 12th movie 'That's My Boy', but has had to keep Battleship and Dark Shadows. Now if That's My Boy makes the top 12, he has a legitimate right to be pissed - he's lost out on those points through no fault of his own.Those 10 people correctly predicted that GI Joe 2 wouldn't make the top 12 (you generally need to get $120m to get there). Well, they were right and the studio obviously agrees with them or it wouldn't have been pulled. I think everything should have stayed the way it was - unpredictable things happen in box office - so what if a movie gets pulled or an opening day changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 You make a good point Ariadne. Shit does happen. And this decision is going to cause havoc with the scoring this year. But it would also cause controversy if we did it the way you suggest. I'm not saying your way isn't a good way, because it is, but no matter what happens, what decision is adhered to, someone is going to get screwed in some way. And I feel bad about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) While it might sound self serving as I don't have GI Joe, I agree with Ariadne, unexpected events are an intended part of the game, that is why we make predictions for the whole summer rather than have just weekly questions. We were supposed to predict the grosses of the summer films and GI Joe will be making 0 and should count as such. Edited May 26, 2012 by Tower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Top 11 works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 No, they didn't make the correct call. GI Joe would have made the top 12 with ease. They are actually very lucky that Paramount made this awful decision. If TDKR moves to Wednesday, fair enough, tough luck, but this is a whole different ball game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I know the decision's been made, but just my :2c:I think it should have been left as it is. 44 people (including myself) predicted GI Joe 2 would get in the top 12 - we were wrong, the 10 people who correctly predicted it wouldn't make it were right. They should get a material benefit for their correct prediction.At the very least, they should get to choose which of the films in their top 12 is removed (even if it's already been released and won't make it). As it is, removing number 12 for those 10 people could work against them if it's a film that will now make the top 11. Why should they lose out on points when they were the ones who picked GI Joe 2 wouldn't make it? I hope that makes sense. LOL.I get what you're saying but honestly GI Joe if it were released would indisputably be in the Top 12.Saying it therefore made $0 or is unforeseen isn't fair a justification for the 10 people who didn't have it in.I'm not sure what the predictions for the #12 movie are for people who have 12 without GI Joe, but if it were listed, and say someone had predicted the #12 film at $90m, let's face it, GI Joe was never looking like making less than $90m.The flaw in my argument is that 10 people thought it would bomb anyway so obviously it wasn't a lock. But given where we are/were now right before GI Joe was yanked, you'd have to be living under a rock to say that it wasn't going to make at least $110m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I guess the decision's been made either way but since the #12 film has been moved out from the affected people's list I can't really tell what they had or what they predicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariadne Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I get what you're saying but honestly GI Joe if it were released would indisputably be in the Top 12.Saying it therefore made $0 or is unforeseen isn't fair a justification for the 10 people who didn't have it in.I'm not sure what the predictions for the #12 movie are for people who have 12 without GI Joe, but if it were listed, and say someone had predicted the #12 film at $90m, let's face it, GI Joe was never looking like making less than $90m.The flaw in my argument is that 10 people thought it would bomb anyway so obviously it wasn't a lock. But given where we are/were now right before GI Joe was yanked, you'd have to be living under a rock to say that it wasn't going to make at least $110m.I disagree personally that it was locked to make the top 12. But the decision's been made. If TDKR moves to Wednesday or any other due dates are changed I don't want people clamouring for a do-over, because changes are always possible and you have to take that into consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 I have been thinking a lot about Ariadne's post today and I think what I would like to do is this:I'm going to keep it as the top 11, but as a small white flag, a truce so to speak, I think what I can do is grant those 10 people who did not have Joe on their top 12 a bonus of 7000. It won't make up for anything and to be honest, it might be more than they deserve, but in the whole scheme of things, they did call it correctly that Joe did not make the top 12, so this seems kind of fair. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Sounds reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) That called it because they thought GI Joe would make less than his 12 place, and not that it was going to be moved to March because the guys at Hasbro almost had an heart attack on May 18 Edited May 26, 2012 by CJohn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedarpoint1111 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I disagree. GI Joe 2 would have made it to top 12. They simply got lucky, no reason to reward them. They in fact would have lost points had GI Joe 2 not moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) Reward? Are kidding me? They are the ones, who got lucky, so some of them can get rid of their BS and DS. I don't think this will affect the game hugely unless Spidey and Ted break out. Edited May 27, 2012 by The Dark Alfred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I don't see any reason to give anybody any points.... but it is your game baumer.IMO the move was more unfair to those who had it in Top-12 than those who had not (e.g. I might have got points for calling its gross correctly but now I will not ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I don't see why those people, who clearly benefited from the GI Joe snub are getting extra points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceroll Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Yeah GI Joe making it on the top 12 would have given those 44 players extra points, and now that it's removed they lose those points. It puts them at a disadvantage so giving the people who didn't include it points seems unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...