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BAD BOYS FOR LIF3 | Jan 17 2020 | IT'S OFFICIAL: #1 DOMESTIC 2020

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20 minutes ago, Maxmoser3 said:

Michael Bay can do this over Bumblebee. He's not busy, neither is Martin Lawrence or Will Smith(besides Dumbo). Honestly im glad Carnahan exited as he would've made it into a PG-13 shit fest. 

I'm sure Will Smith drop out of Dumbo to do Aladdin. Plus he's also doing Suicide Squad 2.

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2 hours ago, cmbbox2390 said:

I'm sure Will Smith drop out of Dumbo to do Aladdin. Plus he's also doing Suicide Squad 2.

 

Will Smith doesn't need to drop out of Dumbo, cause, well, he never signed up in the first place.

 

So technically you're right?

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3 minutes ago, filmlover said:

This is bound to remain one of those sequels that always gets talked about but never actually gets made, and if it does, it'll be at point where literally nobody cares anymore and flops because of it.

Does anyone actually care now? Feels like it's ten years too late.

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Well I'm not surprised. As Xander Cage, and popular franchises from the last decade or even the 90's(minus Jurassic Park,and  Star Wars) franchises have gone downhill into box office slump. As Studios have relied on this summer with Alien, Transformers, and even making a "dark universe" reviving the universal monsters. It's time to stop! 

 

Im fine with the first two movies anyway, and as a business this won't make that much of a killing in the states but would overseas and China. So unless Will Smith becomes the black Harrison Ford and make blockbusters in his 50's then this should move forward, but right now just put this on hold. 

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4 hours ago, Kingp0va said:

OT but why did will's star power dissapeared of all of a sudden? he used to be the biggest box office star and right after MIB3 he became a flop, why?

Will Smith was arguably the biggest movie star in the world (with Pitt, Cruise and other name up there, but him clearly a contender to the title) from 1996 to 2012/2013, not a bad prime in term of lenght.

 

Some theory are up there, that turn around not having played a controversial role until it was too late

http://www.indiewire.com/2013/05/on-will-smiths-seemingly-strategic-aversion-to-controversial-roles-167656/

 

In interview Smith said that for a long while every movie he made he wanted to make the biggest movie on earth of the year (until Wild Wild West happened), making him really averse to risk.

 

And after Ali happened (one of is rare big flop), both those things made him confined to a bit narrow extremely likable movie star persona it look like and those tend to have a form of limited time, great movies audience like is pretty much the only way to sustain clout for much longer than is really impressive 16/18 year'a at the top 3 to 5 of the world status.

 

A clear "mistake" that probably hurt him quite a bit was the combination of After Earth and the opportunity cost of not doing Django Unchained (again motivated by some risk averse/disagreement  with Tarantino). Even in something supposedly filled of villains like Suicide Squad he still played it some charming/likable funny and good guy.

 

Imagine a parallel world in which Smith is in Tarantino biggest unadjusted movie ever, Oscar nominated and so on and not in After Earth.... I think he would sustained is high wattage stardom a bit longer.

 

Also here the list of director he has an repeated collaboration history and there average metascore:

 

(2x) David Ayer (56 MC average)

(2x) Michael Bay (42 MC average)

(2x) Gabriele Muccino (50 MC average)

(4x) Barry Sonnenfeld (nine live director 55 mc average)

 

Compare that to the other contemporary contender of movie biggest star:

Brad Pitt

(2x) Tony Scott

(2x) Ridley Scott

(3x) Soderbergh

(2x) Tarantino (if Manson family happen with him)

(2x) Malick

(3x) Fincher (4 if WWZ 2 hapen)

 

Johnny Depp

(8x) Tim Burton

(2x) Terry Gilliam

(5) Verbinski

 

Hanks, Dicaprio, Cruise are obviously full of impressive director, he didn't had a stage were he developed an interesting collaboration with interest directors like those did, to help is filmography.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Kingp0va said:

OT but why did will's star power dissapeared of all of a sudden? he used to be the biggest box office star and right after MIB3 he became a flop, why?

 

 

After Earth was so bad (not to mention a ridiculous vanity project) that it destroyed a lot of his good will 

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well, i dont think pitt was ever a big bo draw (and killing them sofly, allied, the counselor etc prove this)

 

and i still dont get it, tom cruise has been making the same tired action movies for 20 years and they still smash in the box office

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