Tower Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 51 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: If Disney China just expected $69m for Rogue One and $86m for BATB, then I will eat my words. I agree regarding Rogue One, but BATB seems OK based on the kind of film it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tower said: I agree regarding Rogue One, but BATB seems OK based on the kind of film it is. It improved from Cinderella, which makes it not a disappointment in my eyes. There was a possibility it might have grossed under due to the musical format turning people off. Also, Cinderella is a much more iconic princess/fairy tale to many people growing up in Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agafin Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 @Olive I'd also like to say that you can't directly compare US&Can's $11.4 B to China's $6.7B since we're talking strictly about Hollywood. While in The US, over 97% of the total annual Box office comes from Hollywood, the number in China is closer to ~40% to my knowledge (since China also has its own local market from where most of the BO is generated). So the actual comparison when we're dealing specifically with BO would be something like $2.6B vs $11B. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Agafin said: @Olive I'd also like to say that you can't directly compare US&Can's $11.4 B to China's $6.7B since we're talking strictly about Hollywood. While in The US, over 97% of the total annual Box office comes from Hollywood, the number in China is closer to ~40% to my knowledge (since China also has its own local market from where most of the BO is generated). So the actual comparison when we're dealing specifically with BO would be something like $2.6B vs $11B. That is not correct as not all hllywd movies open in china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Dangal's sunday could be ahead of its saturday. Maoyan is saying 95.44m for saturday(wonder if its final number). Question is can it crack 100m today. its behaving like not so mini Zootopia. Of course Zoo was more than double of Dangal at the same point but Dangal has it open until Pirates open and could play strong 2nd place after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieboner Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, keysersoze123 said: That is not correct as not all hllywd movies open in china He's talking about out of the $6.7 billion box office generated in 2015 only $2.6 billion of that was from Hollywood movies. For Olive's comparison, it's better to compare the $2.6 bil vs $11 bil instead of the earlier comparison. There is some discrepancy like an unreleased Hollywood film due to the quota could've broken out and made $200 million compared to a flop like Deepwater Horizon which made only $10.50 million. There's also the bad exchange rate that makes a film decrease or stay flat in USD, but has grown in local currency. A problem Fate of the Furious faced this year. Edited May 14, 2017 by movieboner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) The correct way to compare the market potential and set benchmark for overperformance/underperformance.... would be to add the Chinese grosses of all the Hollywood imports in a year... and compare that to the total US gross of these movies only. Edited May 14, 2017 by Fake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 the dangal is almost the zootopia 2.0!!! while GOTG2 was like IPMan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 SUN estimates before service chargesDangal - 87.3m / 387.9mGuardians of the Galaxy 2 - 32.7m / 524.3mKing Arthur - 9.84m / 34.5mDealer Healer - 6.28m / 26.5mPower Rangers - 5.26m / 23mWhat a Wonderful Family - 4.58m / 25.1mFate of the Furious - 2.76m / 2,523mAbsurd Accident - 2.34m / 9.41m after service chargesDangal - 94m / 420.2mGuardians of the Galaxy 2 - 34.8m / 555.9mKing Arthur - 10.3m / 36.1mDealer Healer - 6.6m / 27.9mPower Rangers - 5.5m / 24.1mWhat a Wonderful Family - 4.8m / 26.4mFate of the Furious - 2.95m / 2,675mAbsurd Accident - 2.34m / 9.66m 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisman0606 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Power Rangers is sure front-loaded and will sure disappear from Chinese Theaters soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Dangal monday looks very strong. I am thinking it can hit mid 30's !!!! That would be much bigger than any weekday last week(not surprising as it has way more shows now). I think it will gross 110m+ over Mon-Thu and 650m+ by sunday. Should gross more than $100m before Pirates open. Guardians looks like early to mid teens today. Not bad but its dropping normally again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 At last... Dangal seems to have a normal day-to-day drop... But at such high levels, it doesn't matter. Even if it has normal 50% weekly drops, and doesn't get any extension, it will finish with $100M+! In contast, it only did $80M in India and $35M in rest of the world (including Taiwan). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Fake said: At last... Dangal seems to have a normal day-to-day drop... But at such high levels, it doesn't matter. Even if it has normal 50% weekly drops, and doesn't get any extension, it will finish with $100M+! In contast, it only did $80M in India and $35M in rest of the world (including Taiwan). Its still not normal. its drops are way stronger than Guardians which is not dropping that bad either. I think it will hold better than 50% this weekend as releases are as bad as last week. I am thinking Dangal China > Dangal Rest of the world !!! Edited May 15, 2017 by keysersoze123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 On 5/14/2017 at 7:12 PM, titanic2187 said: the dangal is almost the zootopia 2.0!!! while GOTG2 was like IPMan 3 Except that Ip Man 3 was killed by Bluray release in HK in is 2nd weekend of its China release... People were stumbling onto the full HD movie while searching for reviews online.. Chinese distributor killed Ip Man 3 by delaying almost 4months later than in other regions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbingchan Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 On 2017/5/14 at 1:30 AM, ThomasNicole said: I don't call movies who made $ 70 - 100m a flop just because some others break out and made $ 150 - 200m. They will all out of Top20 this year.There is no chance hitting Top10.Some may out of Top30.Considering their rank dom and ww,It's disappointed.It's normal.culture difference.Caribbean is the Last chance to break out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Dangal Sunday is over 95M, Maoyan is not accurate because of system bugs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 MON estimates with service chargesDangal - 35.5m / 459.3mGuardians of the Galaxy 2 - 12.2m / 569.8mKing Arthur - 4.3m / 41mDealer Healer - 3.2m / 31.1mPower Rangers - 1.6m / 26m 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainiac5 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Olive said: MON estimates with service chargesDangal - 35.5m / 459.3mGuardians of the Galaxy 2 - 12.2m / 569.8mKing Arthur - 4.3m / 41mDealer Healer - 3.2m / 31.1mPower Rangers - 1.6m / 26m What is GOTGv2 heading for in China ?? 95mil or 100mil? Edited May 15, 2017 by Brainiac5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravi Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 @Olive What would be next weekend collection and LT for dangal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ravi said: @Olive What would be next weekend collection and LT for dangal? That would be hard to predict. Its holding great and should have 15%+ showtimes I think. So sub 40% drop is possible. I think all the openers are bombing again though Life looks like doing better than PR and Arthur. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...