TigerPaw Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Officially 1.9bn yuan and passed Venom to be the highest grossing solo Superhero movie in China! 4 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 'Long Day's Journey Into Night' be like. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, fmpro said: Maoyan is now predicting 2B+ finish for Aqua It will get close to 300 mill no doubt Maoyan at 2033m now. It needs 2067m to get to $300m Its going to make 13m+ tomorrow. Just a 20% bump this Friday and nothing big happening next Friday will get it to $300m or a 40% bump this Friday will do it. Aq had the best holds/bumps and PTA for the long weekend. 9.4 rating proves fierce Aq XR 6.89 Vm XR 6.94 IW XR 6.35 Aq vs Aq vs Day Yn DoD WoW Tot $Tot Yn DoD WoW Tot $Tot Yn DoD WoW Tot $Tot Vm IW Fri 157 166 24 223 239 34 387 447 70 -73 -281 Sat 266 69.6% 432 63 303 35.9% 542 78 493 27.5% 940 148 -111 -509 Sun 220 -17.0% 652 95 224 -26.1% 766 110 332 -32.8% 1272 200 -114 -620 Mon 89 -59.5% 741 108 90 -59.8% 856 123 109 -67.1% 1381 217 -115 -639 Tues 74 -17.5% 815 119 80 -11.1% 936 135 81 -25.7% 1462 230 -121 -647 Wed 62 -15.9% 877 128 69 -13.8% 1005 145 65 -20.0% 1526 240 -128 -650 Thur 55 -11.5% 931 136 62 -10.1% 1067 154 53 -19.0% 1579 249 -136 -647 Fri 86 57.5% -44.9% 1018 148 85 37.1% -61.9% 1152 166 72 36.4% -81.5% 1650 260 -134 -633 Sat 164 90.4% -38.1% 1182 172 162 90.6% -46.5% 1314 189 142 98.2% -71.2% 1792 282 -132 -610 Sun 124 -24.5% -43.7% 1306 190 109 -32.7% -51.3% 1423 205 132 -7.0% -60.2% 1924 303 -117 -618 Mon 41.5 -66.5% -53.5% 1348 196 35.6 -67.3% -60.4% 1459 210 31.6 -76.1% -71.0% 1956 308 -111 -608 Tue 36.5 -12.0% -50.4% 1384 200.9 30.5 -14.3% -61.9% 1489 215 25.2 -20.3% -68.9% 1981 312 -105 -597 Wed 33 -9.6% -46.7% 1417 205.7 26.6 -12.8% -61.4% 1516 218 21.1 -16.3% -67.4% 2002 315 -99 -585 Thu 30 -9.1% -45.3% 1447 210.0 23.7 -10.9% -61.8% 1539 222 18.6 -11.8% -64.6% 2021 318 -92 -574 Fri 33.4 11.3% -61.3% 1480 215 31.1 31.2% -63.4% 1571 226 23.1 24.2% -67.7% 2044 322 -90 -564 Sat 70.2 110.2% -57.3% 1551 225 61.5 97.7% -62.0% 1632 235 50.8 119.9% -64.2% 2095 330 -81 -544 Sun 58 -17.4% -53.2% 1609 233 43.2 -29.8% -60.4% 1675 241 39.9 -21.5% -69.8% 2135 336 -67 -526 Xeve 36.1 -37.8% -13.0% 1645 239 14.4 -66.7% -59.6% 1690 243 12.0 -69.9% -62.0% 2147 338 -45 -502 Xday 35.7 -1.1% -2.2% 1680 244 13.0 -9.7% -57.4% 1703 245 11.1 -7.5% -56.0% 2158 340 -22 -477 Wed 19.5 -45.4% -40.9% 1700 247 12.0 -7.7% -54.9% 1715 247 10.5 -5.9% -50.5% 2168 341 -15 -468 Thu 17.5 -10.3% -41.7% 1717 249 11.3 -5.8% -52.3% 1726 249 12.1 15.8% -34.9% 2180 343 -8 -463 Fri 16.42 -6.2% -50.8% 1734 252 18.1 60.2% -41.8% 1744 251 35.2 190.9% 52.4% 2215 349 -10 -482 Sat 18.75 14.2% -73.3% 1753 254 40.0 121.0% -35.0% 1784 257 31.6 -10.2% -37.8% 2247 354 -31 -494 Sun 43.4 131.5% -25.2% 1796 261 27.5 -31.3% -36.3% 1812 261 23.2 -26.6% -41.9% 2270 358 -16 -474 NYE 53.2 22.6% 47.4% 1849 268 9.3 -66.2% -35.4% 1821 262 7.8 -66.4% -35.0% 2278 359 28 -429 NYD 50.9 -4.3% 42.6% 1900 276 8.2 -11.8% -36.9% 1829 264 8.5 9.0% -23.4% 2287 360 71 -386 Wed 13 -74.5% -33.3% 1913 278 7.8 -4.9% -35.0% 1837 265 8.9 4.1% -15.3% 2295 361 76 -382 Thu 11.7 -10.0% -33.1% 1925 279 7.3 -6.4% -35.4% 1844 266 7.8 -11.9% -35.5% 2303 363 81 -378 BB od 14 19.7% -14.7% 1939 281 2.1 -71.2% -88.4% 1846 266 8.5 9.5% -75.7% 2312 364 93 -373 Sat 29 107.1% 54.7% 1968 286 4.7 123.8% -88.3% 1851 267 18.4 115.5% -41.8% 2330 367 117 -362 Sun 23 -20.7% -47.0% 1991 289 3.7 -21.3% -86.5% 1855 267 15.5 -15.8% -33.2% 2346 369 136 -355 2067 300.0 1870 269.5 2390 376 197 -323 Edited January 1, 2019 by POTUS 5 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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terrestrial Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Gavin Feng @gavinfeng97 5m5 minutes ago More China Box Office Long Day's Journey Into Night Dec.31 - $38.01M (opening) Jan.1 - $1.64M (-96%) Total - $40.08M 3.4/10 score on Maoyan ticket site(lowest for any film over $15M total) 6.8/10 score on Chinese Douban film site Just like what Mother! did #LongDaysJourneyIntoNight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevil19 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 minute ago, terrestrial said: Gavin Feng @gavinfeng97 5m5 minutes ago More China Box Office Long Day's Journey Into Night Dec.31 - $38.01M (opening) Jan.1 - $1.64M (-96%) Total - $40.08M 3.4/10 score on Maoyan ticket site(lowest for any film over $15M total) 6.8/10 score on Chinese Douban film site Just like what Mother! did #LongDaysJourneyIntoNight HAHAHA. Wow. That is just insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, terrestrial said: Gavin Feng @gavinfeng97 5m5 minutes ago More China Box Office Long Day's Journey Into Night Dec.31 - $38.01M (opening) Jan.1 - $1.64M (-96%) Total - $40.08M 3.4/10 score on Maoyan ticket site(lowest for any film over $15M total) 6.8/10 score on Chinese Douban film site Just like what Mother! did #LongDaysJourneyIntoNight I find it even crazier that Mother! released in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: I find it even crazier that Mother! released in China. Maoyan 3.4= CS F(maybe XYZ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnack Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 4 hours ago, stephanos13 said: How much do they usually get from other markets and the US? Can vary a bit on the distributor-product, famously Disney ask and get quite the nice deal for their big franchise and I imagine change over time so take this with a grain of salt. According to the leaked Harry potter distribution accounts: https://deadline.com/2010/07/studio-shame-even-harry-potter-pic-loses-money-because-of-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting-51886/ Rental for WB were of 162.122m domestic, 298.06m intl That Potter movie according to mojo made: Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $292,004,738 31.1% + Foreign: $647,881,191 68.9% = Worldwide: $939,885,929 That a 55.5% domestic retention rate and 46% international retention rate, now that was in 2007 with what was one of the biggest franchise in many market. In the 2014 leaked Sony studio documentations they have figure of expected retention rate for some title and for their hole annual slate average and it looked like this: Market Retention rate Profit margin Japan 47% 15% South Korea 47% 19% Germany 44% 22% Spain 44% 13% Belgium 43% 26% Switzerland 42% 29% Russia 42% 22% Austria 42% 27% Italy 41% 11% Australia 41% 22% Brazil 40% 13% Netherlands 40% 28% UK 40% 23% France 39% 19% Average 42% 21% Mexico 37% 13% China 25% 21% Japan-SK being quite similar to domestic for them, very high theatrical release cost big after theatrical ancillary markets, China being the other extreme almost no theatrical release cost, almost pure profit but less after market revenues relative to the box office than elsewhere, but still a nice deal considering the size, absence of risk and return margin. The rules of thumb of around 40% make sense for the title with a regular box office distribution I think, it is rare for a studio to distribute themselve in 100% of the market too., maybe that Disney with Fox will be able to do it In the US it tended to be around 53% retention rate, much lower on the Sony Classic type of stuff that can go around 35%. 8 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Told you @Barnack know his shit @stephanos13 😂 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 End of the day, profit margin matters more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 49 minutes ago, firedeep said: End of the day, profit margin matters more. Yes but (if you mean by ranking market importance-revenues), it can be misleading. The domestic market can tend to have a very slim one, even had a negative margin some year's and it is still by far the most important for american studios. That profit margin is a bit of a misleading one, it is (studio share of the box office - theatrical window marketing - prints, shipping, special taxes and other cost of the sorts) / Gross box office It consider the marketing spent before and went the movie is playing as a pure theatrical expense in the theatrical margin, but that theatrical run and all is marketing-attention tend to historically be the best marketing possible for the next windows as well (i.e. movie that had a theatrical release tend to have a much better dvd, merchandising if any and tv performances than the direct to video one and not just for quality reason) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 18 hours ago, Barnack said: Can vary a bit on the distributor-product, famously Disney ask and get quite the nice deal for their big franchise and I imagine change over time so take this with a grain of salt. According to the leaked Harry potter distribution accounts: https://deadline.com/2010/07/studio-shame-even-harry-potter-pic-loses-money-because-of-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting-51886/ Rental for WB were of 162.122m domestic, 298.06m intl That Potter movie according to mojo made: Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $292,004,738 31.1% + Foreign: $647,881,191 68.9% = Worldwide: $939,885,929 That a 55.5% domestic retention rate and 46% international retention rate, now that was in 2007 with what was one of the biggest franchise in many market. In the 2014 leaked Sony studio documentations they have figure of expected retention rate for some title and for their hole annual slate average and it looked like this: Market Retention rate Profit margin Japan 47% 15% South Korea 47% 19% Germany 44% 22% Spain 44% 13% Belgium 43% 26% Switzerland 42% 29% Russia 42% 22% Austria 42% 27% Italy 41% 11% Australia 41% 22% Brazil 40% 13% Netherlands 40% 28% UK 40% 23% France 39% 19% Average 42% 21% Mexico 37% 13% China 25% 21% Japan-SK being quite similar to domestic for them, very high theatrical release cost big after theatrical ancillary markets, China being the other extreme almost no theatrical release cost, almost pure profit but less after market revenues relative to the box office than elsewhere, but still a nice deal considering the size, absence of risk and return margin. The rules of thumb of around 40% make sense for the title with a regular box office distribution I think, it is rare for a studio to distribute themselve in 100% of the market too., maybe that Disney with Fox will be able to do it In the US it tended to be around 53% retention rate, much lower on the Sony Classic type of stuff that can go around 35%. The word is that Disney demanded 60 to 65% shares from cinema owners for TLJ and IW in the US. I wonder how much they could extract from theater owners for Endgame, The Lion King, and Avatar 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium George Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, UserHN said: The word is that Disney demanded 60 to 65% shares from cinema owners for TLJ and IW in the US. I wonder how much they could extract from theater owners for Endgame, The Lion King, and Avatar 2. 60% for every film, not just TLJ amd IW. With TLJ it was 65%>. Edited January 2, 2019 by Premium George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyamama Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 woah slow B.O today....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevil19 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, UserHN said: The word is that Disney demanded 60 to 65% shares from cinema owners for TLJ and IW in the US. I wonder how much they could extract from theater owners for Endgame, The Lion King, and Avatar 2. Post Fox takeover, 65% could become the norm, given the market-share, with higher spikes for their huge movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reddevil19 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 If it doesn't develop legs, it could mean much worse deals moving forward - not to mention it could mean Paramount panic and change course with the franchise again, going back to Bayhem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakiyyah6 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Releasing Bumblebee only a year after The Last Knight was a mistake. I've said it before and I'll say it again they should have waited five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...