Jonwo Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Barnack said: Probably when the series started to fall down without is cast, with Tokyo drift, turning the situation into we need those without contract actor back or we stop that franchise. He became a producer on Fast And Furious and the franchise jumped back to 130%, augmenting even more is power for the next one, what the studio could say to him for the next movie ? It must be common for stars of a franchise that want power to acquire it, if at one point their presence were necessary for the movie to happen and if the franchise use "weak" director, that accept to do movies with an actor/producer/studio that have final cut over them. Apparently he call the highest studio execs all the time, but it still does sound far from Cruise power on Mission Impossible. Vin doesn't really have much else apart from maybe another xXx film and voicing Groot. Everything else he does apart from those and Fast has bombed. Even though Tom Cruise is Mission Impossible, I think Paramount were ready to replace him at one point but luckily Ghost Protocol was hugely successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jonwo said: Vin doesn't really have much else apart from maybe another xXx film and voicing Groot. Everything else he does apart from those and Fast has bombed. I imagine that why there is conflict, he make lot of pressure and he has power, but not total control like Cruise (hard to imagine Cruise would ever work on a MI movie with an actor he has feud with and stuff like that or have scene filmed without him having writing them or at least approved). Quote Even though Tom Cruise is Mission Impossible, I think Paramount were ready to replace him at one point but luckily Ghost Protocol was hugely successful. They probably negociated hard a bit after MI 3 apparently lost money, with Tom Cruise rumored to still have made a giant 65 million paycheck out of it, with how much Protocol did and with how much The Bourne Legacy declined without Damon they are probably really happy to have kept him. Edited April 13, 2017 by Barnack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, filmlover said: How in the hell did Vin Diesel end up absorbing so much creative power? Sympathy from when Walker died (given the reports that he hated going to the set of Furious 7 every day following his death)? He's the producer. He can make it however he wants for Better or worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepper83 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Absolutely ridiculous movie ...and I loved every single second of it. Jason Statham stole the whole movie. Charlize was a good villain. Not as good as Fast Five, but way better than the last two. 3,5/5 I miss Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, filmlover said: Gotta love this out of nowhere love for Tokyo Drift when it's basically been the completely forgotten, "let's pretty much sweep this under a rug" entry in the entire series this whole time. Always remember that Pink and I have been on this train for years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Tokyo Drift is the franchise's DTV film that was released theatrically. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jonwo said: Tokyo Drift is the franchise's DTV film that was released theatrically. Alwayd wondered what the budget for that film was but can't find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, John Marston said: Alwayd wondered what the budget for that film was but can't find it $85m which is insane considering it had none of the original cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) In an ideal universe, these movies would be led by The Rock and basically consist of the gang joking around with minimal mind-numbing action sequences. All of that Vin TooCoolforSchool Diesel free. Edited April 13, 2017 by Goffe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 48 minutes ago, Jonwo said: $85m which is insane considering it had none of the original cast. What's funny in retrospect is how after Tokyo Drift, the fourth one brought back the original's cast in a last ditch effort to save both the series and the acting careers of the stars (who were on their way to spending the rest of their careers in obscurity). And it paid off, financially at least! Just goes to show that the series later success needs to be entirely attributed to luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, filmlover said: What's funny in retrospect is how after Tokyo Drift, the fourth one brought back the original's cast in a last ditch effort to save both the series and the acting careers of the stars (who were on their way to spending the rest of their careers in obscurity). And it paid off, financially at least! Just goes to show that the series later success needs to be entirely attributed to luck. Universal were close to making the series DTV until they convinced Vin to reprise the role of Dom and giving him more creative control. The fourth film's $70m OW was a huge surprise, can't imagine anyone thought it was do even half of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durden Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 James Gunn has a bigger ego than Vin Diesel and The Rock combined. Vin Diesel should use that producer power of his for a Riddick sequel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Silly Hot take: Han was probably the most well-developed character in this franchise and I actually miss him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Arlborn said: Silly Hot take: Han was probably the most well-developed character in this franchise and I actually miss him. This isn't that uncommon of a take. Han is the realest. Han's talk in Tokyo Drift about making choices and not looking back is the best after Fast and Furious 6. Edited April 14, 2017 by MrPink 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Chinese OD already $36m including pre-sale before 10:00 am FRI. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: Chinese OD already $36m including pre-sale before 10:00 am FRI. That is 247m yuan. Maoyan numbers are way lower. Does that include midnights as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Movie is fun, and ridiculous. One plot/character choice though really didn't sit well with me 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, 4815162342 said: One plot/character choice though really didn't sit well with me Curious which one you thought it was, put it in spoiler tags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: That is 247m yuan. Maoyan numbers are way lower. Does that include midnights as well? include midnights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...