Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[XXR & Friends]

17 minutes ago, Maggie said:

This i agree with. 800M is the floor.

 

11 minutes ago, Menor Reborn said:

What's the ceiling then?

 

I'll take 50% of Avatar admissions as the floor and equal admissions as the ceiling. Based on current ticket prices (assuming much higher than typical 3D/2D split but less than A1), that translate to $500M - $1B. 

 

Personally I'm going with about 65-70% of A1 admissions. 

[Menor the Destroyer]

2 minutes ago, Babylon XXR said:

 

 

I'll take 50% of Avatar admissions as the floor and equal admissions as the ceiling. Based on current ticket prices (assuming much higher than typical 3D/2D split but less than A1), that translate to $500M - $1B. 

 

Personally I'm going with about 65-70% of A1 admissions. 

Huh, we're in exact agreement on floor and ceiling. 

[XXR & Friends]

14 minutes ago, Menor Reborn said:

Huh, we're in exact agreement on floor and ceiling. 

 

[kayumanggi]

On 8/30/2022 at 3:18 AM, TheDude391 said:

 

Footage screened in Beijing, tweet comes from a Chinese government official.

 

This is an interesting development. The numbers China will give to this film.

[charlie Jatinder]

7 hours ago, Babylon XXR said:

@charlie Jatinder Do we have an approximation of the 3D/2D split for Avatar? I'm curious how many people actually saw it in 3D vs 2D.

 

FTR, I will not be seeing A2 in 3D unless they figure out glasses-less tech in the next 90 days 🤣

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Nearly 81 percent of Avatar's gross is from 3D presentations. Normal 3D accounts for over 64 percent of the gross, while IMAX 3D accounts for more than 16 percent. That leaves the 2D theaters with an over 19 percent share of the gross.

 

This was at $600M. I expect it to be around 85% for final.

 

I also think Avatar 2 will be well over 50%, probably 70% or so boosted heavily by IMAX 3D and other PLF 3Ds.

 

$15 ATP for Avatar 2 won't surprise me.

[XXR & Friends]

42 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

 

This was at $600M. I expect it to be around 85% for final.

 

I also think Avatar 2 will be well over 50%, probably 70% or so boosted heavily by IMAX 3D and other PLF 3Ds.

 

$15 ATP for Avatar 2 won't surprise me.

 

 

It wouldn't surprise me either. From there, it would "only" need about 50M admissions (-30%) to surpass the first run of the original.

Edited September 17, 2022 by Babylon XXR

[Ryan Reynolds]

i expect a gross of 500m-900m domestic like recent SW saga films

[Doffy]

11 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

i expect a gross of 500m-900m domestic like recent SW saga films

Its beating TFA now and movie will definitely get A+ cinemascore and also 3b ww is also not out of the question.

[Ryan Reynolds]

9 minutes ago, Doffy said:

Its beating TFA now and movie will definitely get A+ cinemascore and also 3b ww is also not out of the question.

1 is 100% false, 2 is likely false, if 1 is actually true why would 3b be a question

[Doffy]

1 hour ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

1 is 100% false, 2 is likely false, if 1 is actually true why would 3b be a question

900dom +500m china+ 1.4 rest os = 2.8b ww

[Potiki]

1 minute ago, Doffy said:

900dom +500m china+ 1.4 rest os = 2.8b ww

I could be very very wrong but I feel like 900m China, 500m Domestic would be more likely than the inverse. 

[stephanos13]

This movie has to be a monumental failure for it not be a box office juggernaut.

 

For example my sister and my mother that they go to the cinema maybe once a year at most, they said they are going for sure to watch the new Avatar.

[IronJimbo]

1 hour ago, stephanos13 said:

This movie has to be a monumental failure for it not be a box office juggernaut.

 

For example my sister and my mother that they go to the cinema maybe once a year at most, they said they are going for sure to watch the new Avatar.

 

and the chances of that are less than zero for me.

For others, you just have to look at Jim's track history as well as reactions to the 13 minutes of footage. Also watch the teaser trailer.

[XXR & Friends]

This is in reference to Avatar and not A2 but as the de facto Avatar thread....

 

 

[Potiki]

1 minute ago, Babylon XXR said:

This is in reference to Avatar and not A2 but as the de facto Avatar thread....

 

 

It is crazy to me that after Titanic and selling the domestic rights to Paramount, they didn't learn their mistake and almost let Cameron shop Avatar to another studio (Disney was the forerunner funnily enough if I remember correctly) only for those 2 films to be the highest grossing films of their time. 

 

Luckily and it seems like everyone is just staying out of the way and letting Cameron do what he wants here in NZ for the sequels. 

[Gavin Feng]

Part of the reason I think is Cameron is not a typical Hollywood guy. The town would rather give money and creative right to a shitty creator they're familiar with than trust someone they don't know much that can actually make good stuff.

[interiorgatordecorator]

54 minutes ago, Babylon XXR said:

This is in reference to Avatar and not A2 but as the de facto Avatar thread....

 

 

 

“Avatar” had a prominent message about taking care of the environment and the resources it has provided. In the years since its release, do you feel like that message has been heeded?

 

 

I’m not going to feel guilty because my movie didn’t save the world. I certainly wasn’t the only voice back then, and I’m certainly not the only voice now, telling people that they have to change. But people don’t want to change. We love to burn energy. We love to eat our meat and dairy. Asking people to fundamentally change their behavior patterns, it’s like asking them to change their religion. We’re seeing this ongoing series of greater and greater manifestations of the consequences, like with these heat waves in China and North America and Europe, the flooding in Pakistan, which is horrific. And eventually we will change or we’ll die out. “Avatar” is not trying to tell you what to do specifically. It’s not telling you, Go vote for so-and-so, buy a Prius, put down the cheeseburger. It’s just reminding us of what we’re losing. And it puts us back in touch with that childlike state of wonder about the natural world. As long as that beauty still resonates within us, there’s hope.

 

 

 

 

Think theres no reason to keep up the concern-trolling about avatar being too political for contemporary audiences after that

[Ozymandias]

Does James Cameron include fish when he says meat or is he mostly talking red meat?  I know he loves the ocean and all its inhabitants but some of those critters are mighty tasty.  You can have my sushi when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. 

[Gavin Feng]

The ikran part FOX executives questioned is something Cameron's kept mentioning. He talked that in Masterclass. And he prove that these scenes are why a story could be so good and let people immerse in a different world.

[Alexdube]

Cameron talks about the re-release:

 

 

No hints of new trailer or scenes from A2, but he mentions they added a small thing at the end to tie it to the sequel